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A teen couple from Pennsylvania were arrested for allegedly plotting to kill the girl’s stepdad after he caught them sleeping together, a report said.

Dillian Mikel Weaver, 19, and Angelina Grace Peluso, 16, are accused of trying to recruit a hitman to kill Howard Blackburn, according to PennLive, citing police.

Upset over Blackburn’s reaction to catching them in bed together on Thursday morning, Peluso allegedly lied to Weaver over Snapchat, claiming her stepfather sexually assaulted her, according to arrest affidavits obtained by the news site.

Weaver, fuming over the allegations, reached out to another woman on Snapchat about his desire to have Blackburn killed by somebody.

“He gets off work at 5:30 so we’d have to be there before him and get him as soon as he gets out of his truck before he goes inside. We need to cover our faces … they have cameras there,” Weaver texted the woman, according to the affidavits.

“Just gotta take his body and dispose of him somewhere. So he’s never heard from..or found,” Weaver wrote.

The woman directed Weaver to a possible hitman. Weaver contacted the unidentified man and detailed the scheme to kill Blackburn, the report said.

“I just need him gone and no questions asked yk?” Weaver told the man, according to the affidavits.

But later Thursday night, the man notified authorities, saying he thought the murder-for-hire plot was a joke.

On Friday, the possible-hitman-turned-informant told Weaver another man, who could provide a gun, wanted to meet in person, according to the affidavits.

The informant and an undercover cop picked up Weaver Friday, where the boyfriend was recorded saying he wanted Blackburn dead.

Weaver and Peluso were later taken into custody. They were charged with criminal solicitation to commit first-degree murder, conspiracy to commit first-degree murder and criminal use of a communication device, the report said.
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My mom used to walk in on me when I first discovered.......................um nevermind.But my point is I never would think of harming her.Idiots.
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Yeah that kid looks like he would be front and center at a Village People show
 
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95% of women who report it are legit and probably another 50% or 60% who don't report it.. so the evil conniving 5% is all you ever hear major news about .. not all women deserve that rap.. if a woman lies she should be prosecuted legally and civilly.
When I was in graduate school there was a baby shower for a fellow student, with about 18-20 women in attendance. Somehow we got to talking about who had ever been raped or molested. Only one woman had not been. I would imagine those statistics are not uncommon.
 
I can also easily imagine women saying "me too" to be part of the group. The definition keeps expanding until everyone can be claim membership in the club.
You really think a significant majority of women is going to straight up lie to their friends about having been sexually assaulted? Yeesh, that's a pretty low opinion of your fellow females. I know this is DD and bad people are all we see here, but still.
 
You really think a significant majority of women is going to straight up lie to their friends about having been sexually assaulted? Yeesh, that's a pretty low opinion of your fellow females. I know this is DD and bad people are all we see here, but still.
Yes, I think women will say a lot of things to "keep up" and belong.. They will obfuscate, exagerate and even lie. People keep moving the boundary until everyone is included. And voila! you need a bureacracy to deal with the problem.
 
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Yes, I think women will say a lot of things to "keep up" and belong.. They will obfuscate, exagerate and even lie.

My situation happened long before the "me too" era. Each woman actually told what happened to her. I was there, and I believed them. Using your personal modern day political agenda to paint them as liars is not admirable.

If you were never raped or molested, that's great, congratulations. I was molested several times as a child, and date raped as a teen. Are you going to call me a liar too?
 
@Muriel Schwenck
1 in 4 people (Reported) 1 in 4 people
Socioeconomics/Orientation/Color play significant roles
Good stats
As a survivor who was unable to report
I have never met a woman who said me too me too.. most won't share unless they're in anonymity or close...
On average, there are 433,648 victims (age 12 or older) of rape and sexual assault each year in the United States.
Ages 12-34 are the highest risk years for rape and sexual assault.
Young women are especially at risk.

