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Baked to death: Walmart worker trapped in walk-in oven dies Saturday evening

Disturbing new twist in death of Halifax Walmart worker, 19, who was 'baked to death' in industrial oven​

Canada's national broadcaster CBC News said their sources had told them the appliance at the Halifax store 'did not lock.'

That raises disturbing new questions about the October 19 death, with previous reports highlighting a 911 call that said the woman was trapped in the oven.
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www.dailymail.co.uk

Walk-in oven at center of tragic Walmart death 'did not lock'

The teenage girl tragically died on Saturday night after she became trapped inside an oven in the bakery section of the superstore in Halifax, Nova Scotia.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
 
What if she went in there on her own, got incapacitated, and someone came by later and turned the oven on, not realizing?

When I worked in a restaurant, the walk in coolers were a hot spot for stoners wanting to take a quick toke.

I could see someone popping in to do other illegal activities too, figuring there will be no cameras seeing what's going on nside.
 
everjaded said:
What if she went in there on her own, got incapacitated, and someone came by later and turned the oven on, not realizing?

When I worked in a restaurant, the walk in coolers were a hot spot for stoners wanting to take a quick toke.

I could see someone popping in to do other illegal activities too, figuring there will be no cameras seeing what's going on nside.
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Hmmmm.

I reject your conjecture.

;) :D
 
cubby said:
Hey! I like the self checkouts, that way I get my stuff scanned and bagged correctly.

I'm an ex retail worker, did it for about 50 years, I can do it the old fashioned way, before registers added the taxes and told you how much change to give back. I know their job better than they ever will.
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I hate self checkout at Walmart. If they feel like they can extort money from you, they will falsely accuse you of theft, you'll be arrested and charged. Walmart will offer to make it go away for $350 or so. One woman sued for 2 million and won cause she proved she didn't steal. Walmart had the video evidence she didn't steal.
 
This story just keeps getting worse.

Teen Walmart worker found burned to death in walk-in oven ID’d — and was found by her mom​

The teen Walmart employee found cooked to death inside of a walk-in oven has been identified as a 19-year-old Gursimran Kaur — as it was revealed she was discovered by her own mother, according to family members.

Kaur’s mom found her daughter’s “charred remains” inside of the Halifax, Nova Scotia Walmart’s large walk-in bakery oven on Saturday night, according to a GoFundMe set up for her family.

The pair worked together at the superstore.
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nypost.com

Teen Walmart worker found burned to death in walk-in oven ID’d — and was found by her mom

The teen Walmart employee found cooked to death inside of a walk-in oven has been identified as a 19-year-old Gursimran Kaur — as it was revealed she was discovered by her own mother, accordi…
nypost.com nypost.com
 
Josh P said:
Walmart will offer to make it go away for $350 or so.
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You do realize that each WM has a different management team and they all are different.

As for the $350, never heard of it. As I said nearly my entire family has worked there and at different stores around the state, my older son and DIL were management, I'm sure if the correct person within WM corporate knew about it, the whole management team would be fired and prosecuted.

I use the self checkouts because I am not doing anything wrong, if they want to check my bags, any container that could hold stuff, go for it, because I'm not doing anything wrong. You pitch a fit and start arguing, start acting like a Karen, yeah they are going to go as far as they can go with you.

Any story you get second, third, fourth hand, don't believe it unless it happened to you personally. Wal-Mart is cast as the devil of retail, but they are not much different than all the other places, just bigger. I've worked in a variety of retail situations, Wal-mart, K-mart, grocery stores, convenient stores and small box stores, DG, they are all the same.
 
cubby said:
You do realize that each WM has a different management team and they all are different.

As for the $350, never heard of it. As I said nearly my entire family has worked there and at different stores around the state, my older son and DIL were management, I'm sure if the correct person within WM corporate knew about it, the whole management team would be fired and prosecuted.

I use the self checkouts because I am not doing anything wrong, if they want to check my bags, any container that could hold stuff, go for it, because I'm not doing anything wrong. You pitch a fit and start arguing, start acting like a Karen, yeah they are going to go as far as they can go with you.

Any story you get second, third, fourth hand, don't believe it unless it happened to you personally. Wal-Mart is cast as the devil of retail, but they are not much different than all the other places, just bigger. I've worked in a variety of retail situations, Wal-mart, K-mart, grocery stores, convenient stores and small box stores, DG, they are all the same.
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I have a question.
Why are there often only a couple of cashiers?
Isn't the whole point to get more money in the till?

Are the impulse items at the checkout generating that significant of a purchase share or higher profit margin?

Hershey chocolate bars in the baking aisle are $1.00
The same ones at the checkout are $2.75 ( They might be .2 ounces difference, just to differentiate)

That cashier shortage always puzzles me.
 
cubby said:
Hey! I like the self checkouts, that way I get my stuff scanned and bagged correctly.

