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Craygor

Norse American
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"... complained in particular of living in a country of disbelievers"

Paris -- A knife attack which resulted in two dead and five wounded Saturday morning in the town of Romans-sur-Isere, an hour drive South of Lyon, is being treated as a terrorist attack by French authorities. Two of the victims are in critical condition.

The 33-year-old assailant stabbed seven people in shops and streets in downtown Romans-sur-Isere shortly before being arrested, police told ABC News.

The assailant, of Sudanese nationality, was arrested "while he was kneeling on a sidewalk praying in the Arabic language."



In a press release, the Counterterrorism Prosecutor's office revealed that "handwritten documents with religious overtones in which the author of the lines complained in particular of living in a country of disbelievers" were found duringa search carried out at the suspect's home.

The alleged perpetrator was taken into custody on charges of assassination and attempted assassination in connection with a terrorist enterprise and criminal terrorist association. An acquaintance of the suspect's was also placed in police custody.

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Prosecutors said the suspect was a Sudanese refugee in his 30s who lived in the town. Two other people have also been arrested, police said.

So a person who escapes from their religious piece of shit country, and goes to another country that has welcomed them in and given them peace & security, but since the new country is not the same fucked up religion that it makes him so unthankful, and so ungrateful, that he wants to kill them. All because they don't believe in the same delusion of his particular invisible sky-daddy.
 
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Welcome to the planet fake equality
What i mean is we are destroying society in this bullshit movement to create so called unity from the global spread of everything awful. Like socialism!
Yes it's good to recognize and respect each others differences but if you ask me, this victim hierarchy doesn't unite us it only makes us islands unto ourselves where only our specific history, opinion, lineage and or life circumstance is to be respected. Yet we can't give each other the same courtesy we demand.
I heard years ago something biblical to the effect of the end being ushered in by the 'guise of love' and i couldn't even imagine how that would even be possible, love bringing destruction. Then I'll be damned if i haven't seen it all unfold for myself right in front of my fucking face.
 
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The french govt does do a LOT of things to intentionally and unfairly target people who practice the Islamic faith. It really can't be denied. Read up on it sometime or watch some docs on the subject. It's kinda shocking the preferential treatment given to jewish people especially, compared to muslims. There's a lot of unnecessary shit they force on muslims to needlessly control how they practice their religion and penalize them for a slew of shit.

That said, it of course is nothing significant enough to warrant rebellion or terrorism or anything along those lines. ANd it of course is still a vastly superior country to completely uncivilized places like Sudan.

This dude no doubt has alwasy entertained extremist ideals and desired to slaughter Westeners. No doubt one of the reasons he wanted to go to country like France to begin with.

All this said, suppose my point is, France doesn't do itself any favors, pretty much BEGGING for trouble from extremists.
 
Welcome to the planet fake equality
What i mean is we are destroying society in this bullshit movement to create so called unity from the global spread of everything awful. Like socialism!
Yes it's good to recognize and respect each others differences but if you ask me, this victim hierarchy doesn't unite us it only makes us islands unto ourselves where only our specific history, opinion, lineage and or life circumstance is to be respected. Yet we can't give each other the same courtesy we demand.
I heard years ago something biblical to the effect of the end being ushered in by the 'guise of love' and i couldn't even imagine how that would even be possible, love bringing destruction. Then I'll be damned if i haven't seen it all unfold for myself right in front of my fucking face.
Welcome to the planet fake equality
What i mean is we are destroying society in this bullshit movement to create so called unity from the global spread of everything awful. Like socialism!
Yes it's good to recognize and respect each others differences but if you ask me, this victim hierarchy doesn't unite us it only makes us islands unto ourselves where only our specific history, opinion, lineage and or life circumstance is to be respected. Yet we can't give each other the same courtesy we demand.
I heard years ago something biblical to the effect of the end being ushered in by the 'guise of love' and i couldn't even imagine how that would even be possible, love bringing destruction. Then I'll be damned if i haven't seen it all unfold for myself right in front of my fucking face.
Welcome to the planet fake equality
What i mean is we are destroying society in this bullshit movement to create so called unity from the global spread of everything awful. Like socialism!
Yes it's good to recognize and respect each others differences but if you ask me, this victim hierarchy doesn't unite us it only makes us islands unto ourselves where only our specific history, opinion, lineage and or life circumstance is to be respected. Yet we can't give each other the same courtesy we demand.
I heard years ago something biblical to the effect of the end being ushered in by the 'guise of love' and i couldn't even imagine how that would even be possible, love bringing destruction. Then I'll be damned if i haven't seen it all unfold for myself right in front of my fucking face.
Yup,your comment was spot on.RIP Europe.
 
