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Woman attacked by couple who order her to "delete" video she took of them assaulting man on Queens subway

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A 26-year-old woman tried to surreptitiously video an assault on the New York City subway system but ended up becoming a victim after the attackers caught her filming.

The punch-up happened on Monday in the middle of the day, just after 1pm in Long Island City, Queens when a straphanger in a red t-shirt could be seen assaulting another passenger.

The man could be seen getting into an argument with a 20-year-old male rider in which he was punched leaving him with a swollen left eye and cuts on his face.

It was at this point the woman, called Victoria, who was sitting at the other end of the train car took out her cellphone and began recording on the southbound 7 train.

'He was just being polite, nothing rude about him,' she said of the man who was attacked to the Daily News. 'He was harmless.'

The man took out his phone to make a call whereupon the assailant accused him of calling the police. He punched him and knocked the phone to the floor.

The man began moving up the train car threatening shocked passengers while yelling about the phone.

'F*** that s***,' he yelled. 'Go buy a new one, n****.'

'Who else got issues on here? Who else got issues on here?' he yelled while swearing.

But the man behind the initial attack was accompanied by a woman in a black and white striped outfit who also dared riders to challenge them.

'I dare somebody,' the accomplice said before suddenly noticing the woman covertly filming.

'You got an issue, why are you recording? Why you recording?' she shouted. 'Delete it! delete it!' she demands.

The video then suddenly shakes and abruptly cuts off.

'I really just wanted their faces on camera,' Victoria said. 'It's not like I had the phone out up in the air... it was barely pointing at them. I was trying to be discrete.'

The pair then suddenly attacked her.

'She punched me, then the man turned and they both started hitting me,' she said.

'You get punched in the face that many times, you just don't really know what's going on around you, I just couldn't believe it was happening,' she said.

'I have a black eye, a swollen lip, and I had a lot of neck pain for the days afterwards,' Victoria told the News. 'My face was pretty swollen, and I had some scratches on my arms, and bruises on my arms and legs.'

The two suspects got off the train at Queensboro Plaza.

The footage Victoria captured was posted on Twitter this week by her brother, identified as Peter.

'Couple attacked 2 New Yorkers 7/27/20. One was my 26 year old sister who was badly beaten and bruised. Please spread the word and bring them to justice.'

Nevertheless, Victoria says she would still film people if something similar happened again.

'I'd probably be smarter about it next time, maybe not leave it running too long, but I think I would because it's just the right thing to do,' she said.
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No dummy the smarter thing to do would have been to call the police.
 
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I think that the smartphone with a built-in camera has turned out to be an unexpected and fascinating agent for social change (and improvement). For pretty much my entire lifetime, police have been free to rampage whoever they wanted, plant drugs, and so on, because their word would be believed over all others in front of a judge. But now they at least cannot do this in front of a crowd any more, and they don't necessarily know when someone might be peeping out from behind a window curtain somewhere. Plus, as long as the body cams stay on (AS LONG AS), they may not be able to get away with as much when out of public sight.

What if nobody had recorded the whole George Floyd incident for example. Yes that cop was murderous to the point of being an idiot, but still. Those fuckers could have lied about the duration of what they did if the camera had not been rolling.

Also see this, it's not a cell phone camera but a store owner's camera system (the store owner was black, so in that sense, maybe draws police danger a bit like a magnet):

 
Blown away by the vitriol aimed the victims way. People are not only blaming the victim, but saying she should NOT have captured evidence of this crime?

Ive never ridden the subway before, but something tells me when you call the cops they don't automatially teleport into the fucking tunnel. There would be no immediate help from that. It's also VERY likely and possible that the couple would be able to escape the train at its stop and run off before cops could respond. Subways can be chaotic, hectic, crowded places.

Also, you fucking idiots not read the part about how these shitstains were actively seeking out anyone who might potentially be calling the police? That's what the first dude got attacked over apparently. So you think it'd be a BETTER idea for the victim to have dialed 9-11 and started talking to a fucking dispatcher right there in front of these people, instead of attempting to discreetly get some footage of them so they could later be ID'd and brought to justice?

Shocking level of stupidity and disrespectful, shameful victim blaming occurring here.

Im surprised subway trains dont have camera/surveillance systems. Very bizarre given how much crime i hear happens on em.
 
JackBurton said:
Blown away by the vitriol aimed the victims way. People are not only blaming the victim, but saying she should NOT have captured evidence of this crime?

Ive never ridden the subway before, but something tells me when you call the cops they don't automatially teleport into the fucking tunnel. There would be no immediate help from that. It's also VERY likely and possible that the couple would be able to escape the train at its stop and run off before cops could respond. Subways can be chaotic, hectic, crowded places.

Also, you fucking idiots not read the part about how these shitstains were actively seeking out anyone who might potentially be calling the police? That's what the first dude got attacked over apparently. So you think it'd be a BETTER idea for the victim to have dialed 9-11 and started talking to a fucking dispatcher right there in front of these people, instead of attempting to discreetly get some footage of them so they could later be ID'd and brought to justice?

Shocking level of stupidity and disrespectful, shameful victim blaming occurring here.

Im surprised subway trains dont have camera/surveillance systems. Very bizarre given how much crime i hear happens on em.
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Yeah, pretty obvious you haven’t ridden a subway. There are some type of security or cops at every stop (at least there were the last time I was in NY). Had she contacted the cops, they could’ve cut them off wherever they got off, unless of course they no longer do that. And the lack of cameras is probably a big contributor to why there is so much crime.
 
caitierig said:
Yeah, pretty obvious you haven’t ridden a subway. There are some type of security or cops at every stop (at least there were the last time I was in NY). Had she contacted the cops, they could’ve cut them off wherever they got off, unless of course they no longer do that. And the lack of cameras is probably a big contributor to why there is so much crime.
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Still leaves her on the train making a call which would be near impossible to hide and would guarantee she becomes a victim too.

Learn to use your fucking head.
 
SickSadWorld said:
@JackBurton
I think anyone recording other people doing anything is at risk for lawsuits nowadays. Were these people in the wrong for their behavior (of course) but because of our imploding society, especially the last few months, ANYONE is at risk of being charged with hate crimes.
I also pointed to the fact that careful editing can make situations appear differently then they actually are.
It's really dumb that the subways don't have cameras or security guards, given the variety of passengers who use them.

You make a valid point.

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Even if you are a meanie!
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So... Your reasoning against recording incidents is that you could be charged with a hate crime due to edited footage?

I'm pretty confident that there is no footage anywhere that could be edited to make it look like I was committing a hate crime. Or any crime for that matter.

Anyone who's concerned about that probably needs to take a good hard look at how they conduct themselves in public.

I agree there needs to be cameras on every subway car. I can't believe there aren't yet.

And I think this lady did the right thing. You can't get cell reception on the subway, anyway!
 
caitierig said:
They have a text crime line. Learn to use your fucking reading comprehension skills.
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And we know this woman was aware of it?

Not to mention, that too would be more visible than simply touching "record" and angling the cellphone to capture footage of the scumbags.

I honestly dont know at this point if you're just actively trolling or you are simply THIS fucking stupid.
 
JackBurton said:
And we know this woman was aware of it?

Not to mention, that too would be more visible than simply touching "record" and angling the cellphone to capture footage of the scumbags.

I honestly dont know at this point if you're just actively trolling or you are simply THIS fucking stupid.
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I have just dedicated my life to making you feel like you’re smarter than everyone else and can win a debate. Now why don’t you go sit on a subway track and wait for a crime to happen so you can video it since you are so in favor of it.
 
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