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Rouge
Active Member
I just commented on the elizabeth gill thread because she looks like someone I know, BUT could Lori Ruff be a brainwashed E.G.? Ms. Ruff looks like shes had a bit of rhinoplasty. ..ok a LOT of rhinoplasty. And I agree with all who say sje is not as young as she claims to be, definitely mid fifties
Azryhael
Princess of Putrefaction
It's a long shot, but a fascinating theory! I'm off to ruminate on it now...
penelopejo
Mother Nature
I don't think so. Elizabeth Gill has blue eyes. "Lori" has brown. But the resemblance is there.
Too Bad
Active Member
Both of my sisters had blue eyes unitil around 5 then changed to green. I didn't think it possible for brown eyes to change. Mine have only gotten darker.
Rouge
Active Member
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My color change always seems to coincide with a traumatic experience. they started the transformation to green after my mom told me she had cancer, for example.
Piercedprincess666
Active Member
My youngest son was born with blue eyes and they started turning brown at about 3 months
sgr1966
Trusted Member
sorry to disagree but only 2 blues make a blue eyed kid. any other combination can make any color. everybody started out with brown eyes and its a mutation that makes eyes colors other than brown.
Too Bad
Active Member
My father had blue eyes and my mother brown. My brother has blue eyes, both my sisters turned green from blue, and I was born with dark brown/black eyes and they have never changed.
Obviously whatever chart you're using is wrong.
China
La Mera Mera
Hubby and I both brown eyed, my middle child is grey eyed. My sisters joke he's the mailman's lol (those bitchez) but my dad has grey eyes and hubby has an aunt that is grey eyed.
My oldest's dad is blue eyed and my oldest is brown eyed.
Rouge
Active Member
My dads are brown, moms are blue, my brothers are blue and mine are just weird
Sari
New Member
I wonder if they've looked at the possibility that this woman was an immigrant or was brought over by immigrant parents as a child? Thus needed a valid US birth certificate to progress within the US. It makes a simple kind of sense. She looks strikingly like a family of people I know who live in the Idaho, Arizona and Utah. Some of them are kind of militant nuts??? Weird case, feeling this week like aren't they all.
Oh and my hubs eyes turned from dark brown to bright green at 17.
Oh and my hubs eyes turned from dark brown to bright green at 17.
cubby
Live Long and Prosper
i have green eyes, my first baby's daddy had bright blue eyes and our son has hazel, which are sometimes blue, sometimes green, sometimes kinda greeny blue/brown. LOL. He's changeable! It has been said he has Elvis Presley eyes, but I think that more because of his sexiness and not the color. LOL I don't know of sexy, to me he's still that nasty little boy playing in dirt.
My second baby's daddy had brown eyes and our son is blue eyed, just blue and he's never ben accused of being sexy, not within my hearing anyway. LOL.
My mother is blue-eyed and my father was brown and I am green. We're a pretty mixed up bunch it seems.
My second baby's daddy had brown eyes and our son is blue eyed, just blue and he's never ben accused of being sexy, not within my hearing anyway. LOL.
My mother is blue-eyed and my father was brown and I am green. We're a pretty mixed up bunch it seems.
Sudonim
Trusted Member
That used to be the case, but they've found there are dominant blue genes in some families. Take mine for example. Every person in my direct family line has blue eyes. My background consists from German, Scottish and French with a smidgen of Norwegian and Swedish thrown in.
My two oldest children are 1/2 native, their dad has brown eyes, yet 1 of them has my blue eyes. My youngest 2 kids have my background + Dutch and Portuguese, their dad has brown eyes and both of them have my blue eyes. Three out of my four kids have blue eyes and both dad's have brown. My sister's kids all have blue eyes and their dad has brown.
Abroad
Veteran Member
You would not have to have a "dominant blue-eyed gene" for this to occur. All you need is for all the brown-eyed fathers involved to be carrying a recessive blue-eye gene that does not come to expression in themselves because of their dominant brown-eyed gene.....
Sudonim
Trusted Member
It's a good point about recessive genes and it applies to everything from eye color, hair color, skin color to even blood type. We got thrown for a loop with my oldest. She's type O blood but I'm AB and her dad is A. As much as high school teachers want to say only two O's can make an O, that's not true and quite a few people carry O as a recessive gene and don't know it. I found out I am really an AB/O and her dad is really an A/O resulting in her being an O/O. It's extremely rare but but does happen.
Rockin Ma
Chauffer specializing in geriatric transport
You can always disagree, I don't believe all the charts I read on the internet. Her sister has blue.
I always thought I had brown eyes, but they are hazel most of the time. My mom and her side all brown, my dad hazel, but the ship manifest when my grandfather came over says his eyes were gray. My daughter has blue. My son brown. My nephew's deep browns produced a the brightest blue eyed kid I've ever seen.