Unfortunately, I completely agree with your opinion/perspective ....but my question is HOW can 'We the People' change this?! Are we too far gone? Too self consumed? Too isolated and disaffected? Is humanity alien to our species? Why can't people just go back to quietly living their lives, instead of forcing others to accept their lifestyles? This world has become utter madness. Biologically, Psychologically, and sociologically. Virtual insanity is what we're living in...yeah...
Warning, this is pretty long but i spent a lot of time and thought on it and writing it helped me actually solidify my position on things so thanks and i hope you guys read it.

Firstly, respect for not only being willing to have the conversation in the first place, but also being awesome enough to not just complain but seek a solution. Where do i start? I like to leave on a high note lol so I'll do the problem first then the possible solution(s).

Ok so hang in there with me, i have a fair amount to say about people and the general state of the world first, but i promise I'll get to your specific question in my typical long winded way. So we're starting with increasingly petulant, entitled, spoiled, sensitive, addicted, chronically dependent people raised poorly by addicts and electronics, who were never taught much of anything about homemaking, self sufficiency, economics, money management, nutrition, accurate world history or conflict resolution. Then add the human tendency to self sabotage, seek the negative out and to run from any hard work or change even if good until it's forced upon us, and the fact that escalation is human nature and we are stuck with nowhere else to escalate to at this point, and it's a bleak picture to start.

There's knowledge, which led to technology, which took less than a century to transform the world and started out as such an amazing achievement yet led to so much evil when pushed to its furthest point (science being corrupted by corporate interests, the loss of so many jobs being replaced by automation, and idiots playing God and doing dangerous and dark shit with dna now such as transhumanism, gmos etc).

Everything is exacerbated by overpopulation and trolls of humans pushing any and every possible concept to its furthest possible limits, and it turns out that when every next drastic progression/act is only a tiny bit further than the last one, it can be hard to find a place we all can agree on to draw the lines of what is ok and what is not, and the result is that we don't ever find that place to draw the line at all. Which is how good things like marriage equality then trans rights slid downhill into weird and bad things like identity politics and people cutting off their own limbs because they identify as amputees. Even originally noble movements that won the rights they should've gotten all along turned ridiculous dangerous and divisive when they kept finding more and more ridiculous goals to fight for, all because they just couldn't face either putting down the victim status they had clung to for so long, or be judged on merit instead of being handed fake approval based on status. Which is how the right to vote, drive, work and be autonomous turned into fart rape and mansplaining.

This all plays into why typical solutions may not apply in this interesting time, and our demonstrated inability amongst different groups in society to finally mend their broken histories and start practicing what they preach. That's i guess how we get into your question, the way we relate to each other globally. I hope you keep hanging out with me!

I never had an opinion on global immigration and overpopulation until i saw it on a smaller scale over the last decade plus that people have been steadily moving to my city, Portland Oregon, at the rate of over 110 a day, and that may actually refer mostly to families not just individual people, I'm not sure. A bad time to become a sanctuary city if you ask me.

And as i saw the safety net intended for portlanders get cut down because of all the other people that weren't even from here or invested in this city claiming entitlements, the lack of parking anywhere, the crime rate rise and the shit pile up in the streets, the 12 person tents inhabited by just one or two tweekers blocking the entire sidewalks, the well dressed foreign families begging for money for multiple things including gas for their car And money for a hotel for 4 people every night (um how about sleeping in your car while you save money for an apartment like anyone else would do?), i started formulating my opinions on global issues, and taking a ton of shit for them too.

And what's weird is that, even though i voted for Obama initially and still celebrate the civil rights movement that's made such great strides in the time that the advancement of technology took to destroy the world as we knew it, i started questioning whether integration of the nations or of people from different places really was as good of a concept in practice or if much like socialism and anarchy, it was destined to fail.

I'd question this, and feel bad for doing so, whenever I'd see things like how smaller or medium sized cities that had managed to actually solve their homeless problem by offering people treatment and housing like Salt Lake City did were then overrun by people from everywhere trying to claim their permanent housing, causing the whole program, and the entire housing first model, to shut down before it could even be implemented anywhere else. I think these things when i see footage of middle eastern immigrants in agreement talking candidly about how they all go to whatever country will give out the most money instead of following the law and going to the nearest safe country. Or when i see footage of entire trains full of immigrants throwing the food and water they were being given back at the people distributing them, and taking bottles of water out of their crying, confused children's hands and throwing the water back onto the platform. I think it when i see privileged black people at prestigious universities actually demand segregation from whites at universities and try to use violence to achieve it- the very opposite of what their own ancestors fought so hard for decades ago. I think these things when i hear about Chinese spies getting caught trying to leave the us with vials of biological samples; when i hear about sharia law pushing Muslims infiltrating Congress, taking over American and European neighborhoods with violence, assaulting robbing and raping thousands of Germans in just one night at just one event, and refusing to assimilate show gratitude or integrate; when i hear of the brutal torture and murder after brutal torture and murder of naive idealistic white hippie chicks who document their solo travels into middle eastern territory under active warnings of violence towards Americans to teach everyone that love solves all and that everything people think about Muslims/middle easterners is bigoted and wrong; when i look at how prisoners everywhere self segregate even in prisons that the prisoners themselves run.

