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I'm with @cubby on this one. Big offenses you get the no hijab treatment. The small stuff I don't care either way. If you don't want to have to remove your hijab for a mugshot, don't commit big crimes. It's in your hands completely...
I'm totally with you on the modesty aspect. Which is why I generally don't do things that will get me arrested. I get uncomfortable if my Mom sees me in just a bra and panties, and I've known her for over 53 years now! But I do have to say that I find it odd that the rules have to change to accommodate what is essentially a criminal. But then you get the whole "innocent unless proven guilty" thing too. It's a mess. Part of me says just do what is "legal" where you live (on the part of police). Because they might make you take it off here, but what about the places where they make you put one on to take your mugshot? It's very complicated and boils down to keep your stuff legal and you won't have to worry about this crap!
I am down for stripping someone down to their birthday suit if they intentionally hurt someone but this was from a traffic ticket gone warrant. You are so right. It IS complicated. I totally agree.
I'd also be uncomfortable, were my mother to see me in bra and panties, for at least two reasons which come immediately to mind:
I was really disappointed to read that sentence.
As I am sure all your sexual partners have seen private parts of yourself. What's your point? She wears hijab as part of her identity so taking it off would make her more unrecognizable. If a nun were arrested and booked would it be okay to have her remove her habit? Or a chemotherapy patient, should they remove their wig? After all, the wig is not part of their person.
I didn't read that she wasn't born and raised here in America. And it says she was a citizen so she lives in America Home of the Free. *insert tough eagle pic I totally get what you mean though. When in Rome.... I doubt they had ill intent either in the beginning but I imagine she was very distressed at the thought. Someone should have done the right thing and said something like "Heyyy, this might cost us some money later. Why don't we go ask boss if we should leave it on. She's crying and talking about God and stuff."
Fair points. But that kind of makes my point a little bit stronger. If she's an American, then she KNEW the possibility existed. I'm not coming down on one side or the other regarding the mugshot, both sides have a point IMO. A hijab is a unique article of clothing. It hides a lot that can change the appearance of a person if they decided freedom is more important than religious adherence. It hides completely a woman's hairline for instance. It hides things like moles, ears, how you look if your hair is up or down, which might sound drastic, but if I wear a ponytail at the nape of my neck I look 100% different than I do if I wear my normal cheerleader type high pony. Some people like to assert that if anything is done, then it's RAYSIS, or intending to harm, when the reality is as far from their bullshit suppositions as we currently are from the lunar surface. I see both sides very clearly. I happen to fall on the side that says sometimes prudence is required and that might make people uncomfortable....
You definitely meant well.
When did this place become solely about YOU? The place was founded in irreverence and mocking of the criminally stupid. It's YOUR feelings and emotive screeds all over the damn place that has made it intolerable. OP is allowed to have her own opinions on the matter. Get over yourself, 'K?
Does she have 8 kids?
Does it matter? Nuns can have entire lives of marriage and children before taking their vows. Who care how many children she has if she makes sure they cared for. Are you mad at this woman because she's had a lot of kids? Are you mad at her that she's had a lot of sex? For what it's worth Islam is very pro-sex within marriage.
Doesn't bother me one way or another. Why can someone ask a what if question and I can't?
Alright, let's do this mental exercise. Say it was a Nun that had a former life of eight kids, multiple husbands and divorced multiple times. She decides to turn a new leaf and become Catholic and decides to dedicate her life to the Church. She's driving the church van and gets pulled over and realzies her license is suspended. Is removing her habit necessary for the booking photo? Or let's say it a chemo patient with a wig. Said person has a lot of kids, lots of sexual partners and whatever arbitrary thing that makes it "ok" to expose her. Should they removed the wig? Arguably it's more of a disguise.
I think the nun got the most exercise in this scenario. The garments end up being a sweat band, but that doesn't matter and they shouldn't have to remove them.
I'm one of those "proven racists." Each time, I only clapped back after you said something personally offensive to me. Shall I publish our private conversations? I think you expect too much from a basically free site. Please, do find where I was rude without provocation. Now, while the opinion of you is meaningless to me, you misjudging my expensive doc or making fun of my miscarriage matters. You knew damn well it would. Ohhhh, the unfairness. Please, do run over to the black forums and complain, that is borderline sexual satisfaction to me.
“Nun” she admits to.
So do I! The P.C. policing around here is toxic. And boring.