However biology works, I my own common sense says my brown gene must be recessive if such a thing exists since our family browns more often than not don't dominate.
Negatoris Wrecks
Active Member
blue is recessive. mine are dark brown but my dad's were blue and my boyfriends are blue. my daughters are stunningly blue. on the other hand blue isn't always recessive. there is a genetic strain called "true blue" that dominates over a brown eyed parents genes, even if both of their parents eyes are brown. genetics aren't exactly straight forward. anyway, how about that local sports team?
Keepalowprofile
Nothing changes when nothing changes.
I can't even begin to think about who she really was, I'm hung up on the thought that the husband killed her and the mother in law wrote the letters. They should do a DNA on the envelope and see who licked it closed.
Cassidy
Self proclaimed Princess
Hubby and I both brown eyed, my middle child is grey eyed. My sisters joke he's the mailman's lol (those bitchez) but my dad has grey eyes and hubby has an aunt that is grey eyed.
My oldest's dad is blue eyed and my oldest is brown eyed.
I also have grey eyes. And it says that on my license so it's a legit thing.
The true identitiy of Lori Erica Ruff, a woman known as Jane Doe to investigators, has continued to remain a mystery to her husband and family nearly three years after she took her own life in 2010.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/authorities-struggle-id-mystery-woman-article-1.1383957
In 1989 authorities say the woman used a deceased 2-year-old girl's name to obtain this Idaho ID, giving her the name of Becky Sue Turner and age of 19.
When she moved to Texas in 1989 she changed her name to Lori Erica Kennedy and in 2003 met her future husband, Jon Blakely "Blake" Ruff.
Blake Ruff's family found her mysteries and elusiveness frustrating, however, leading to marriage trouble and her eventual suicide after their divorce in December, 2010.
After Lori's funeral Blake's family searched her home and discovered her Iowa ID and the 2-year-old girl's birth certificate, but who she really was still remains a mystery.
#1. I think that Lori was suffering from, untreated Post Pardom Depression, and that is why she could not think her way through the ordeal of pending divorce and custody issues. If she had thought her way through something much more horrifying to become another person and take on a whole new life, she was far more capable.
I have a couple of theories on whom she is.
#2. She resembles the Ervil LeBaron family. I cannot find a photo of Rebecca LeBaron, but Ervil LeBaron some of his children resembles her a lot. As well as some of the other LeBaron daughters. Rebecca LeBaron was 3 months pregnant in 1977 when she was put on a hit list and a botched attempt was made on her life by her Father. Her mother and several other half brothers and sisters either committed suicide, escaped foster homes, were murdered, or became murderers or carried out their fathers wishes. I don't know how to add pictures to this or to make a new comment.
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lapsus.lingua
Constant Reader
I always wanted 2 blue eyed little girls when I was growing up, but thought it would never happen because my eyes are so dark brown that they are almost black. Lo and behold, I marry a blue-eyed man whose father has green eyes, and I get 2 blue eyed little girls, and two green eyed little boys 
One of my bio profs told me that my husband most likely lacks a gene for brown eyes (but I have a gene for both blue and green, from grandparents) and this is why none of our children ever did or would have brown eyes. He said there has to be a gene (either dominant or recessive, doesn't matter) for the same color in both parents to get eye color.
Just thought was neat...
One of my bio profs told me that my husband most likely lacks a gene for brown eyes (but I have a gene for both blue and green, from grandparents) and this is why none of our children ever did or would have brown eyes. He said there has to be a gene (either dominant or recessive, doesn't matter) for the same color in both parents to get eye color.
Just thought was neat...
lapsus.lingua
Constant Reader
I just came across an article from November 1989 about the Lebaron children who went missing from foster care in September of 1989. Three of them were girls: Norma, 18, Nikki, 17, and Jessica, 15.
This lady first popped up (as far back as traceable so, far anyway) in 1989. The Lebaron girls went missing from Salt Lake City. Her first ID, is in Idaho (the next state over from Utah), lists a California place of birth- another state abutting Utah.
It is reported that all 3 girls refused to cooperate with authorities for fear of retribution from other family members.
This theory is starting to become more and more plausible and fascinating to me! I'll be watching this one, for sure!
This lady first popped up (as far back as traceable so, far anyway) in 1989. The Lebaron girls went missing from Salt Lake City. Her first ID, is in Idaho (the next state over from Utah), lists a California place of birth- another state abutting Utah.
It is reported that all 3 girls refused to cooperate with authorities for fear of retribution from other family members.
This theory is starting to become more and more plausible and fascinating to me! I'll be watching this one, for sure!