So like you said, wtf is the solution? Well it's become apparent that no city or country can seem to solve its own problems or maintain a system of living while also giving those resources and space to outsiders, because whoever does will be flooded by them and the result will be everyone going without including the very residents that the help was meant for and needed by. It would ensure that the vets who risk their lives for this country don't end up homeless here then slapped in the face with the reality that their survival isn't even as important as those who have no claim here and talk shit on this country.

Oh and if the problem was simply the existence of capitalism, then every American city would have a homeless problem parallel to the ones in the liberal democratic cities that pay the most in benefits and holds addicts and criminals the least responsible for their crimes. Buildings have occupancy limits, why not cities or countries? Why do we tolerate so many cities shipping their homeless to liberal coastal cities that are already overrun? Why can't people seek help in their own city or country? We help so many countries with so much anyway, why come here?

So basically i support the immigration of grateful citizens willing to wait their turn and assimilate, as long as they are demonstrably contributing more than they take in government resources, and the immigration of people who have actually demonstrated danger to them that was unsolvable by any less drastic means than traveling to the nearest safe country, or unsurvivable without first moving elsewhere in their country. Those who commit violent crimes or a few instances or more of other kinds of lower level crimes should be deported each time they re enter.

Then you would have the problem of how to hold a mass intervention on this entire global generation so that so many weren't making a lifetime career out of having babies they can't care for or drawing more in benefits than taxpayers can pay in in that society. I have an idea for this, which is part of the good news.

Basically those who can't or won't adequately care for themselves would be at risk of civil commitment, and instead of jailing people on minor drug charges, that money and money from marijuana sales that doesn't go to schools can go towards making drug tx and job training more available to people, and anyone who submits to help of any kind including just food stamps would be in a program where the client identifies a dream career path to work toward with a counselor, barriers would be identified and worked into a tx plan that the recipient would be held to, and each month they can have one bigger task or a few smaller related goals that they will need to complete in order to get the help they've asked for the following month, with maybe one or two free cards a year when they didn't complete their monthly task yet still get the next months benefit. But we have to hold them responsible in some way or they would likely never better themselves and become willing to be self sustaining.

People will want to cooperate more I'm hoping when they feel respected and given the benefit of the doubt occasionally. I also know from experience that a great way to get an apathetic damaged person who has no interest in integrating into the society that never cared if they lived or died, is to give them opportunities to play the role of the person they see themselves becoming. Many will realize as they start accomplishing things that they had actually never reached or even set a goal before in their lives, and that there really is another better life out there for them that they never even imagined.

I think as long as a person is constantly moving forward and bettering themselves, the rate of progress doesn't matter so much. People can be met where they're starting at. To put it bluntly, sometimes you have to put things in selfish terms that even assholes can understand and tell them what's in it for them. If a client and counselor identify even smaller areas of progress to be made, like learning how to effectively communicate or control ones anger, that can be the focus of the work, or it could be bigger or more specific such as a recent widow who can't seem to function through their grief attending grief and loss counseling to help them manage their feelings and be employable. If a person is already licensed in their dream career such as i am in doing hair, and no legit barriers to employment can be identified, then the focus can be on helping someone like me get back to running their own business working for themselves instead of being a minimum wage slave for life again. Or help them pay for their CDL if they've already done the other work. Etc.

The opiate addicted people who can't seem to get clean on their own or even with the help of rehab after a certain amount of time, maybe 5 years, can go on methadone, which was also instrumental in saving me, because my getting well aka my literal survival was dependent on time management which had formerly been a low priority and a huge barrier for me.

Whatever barriers are identified in people may seem not worth investing in, but the payoff is getting them excited about living an honest life and achieving the dreams they had before the horrors of the world killed their hope. And after these barriers are addressed, the person will have no reason or desire to backside or continue to fuck their own lives off, ideally anyway. And it's proven that the better a persons social life and network is, the less likely they are to use drugs.

The other good news is that this virus scare is causing humanity to finally address their self limiting behavior, whatever it is. It's forcing people to make all the progress they can while there's a chance. And if we all get our own shit back on track and find something to live for, and start immediately employing some self imposed population control measures, then we can integrate more effectively again... But not while we insist on blaming others for our own problems and choices, or as long as we refuse to let go of past grievances and really try living in harmony.
 
