Two Lincolnshire 14 - Year - Olds Charged With Murder

[TheMorningStar]

Two 14-year-olds have been charged with murder after two bodies were found in a house in the UK town of Spalding, police said Sunday.
Lincolnshire police said they had not officially identified the bodies found Friday.
Preliminary reports indicate the victims are Elizabeth Edwards, 49, and her daughter Katie, 13, according to police.
The two teens have been arrested and are scheduled to appear at the Lincoln Magistrates Court on Monday.
A detective in charge of the investigation said authorities want to talk to anyone who may have seen activity at the home between Wednesday and Friday.
"Post mortem examinations will be carried out in due course but again I still need to speak to anyone with any information that might be relevant," Detective Chief Inspector Martin Holvey said.
The deaths sent shock waves through the small market town with a population of 29,000, Superintendent Paul Timmins said in a statement.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/17/europe/uk-teen-murder-charges/

 

[FrayedKnot]

Gonna venture a guess:

One of the 14-year-olds is the 13-year-old victim's boyfriend or ex.

Mom did not approve. Daughter obeyed mom. BF got some loser friend to help him "teach those bitches a lesson".

 

[Snoods]

Gonna venture a guess:

One of the 14-year-olds is the 13-year-old victim's boyfriend or ex.

Mom did not approve. Daughter obeyed mom. BF got some loser friend to help him "teach those bitches a lesson".

Bingo, Frayed! I bet you're right.

It's the UK (no offense to my UK friends, but the justice system does seem a bit too lenient on criminals. And ours isn't perfect either.) so don't worry, they'll be properly punished. Probably given a 7 pm curfew and made to wear a tag. Then given name changes and paid for housing.

 

[Forensicwx]

Or maybe the 14 year old is a sibling, she and her bf killed her mom and sister so they could ride off into the sunset together!!

 

[BostonBurns]

If it were here in the US, I'd bet that mom was a teacher, and was fucking one of the 14 year-olds. How the murder played out is up for speculation

 

[sarahdownunder]

Bingo, Frayed! I bet you're right.

It's the UK (no offense to my UK friends, but the justice system does seem a bit too lenient on criminals. And ours isn't perfect either.) so don't worry, they'll be properly punished. Probably given a 7 pm curfew and made to wear a tag. Then given name changes and paid for housing.

Don't forget, they'll successfully sue while in prison and receive a nice, fat payout, for being denied their basic human rights for not having access to an Xbox.

 

[Snoods]

The boy and girl teen sweethearts, both 14, are accused of killing Elizabeth Edwards, 49, and her daughter Katie – who were knifed to death at their home, according to unconfirmed reports.

They were arrested on Saturday, after neighbours heard ‘arguments’ and the sound of glass smashing at the house in Spalding, Lincolnshire, last week.

[...]

Amber’s (Katie's school friend) mother, Suzanne Chuter, 50, said of the boy charged with murder: ‘It has been said [he] has anger issues.’

Local resident Devon Baxter, 18, said the arrested girl had changed dramatically since starting her relationship with the boy – neither of whom can be named because of their age. She claimed: ‘After meeting him she stopped speaking to people. If you spoke to her in the street she would just walk off. She became a rebellious, sullen teen.’

The accused girl went through a brief phase of dressing in dark clothes when she was younger, but friends persuaded her to switch to ‘jeans and brightly coloured tops’ because she was being bullied over her sense of fashion, said another local, adding: ‘I think that period affected her really badly. She felt people were out to get her.’

Katie Edwards

Elizabeth Edwards

This ground floor window was found smashed.

The local residents are so eager to insert themselves into this story with their inane comments.

Yes, the girl is a murderer because she wore dark clothes years ago. Thank goodness her friends persuaded her to wear jeans and brightly colored tops! Wait, maybe jeans and brightly colored tops are what made her a murderer? Oh fuck, I have on black pants and a brightly colored top right now! I'm so confused, should I murder someone or not? :shrug:

Hey, maybe she's just a murderer, regardless of what she wears.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...murder-dinner-lady-daughter-13-dead-home.html
[doublepost=1461183598,1460956619][/doublepost]Teenage sweethearts planned for a week before killing Elizabeth and Katie Edwards

A schoolgirl killed alongside her dinner lady mum at their home was stabbed to death in her bed, a court heard yesterday.

A girl and boy of 14 were in the dock charged with the “premeditated” murder of Liz Edwards, 49, and 13-year-old Katie, who were found dead last Friday.

Liz was stabbed first before daughter Katie was attacked in her room at the family home in Spalding, Lincolnshire, the court was told.

[...]

The court heard the girl and boy, who cannot be named for legal reasons, planned the double killing before carrying it out last week.

Prosecutor Jim Clare said: “This is a pre-meditated and pre-planned murder. It has been planned a week or so beforehand by the defendants.”