I'm an ex retail worker, did it for about 50 years, I can do it the old fashioned way, before registers added the taxes and told you how much change to give back. I know their job better than they ever will.
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That is the whole reason why I like self check-out, putting items in the right bags correctly. When I get home its much quick and easier to unpack because it's already organized in the bags as to where things should go (in my mind) at home-cold stuff together, cans together, breads etc. If not at a self checkout I put things on the conveyor belt in a certain order in hopes that they get bagged correctly in my mind, I drive my kids crazy when checking out-my youngest (12) just walks away and sits on the bench in WM by the registers-she gives up on me lol And I am not anal about anything but that and wrinkles-hate wrinkles-but I don't iron, that's what my dryer is for-lol

That poor mother!!! The HORROR-I can't even begin to imagine-I would of been taken away in a strait jacket and pumped full of thorazine had that been me finding my baby like that, seriously I don't think, no I know I would never be "right" mentally again. That as a horrible death and truly bizarre, I hope they get to the bottom of this
 
Blunderbuss Firozabad said:
Why are there often only a couple of cashiers?
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Because they schedule cashiers for high traffic times, based on what the sales were like that day last year, it's the stupidest way to do it but that's what they do. They also schedule the whole store that way. The full timers, which there are fewer and fewer of them, are there for their 9 hour shift, whether it's morning, midday or evening shifts and the part timers are scheduled around them, according to high traffics hours.
Blunderbuss Firozabad said:
impulse items
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Yep or they wouldn't be there. It's basically there to shut your kids up.
 
cubby said:
You do realize that each WM has a different management team and they all are different.

As for the $350, never heard of it. As I said nearly my entire family has worked there and at different stores around the state, my older son and DIL were management, I'm sure if the correct person within WM corporate knew about it, the whole management team would be fired and prosecuted.

I use the self checkouts because I am not doing anything wrong, if they want to check my bags, any container that could hold stuff, go for it, because I'm not doing anything wrong. You pitch a fit and start arguing, start acting like a Karen, yeah they are going to go as far as they can go with you.

Any story you get second, third, fourth hand, don't believe it unless it happened to you personally. Wal-Mart is cast as the devil of retail, but they are not much different than all the other places, just bigger. I've worked in a variety of retail situations, Wal-mart, K-mart, grocery stores, convenient stores and small box stores, DG, they are all the same.
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It's extremely well documented that Walmart does practice predatory collections from innocent shoppers they accuse of stealing. My roommate was falsely accused of theft and I was standing next to him. I told him to return everything at customer service. No apologies once they noticed everything was on the receipt. Walmart is the Hertz of the retail world. They will file charges with the police, then you're left to straighten it out. I think actual names of victims and court cases are close enough to first hand information, since there's a legal record of the incidents.

nypost.com

Alabama woman wins $2M after Walmart accused her of stealing food

The products — 11 items in total — included Christmas lights, bread and Captain Crunch cereal.
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Here's a case where she was accused of self checkout theft, returned all her items for a refund and was still arrested for theft.
www.the-sun.com

I was jailed over Walmart self-checkout - my lawyer says it can happen to anyone

A WOMAN who says she was wrongly accused of shoplifting has warned against using self-checkout lines. Marquona Tippens was arrested and charged with petty theft after using a self-checkout counter …
www.the-sun.com www.the-sun.com
 
elmgems said:
Article

Coworkers have said that there was no possible way for her to lock herself in the oven. The door requires hard pushing from outside to get it to latch. Also, there are no jobs that require going inside.
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Walmart employees that have cleaned that model of oven state that the cleaning solution works better when the oven is warm and you stand inside the door to clean. But it is impossible to lock yourself inside. The initial description on the gofundme setup for her had graphic detail of her body being charred and blood was running out of the oven. When the story first broke, I was looking on Reddit and some employees of the store were talking. Some of their statements made me think initially they were full of shit of trying to embellish certain points. As the media has released some details, those early employee statements have actually been spot on.
 
elmgems said:
Article

Coworkers have said that there was no possible way for her to lock herself in the oven. The door requires hard pushing from outside to get it to latch. Also, there are no jobs that require going inside.
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Someone has to go in/out to put the food in/out and clean, right? Not saying the whole deal isn't completely odd but disagreeing with your comment that no one ever goes inside this oven.
 
Josh P said:
Walmart employees that have cleaned that model of oven state that the cleaning solution works better when the oven is warm and you stand inside the door to clean. But it is impossible to lock yourself inside. The initial description on the gofundme setup for her had graphic detail of her body being charred and blood was running out of the oven. When the story first broke, I was looking on Reddit and some employees of the store were talking. Some of their statements made me think initially they were full of shit of trying to embellish certain points. As the media has released some details, those early employee statements have actually been spot on.
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Josh. Did you mention in an earlier that a large baking rack was left in front of the door and maybe left by an employee not knowing she was in there? And the heavy rack perhaps only moved easily forwards and backwards but not side to side so easily?