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@alifinrox

DAMN! I think I love you. I wish we could find about 200 more people just like you and clean out Washington and put y'all in charge. People with the ability to see, clearly, both sides in an argument or problem and be able to work together toward a mutual decision without sabotaging, filibustering and being a slave to issues that really and truly have nothing to do with the problems at hand. Our leaders in Washington are looking at everything as either THEM or US. not as WE and that is what is needed, WE!

A great big STANDING OVATION!
 
@alifinrox - Thank you! I have a reason to be proud of Portland again! This immigration issue is simple for me. I had to move to South Africa legally. And I was responsible for filling out my own paperwork and getting it right, since I was 11. If I had to do it legally, so does everyone else. It's not about hate, or racism or whatever smear term those that disagree with me want to use. It's about FAIRNESS and doing things the CORRECT way so that everyone gets a fair shake. That's it. End of Story.
 
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I really appreciate the love, your words mean a lot so thanks!!
Hairstylists?I thought you might be a teacher or maybe a close relative of Jordan Peterson.Holy shit!That was a good horns sharpened rant.I know people hate conspiracy stuff but if you get the chance look for George Soros and or the cabal on youtube.
Not just a hairstylist, I'm also an esthetician, writer singer guitarist, fashion designer makeup artist and unofficial sociologist!!
Did you see any of the videos of bill gates calling for early euthanasia of the elderly to save money, where he gave a Ted talk in support of huge scale depopulation, or where he just happened to warn people just last year that we'd 'probably' be facing a virus of some kind that would probably kill a lot of people? I don't know much about Soros however except that he is obviously of some elite bloodline, is rich af, and he invests his money in all kinds of social conflicts and super leftist movements. So I'll def check out the cabal thing, Thx! I don't really mind conspiracy theories because well conspiracies exist in this world and there is so much shady shit going on all the time. I like Jordan Peterson a lot, the world really needs his perspective right now and he has the educational background to know wtf he's talking about. Love Shapiro too.
@cubby you're such a star. I love you too!! Def one of my few favorite people on here. Very well said.
@BuffettGirl, Thx for always being nice to me and i appreciate that you actually have some uncommon sense! Congratulations on your hard work and thanks for being one of the only good things still left in this weirdo town!
@SickSadWorld thank you for inspiring my comment! I can already tell we agree on a lot. I was a lifelong liberal Democrat before i walked away from the party a few years back, and what a trip to see tons of members of minority and marginalized populations share their stories and talk about how coming out as conservative was exponentially harder than coming out as lgbt, and how the group was so much more accepting and welcoming as others from their own race even were to them! It's so sad because so many awesome people who have so much in common insist on throwing it all away because of petty fucking labels.
Anyway guys, trippy fucking times we live in huh? I gotta say, it's also trippy how it was said a long time ago that in these times we're now living in, weird stuff would be happening with the 'birds in the air and the fish in the waters'. And I've been seeing the craziest stories for several years now about weird shit like hundreds of thousands of bats falling out of the sky in Australia etc, and you simply must Google 'norway flash frozen fish' and look at the pics where the man is walking his lil dog on the ice and under the ice all you can see are millions of frozen fish some in mid bend, that all were instantly frozen under the ice when a big cold ass gust of wind swooped in all of a sudden. It's one of prob the 3 trippiest pics I've ever seen!
Be safe guys!
 
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alifinrox ~ people like you are the voices of many closeted patriots. Political ideologies aside....my plea is for preservation. Of our country! What it stands for. Perhaps simple and old fashioned values to many, but that's what made our country the inspirational nation it is to the world. Truth/Reality isn't always nice or pretty, but it keeps justice in place, to serve the people. Conspiracies I've found to hold much weight over the last decade or so....Now more than ever, people need to wake up! I look forward to reading more of your posts to come! Your insight is desperately needed! Thank you! :) :shy: :shame:
Oh, you! *blushes
Yeah i used to support anarchy and sticking it to the man and squandering my blessings and talents to chase unconsciousness, i just kinda laid there in the gutter and accepted every shitty situation figuring it was 'meant to be'. Over the years I've become so grateful for this country and the indominable human spirit and I'm very blessed. I've always known my whole life that I'd grow up to be a rockstar hairstylist and pardon the fuck outta me for having dreams you know? I want to get the band back together, become a worldwide known platform artist doing demonstrations of hair stuff for people and getting applause when I'm done, have my own makeup and hair labels, my own clothing line, and have a big place called Alice's wonderland that would be a mix of a runway setup for runway fashion shows, a retail area where I'd sell my clothes i make, a concert venue retail music area, and a salon! And what i don't understand is, what the fuck is it that makes me so virtuous when i sit on my ass in poverty, that would suddenly make me a horrible heartless person just for putting work and sacrifice into a fucking dream? So yeah I'm glad to live here and those that promote socialism here are free to go see it in practice in any shithole country, no offense to anyone of course.
 
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