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/spalding-double-murder-charge-schoolgirl-7781397

 

[Abroad]

Don't forget, they'll successfully sue while in prison and receive a nice, fat payout, for being denied their basic human rights for not having access to an Xbox.

I don't usually comment when people complain about how lenient the UK justice system is, because I sort of agree; but when did anything like this ever happen? I am truly at a loss as to where this suggestion came from?

 

[sarahdownunder]

I don't usually comment when people complain about how lenient the UK justice system is, because I sort of agree; but when did anything like this ever happen? I am truly at a loss as to where this suggestion came from?

I'll just throw a few cases out, rather than sit here and write too much.

Abu Qatada, terrorist. Sued for 'unlawful detention'.
Rupert Massey, pedophile. Sued for 'stress'.
Class action by multiple UK prisoners. Sued for 'access to methadone in lieu of heroin access'.
Stuart Blackstock, armed robbery. Sued for 'minor delays regarding his prison release'.
Kirk Dickson. Sued for 'the human right to artificially inseminate whilst jailed'.
George Blake, spy. Sued for 'the right to profit on a book he wrote about his crimes whilst in jail'.
Michael Abodebolajo. Murderer. Sued for 'compo' after losing 2 teeth after attacking a guard.
Chire Henderson. Suing now for 'suffering' from an alleged rat bite.
Joanne Dennehy. Serial killer. Suing now for 'not liking being segregated in jail' and also because 'jail makes her tearful'.
Graham Courts, murderer. Sued for 'compo' for being made to wear a prison uniform.
Abdul Mial, terrorist. Sued for 'racial discrimination' for having a female prison officer pat him down.
Abdullah Ahmed Ali, terrorist. Sued for 'compo' because his mail was opened and checked by the prison.
Noel Jennings, burglar. Suing for 'compo' from hitting his head by accident while 'play fighting' with another inmate.

All of these scumbags have used the EU Human Rights laws - and sued or are suing now, the UK government via their breach of these laws in the EU Human Rights Courts.

In March this year, Justice Minister Dominic Raab has authorized a 'crackdown' and audit on prisoner compensation payouts after climbing to over ten million pounds, stating while its important for the prison system to be held accountable for their actions, frivolous compensation claims are showing a marked increase.

 

[Abroad]

Ah, you didn't actually mean what you said about the Xbox, - pure hyperbole. Got it.

 

[kennasmom]

A prisoner in Nevada sued for cruel and unusual punishment because the prison replaced crunchy peanut butter with creamy....I feel it was justified too, creamy peanut butter is just disappointing.

 

[Keepalowprofile]

A prisoner in Nevada sued for cruel and unusual punishment because the prison replaced crunchy peanut butter with creamy....I feel it was justified too, creamy peanut butter is just disappointing.

Maybe someone was allergic to the peanuts in crunchy peanut butter.

:hilarious:

 

[GiggleFairy]

Even if they were in the USA, they'd most likely be tried as juveniles, then have their records sealed when they're 18. TOTALLY SUCKS! You can't tell me these two wastes of oxygen will grow up to be something productive. Not on the track they're on.

 

[Satanica]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-...ng&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central

A 15-year-old girl has been found guilty of murdering a mother and daughter.

The teenager, who cannot be named, was 14 when she and her boyfriend stabbed Elizabeth Edwards, 49, and her daughter, Katie, 13, as they slept at their home in Spalding, Lincolnshire.

The girl had denied murdering the two women but admitted manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility.

A 15-year-old boy admitted murder at the start of the trial.

Both teenagers will be sentenced at a later date.

 

[Abroad]

I see they are still dancing around the subject of how the victims where related to one of the murderers and which one of them.

During the six-day trial, Nottingham Crown Court heard the love-struck teenagers' relationship compared to that of US gangsters Bonnie and Clyde.

Jurors had heard how the teenagers meticulously planned the murders before carrying them out "to the letter".

The seven men and five women of the jury took just two and a half hours to reach their verdicts.

Following the killings the couple shared a bath, had sex and watched four Twilight movies before they were arrested.

The court heard the teenagers had planned to commit suicide after the killings but decided not to go through with that part of their plan.

These two teenagers now have the notoriety of becoming the youngest couple in Britain to have killed. It was a planned double murder born out of an intense relationship. They were two 14-year-olds who in the court appearances following their arrest exchanged smiles and loving looks.

But when the boy pleaded guilty to murder last week, the body language between the two was very different. No furtive looks, no smiles. They coldly ignored each other. It emerged over the coming days they had split up. Hardly surprising as they've both been kept in separate secure accommodation.

What ruins they have left behind though. Drawn together by suicidal thoughts, they convinced each other over a McDonald's meal that the solution to the grudge she had against 49-year-old Liz Edwards was to kill. Intense planning followed where the murder of Ms Edwards' daughter was also approved.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-37693103

 

[LarzlovesJahi]

The court heard the teenagers had planned to commit suicide after the killings but decided not to go through with that part of their plan.