  • 82% of all juvenile victims are female. 90% of adult rape victims are female.
  • Females ages 16-19 are 4 times more likely than the general population to be victims of rape, attempted rape, or sexual assault.
  • Women ages 18-24 who are college students are 3 times more likely than women in general to experience sexual violence. Females of the same age who are not enrolled in college are 4 times more likely.
COVERS MENS / TRANS ETC...

 
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None of my incidents were ever reported, so I'm not part of any official database or statistic. Many of the other women were also unreported.

When I was a kid, there was no "stranger danger" taught in schools, so when these incidents happened as a child, I was confused and upset. It seemed "bad", but I was confused about whether I was somehow in the wrong. The adult men who molested me of course told me not to tell anyone, or bad things would happen.

As for the date rape, this was before that term existed, so I thought that since I went out with him voluntarily, it couldn't be rape, since rape was some stranger jumping out of the bushes and attacking you. So no report there either.

I think the number of women with unreported molestation or rape in their past is far higher than the official numbers show. Even today, there are all kinds of reasons for not reporting, including being disbelieved. It's bad enough that it has happened to you, but the idea of telling all the awful details and not being believed would just make a bad situation worse.
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But how did so many women in the abused category get into one group that only one reported no incident? Unless it was quite a niche, it's statistically weird.
I don't know the answer, I only know that it happened. We were all in law school at the time, so maybe what drew us to that path was the injustice in our own past? Just a guess, I have no proof that was the case, and I don't recall anyone saying "that's why I'm here".
 
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None of my incidents were ever reported, so I'm not part of any official database or statistic. Many of the other women were also unreported.

When I was a kid, there was no "stranger danger" taught in schools, so when these incidents happened as a child, I was confused and upset. It seemed "bad", but I was confused about whether I was somehow in the wrong. The adult men who molested me of course told me not to tell anyone, or bad things would happen.

As for the date rape, this was before that term existed, so I thought that since I went out with him voluntarily, it couldn't be rape, since rape was some stranger jumping out of the bushes and attacking you. So no report there either.

I think the number of women with unreported molestation or rape in their past is far higher than the official numbers show. Even today, there are all kinds of reasons for not reporting, including being disbelieved. It's bad enough that it has happened to you, but the idea of telling all the awful details and not being believed would just make a bad situation worse.
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I don't know the answer, I only know that it happened. We were all in law school at the time, so maybe what drew us to that path was the injustice in our own past? Just a guess, I have no proof that was the case, and I don't recall anyone saying "that's why I'm here".
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you were making the assertion that overall 19 out if 20 women in the US have been sexually assaulted. Merely that it's extremely widespread and more common than most people think.

Even if that party wasn't representative of overall demographics, statistically, sexual assault is still common enough that a random occasion of having 19/20 people in a room with that experience would not be statistically implausible.
 
So this thread took an interesting turn.

I thought when #metoo first came out it was just for rape. Exclusively rape, then it quickly became for people who had been molested, then it became people that were or felt they were harassed.

I see what both of you are saying. I think a lot goes unreported for a lot of various reasons. I also think in a lot of cases people want to "join the club/cause".
 
For what it's worth, I never chose to post my past incidents in any "me too" thread when that was a thing. I've had therapy and moved past these incidents, so I didn't feel the need. I think that some of the things that now constitute "harassment" or abuse of women under the new definition are idiotic... like opening a door, or giving a woman a compliment. Just as with so many other things, social justice warriors have taken what started as a reasonable idea (don't rape or sexually molest women) and pushed it too far. But that doesn't mean real abuse and rape didn't happen in the past, and still do happen, far too often.
 
Don't get me started. My oldest is now 17yr and a HS senior. There was a period, right before the pandemic, where anything was basically sexual assault/rape. I had to have a really big talk with her about the power of certain terms and what constituted what.
It wasn't cool then and it isn't cool now. Some people then don't understand why nobody will believe them when something serious does happen after claiming sexual assault or rape when it didn't happen.
 
