It wasn't cool then and it isn't cool now. Some people then don't understand why nobody will believe them when something serious does happen after claiming sexual assault or rape when it didn't happen.
You mean chronic liars are surprised when everything they say is met with skepticism?
No they're not.
No one around them is surprised either.
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In rigorous research, rates of false reports are consistently very low, ranging from 2% to 10%. This is similar to rates of false reports for other crimes."
The highest rate of false accusations is for child abuse (adults doing the accusing).
But everyone seems disproportionately concerned about the possibility of false rape accusations?
Women accusing men, in particular, and in this one crime that because of biology, effects women more than men.?
Why?
I
don't think every woman's word should be the only evidence needed.
That's ridiculous.
Cops treat you the same whether you report car theft or sexual assault.
Don't believe Law and Order.
They're nice and all, but they're professionals.
I
do think every accusation of crime should be evaluated, investigated.
If anyone thinks it's "Believing women unconditionally" by taking a police report...smh.
"Wrongly accused" doesn't mean "Wrongly convicted."
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Don't get me started. My oldest is now 17yr and a HS senior. There was a period, right before the pandemic, where anything was basically sexual assault/rape. I had to have a really big talk with her about the power of certain terms and what constituted what.
So,
@Turd Fergusen. I think you have male offspring?
"A man is 230 times more likely to be raped than to be falsely accused of rape."
Is your talk with any sons going to be proportional to the actual risks?
---Spending 3 hours and 50 minutes on how he can protect
himself from sexual assault...
(Emphasizing that
he shouldn't falsely accuse
others, of course..
.)
...then just the 1 minute on the possibility of him being falsely accused?---
Is that how that talk is going to go?
Did you speak to your daughter on how to conduct herself so
she can avoid being falsely accused?
What should she do if there's false rumors going around about her? Falsehoods?
I'll bet for every false rape accusation there's 500 sexually-based rumors started, spread and believed.
And mostly about women.
Just a reputation...
(I'm not trying to take away from your efforts at communication with your children, not at all, but what's the subtext, the real lesson ?)
-And I'm having a hard time finding cases of men being accused of rape for holding a door open.
But you believe accusations of rape "For anything and everything" is the mainstream? That emphasis must be put on it, it's SO rampant? You can't be too careful around these nitwits? Don't use your
judgement and exercise prudence, just assume they're all untrustworthy schemers?
There's only so many Tawana Brawley or even Dick Rowland situations in the world, thank God.
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@Brillig's example.
Muriel trying so hard to imply these strangers were lying. Simpletons, accusers of men, can't be trusted.
Women are told to shift where their boundaries end, and where "it's her fault" starts, all the time.
If you think a false rape accusation (again, NOT a conviction) can "ruin" a reputation?
you'd be right.
Rumors and gossip about someone's sexual conduct and their honesty, their morality, always have a way of doing exactly that, don't they ?
When it happens to women, it's a passtime, no big deal, hilarious, just locker room talk.
When it happens to men, it's an evil of the highest order.
You had no idea how bad it was for women.
You didn't want to know. You wish we hadn't told you. You wish it would go away.
So you say it's not true. Or it's wildly exaggerated. By unscrupulous and morally bankrupt women.
And it's not healthy to see it amongst 2 dimensional images, (celebrities we don't know) and it's better to gather the 8-10 females you spend the most time with and ask them if anyone has ever hurt them, scared them. Ask them if anyone ever asked them to keep a secret. Disrespected their stated wishes.
Then you can start to understand
There's a co-existing world out there that you don't/can't see or feel.
That's not your fault.
You don't have to wonder if the tweaker is behind the rubbish bins. Because he never bothers you. You don't pretend to have a conversation with someone in your apartment, because he's watching which one you enter, and you don't want him to know you're alone.
Maybe that's what's meant by "believe us or them" or whatever it was.
Believe us when we're talking about a world that's invisible to you, and that for some things, you're just going to have to take our word for it.*
* I don't mean the relevant facts of a circumstance or case.
According to the best data available, a man is 230 times more likely to be raped than to be falsely accused of rape.
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