My theory? A young naive girl fresh from India falls under the spell of an older married man who is a long term employee and knows the cameras are just props, not working or directed at the oven door.
The ovens kept at some temperature at preheat much of the time.

She takes a Walmart pregnancy test and it's positive.
She thinks he'll leave that wife he complains about, but he has no intention of doing that.

He causes her to go unconscious ( drugs, a knock over the head, doesn't matter, all evidence including the pregnancy will be burned)
He drags her into the oven, closes the door, moves the rack in front of the door, just in case, and scuttles back off to work, but not before he takes care of the phone that mom said she NEVER turned off.

Here's why I think he's middle aged. He thought the phone couldn't be tracked if it was off?
Or maybe he wanted to just kill the ringer.

Plenty of gloves in a bakery to hide fingerprints with.

Mom didn't know about the affair, so...

I hope she kept a diary. Or looked up baby stuff online.

She'd only been in Canada 2 years, no coworker would have it out for her. No old feuds from high school.
 
Blunderbuss Firozabad said:
Josh. Did you mention in an earlier that a large baking rack was left in front of the door and maybe left by an employee not knowing she was in there? And the heavy rack perhaps only moved easily forwards and backwards but not side to side so easily?
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As of right now, I haven't found any official report to confirm that. An employee working stated that there was a rack in front of the door blocking the view of the glass as well as her cellphone which was turned off. What I find interesting is, the door doesn't lock, there's an emergency release on the inside, also for the oven to be on, the door must be latched otherwise it stops baking. She was found with the oven on and she can't reach the control screen from inside the oven. I think the oven was used to help destroy evidence of a crime.
 
The cameras at WM used to be mostly decorative, but I can tell that they are real these days. You can find many very large TV screens hanging everywhere, letting you know they are watching you, especially around the check outs, there's one for every counter.

My DIL who works in the deli, says they do have a large oven for bread, the bread is on tall racks and just lined up inside. My son who went over and investigated says there is no way someone locked themselves in it, the lock is on the outside and the door is extremely heavy. Of course, they may not have the exact same oven, but you can be sure they are similar.
 
cubby said:
The cameras at WM used to be mostly decorative, but I can tell that they are real these days. You can find many very large TV screens hanging everywhere, letting you know they are watching you, especially around the check outs, there's one for every counter.

My DIL who works in the deli, says they do have a large oven for bread, the bread is on tall racks and just lined up inside. My son who went over and investigated says there is no way someone locked themselves in it, the lock is on the outside and the door is extremely heavy. Of course, they may not have the exact same oven, but you can be sure they are similar.
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I think as they are remodeling the stores they are turning the decoy cameras and domes into actual ones.
 
cubby said:
The cameras at WM used to be mostly decorative, but I can tell that they are real these days. You can find many very large TV screens hanging everywhere, letting you know they are watching you, especially around the check outs, there's one for every counter.

My DIL who works in the deli, says they do have a large oven for bread, the bread is on tall racks and just lined up inside. My son who went over and investigated says there is no way someone locked themselves in it, the lock is on the outside and the door is extremely heavy. Of course, they may not have the exact same oven, but you can be sure they are similar.
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Why is a lock on it door at all? Odd. That's so cool your son investigated!
 
Bipedalprimate said:
They were talking about this one on Reddit last night. Walmart might actually be in some trouble but doubt it. The locals in Halifax seem to be pissed enough to drag people out of their houses
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No corpo in America gets punished for doing anything ever....
Unless, they were lying to investors.
It's apparently worse than genocide.

Pharma bro, theranos CEO, Bankman Fried, all of them, destroyed lives of thousands, but were not held accountable.

But they won't leave jail before they are old because they made Black Rock lose money
 
It has been a hot minute since I had a sausage roll, but damn. :sour:

I think I will stick to having mine cold.
 

Eerie update in death of Walmart worker who baked to death in walk-in oven​

Police have ruled out foul play in the mysterious death of a Walmart employee who was baked to death inside a walk-in oven.

The charred remains of Gursimran Kaur, 19, were found by her mother inside the walk-in oven of the Walmart she worked at in Halifax, Nova Scotia, on October 19.

'The police investigation determined the death is not suspicious and there is no evidence of foul play,' officials said in a statement on Monday.
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www.dailymail.co.uk

Eerie update in death of Walmart worker who baked to death in oven

The charred remains of Gursimran Kaur, 19, were found inside the walk-in oven of the Walmart she worked at in Halifax, Nova Scotia.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
 
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