It wasn't cool then and it isn't cool now. Some people then don't understand why nobody will believe them when something serious does happen after claiming sexual assault or rape when it didn't happen.
You mean chronic liars are surprised when everything they say is met with skepticism?
No they're not.
No one around them is surprised either.

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"In rigorous research, rates of false reports are consistently very low, ranging from 2% to 10%. This is similar to rates of false reports for other crimes."


The highest rate of false accusations is for child abuse (adults doing the accusing).

But everyone seems disproportionately concerned about the possibility of false rape accusations?

Women accusing men, in particular, and in this one crime that because of biology, effects women more than men.?

Why?


I don't think every woman's word should be the only evidence needed.
That's ridiculous.

Cops treat you the same whether you report car theft or sexual assault.
Don't believe Law and Order.
They're nice and all, but they're professionals.

I do think every accusation of crime should be evaluated, investigated.

If anyone thinks it's "Believing women unconditionally" by taking a police report...smh.

"Wrongly accused" doesn't mean "Wrongly convicted."


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Don't get me started. My oldest is now 17yr and a HS senior. There was a period, right before the pandemic, where anything was basically sexual assault/rape. I had to have a really big talk with her about the power of certain terms and what constituted what.

So, @Turd Fergusen. I think you have male offspring?

"A man is 230 times more likely to be raped than to be falsely accused of rape."

Is your talk with any sons going to be proportional to the actual risks?

---Spending 3 hours and 50 minutes on how he can protect himself from sexual assault...

(Emphasizing that he shouldn't falsely accuse others, of course...)

...then just the 1 minute on the possibility of him being falsely accused?---

Is that how that talk is going to go?

Did you speak to your daughter on how to conduct herself so she can avoid being falsely accused?

What should she do if there's false rumors going around about her? Falsehoods?

I'll bet for every false rape accusation there's 500 sexually-based rumors started, spread and believed.
And mostly about women.

Just a reputation...

(I'm not trying to take away from your efforts at communication with your children, not at all, but what's the subtext, the real lesson ?)

-And I'm having a hard time finding cases of men being accused of rape for holding a door open.
But you believe accusations of rape "For anything and everything" is the mainstream? That emphasis must be put on it, it's SO rampant? You can't be too careful around these nitwits? Don't use your
judgement and exercise prudence, just assume they're all untrustworthy schemers?

There's only so many Tawana Brawley or even Dick Rowland situations in the world, thank God.


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@Brillig's example.
Muriel trying so hard to imply these strangers were lying. Simpletons, accusers of men, can't be trusted.

Women are told to shift where their boundaries end, and where "it's her fault" starts, all the time.


If you think a false rape accusation (again, NOT a conviction) can "ruin" a reputation?
you'd be right.

Rumors and gossip about someone's sexual conduct and their honesty, their morality, always have a way of doing exactly that, don't they ?

When it happens to women, it's a passtime, no big deal, hilarious, just locker room talk.

When it happens to men, it's an evil of the highest order.

You had no idea how bad it was for women.
You didn't want to know. You wish we hadn't told you. You wish it would go away.

So you say it's not true. Or it's wildly exaggerated. By unscrupulous and morally bankrupt women.

And it's not healthy to see it amongst 2 dimensional images, (celebrities we don't know) and it's better to gather the 8-10 females you spend the most time with and ask them if anyone has ever hurt them, scared them. Ask them if anyone ever asked them to keep a secret. Disrespected their stated wishes.

Then you can start to understand

There's a co-existing world out there that you don't/can't see or feel.
That's not your fault.

You don't have to wonder if the tweaker is behind the rubbish bins. Because he never bothers you. You don't pretend to have a conversation with someone in your apartment, because he's watching which one you enter, and you don't want him to know you're alone.

Maybe that's what's meant by "believe us or them" or whatever it was.
Believe us when we're talking about a world that's invisible to you, and that for some things, you're just going to have to take our word for it.*




* I don't mean the relevant facts of a circumstance or case.


The lying virgins"!! ^^^

Vagina cameras, the" Vagera™" "Vagographer™"
 
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