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Toddler Starved To Death Because He Couldn't Say "amen".

How utterly heartbreaking. He was such a beautiful little baby boy. The callousness of these locusts is beyond understanding.
 
Toni Sloan, 41, who claimed God had christened her "Queen Antoinette," received a 50-year sentence composed of two consecutive 25-year terms, one for second-degree murder and the other for first-degree child abuse. Sloan said she was "not sorry" for the toddler's death.

Trevia Williams, 22, and Marcus Cobbs, 23 received the same sentence, with all but 15 years suspended for each.

"There can still be hope" for them, said Baltimore Circuit Judge Timothy J. Doory. He did not express the same optimism for Sloan, who had issued the order in 2006 to starve the 16-month-old boy until he said "amen," according to prosecutors.

"This crime is somewhat mystifying to me," Doory said at sentencing. "What that means is, you didn't care. And also, you knew you didn't care, and you just let it happen. … Each of you, with varying degrees of responsibility, stood by and watched that child die a horrible death."

The judge had dismissed first-degree murder charges against the three during the trial, saying that he did not believe that they had intended to kill the boy.

During the trial, Sloan was characterized as the head of the group, a cult leader who lured young people into her home and controlled the most minute aspects of their lives through her self-styled religion, down to what colors they wore and whether they were allowed to feed their sons.

"You were a collector of people, a collector of disaffected children, a collector of lost souls," Doory said to Sloan. "You are the person most responsible."
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Sloan maintained her innocence Tuesday.

"I still believe, and I still stand firm, that I'm not guilty and the truth will eventually come out, however long it takes," Sloan said in court.
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None of the defendants has shown remorse for Javon's death or accepted responsibility.

Williams, Sloan's biological daughter, mumbled something about not trusting the court when asked if she wanted to make a statement. She was described as "the enforcer" of Sloan's rules.

Cobbs, the third defendant, told the court that he had nothing to say. He had planned to help Javon once but had been talked out of it, according to trial testimony. Cobbs tried to cover up the boy's death, the jury found.
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In addition to their 15-year prison sentences, Cobbs and Williams will be placed on probation after their release and ordered to stay away from children who are not relatives and to avoid contact with their co-defendants. That means that Williams will be barred from seeing her mother.

Each defendant will be eligible for parole after serving half of his or her term.

Javon's grandmother, Seeta Newton, who had fought to save him from the moment her daughter took him away, read a statement in court.

"I look at Javon's picture every day and I realize that I'm never, ever going to hold him, never see him … never watch him grow up, never give him love again," Newton said. "I want him back, and it hurts me every day."

Turning to Sloan, she decried her use of religion to manipulate young people.

"You sneak up on them when their families are not looking," Newton said. "The most disgusting part of this is that you do it in the name of God."
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http://articles.baltimoresun.com/20...0518_1_cult-members-sentenced-toddler-s-death
 
She says the state sees Ramkissoon as a victim.
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The state might see her as a victim, but I sure as hell don't.

She claims she was so caught up in this cult, brainwashed and had to obey the order to starve her child to death, lest she go to hell. Yet she had no such qualms about doing a deal with prosecutors - ratting on her fellow cultists to save her own hide.

And she was able to do that without being 'de-programmed', and before receiving any kind of help or counselling whatsoever.

So basically, this woman was brainwahsed just enough to follow orders to starve her baby, but not enough to stand by her fellow members when the shit hit the fan after her baby was found?

Some 'victim'.
 
Not going to read this story.The tag alone pissed me off.Fuck all hardcore Christians in the neck with a rusty piece of steel..............
 
Ria Ramkissoon, 22, will be enrolled in a counseling program on a farm in rural northeast Maryland, according to attorneys on both sides. The program, which has no fences or guards, was chosen for her by a city prosecutor who arranges alternative sentencing options.

"It's not a correctional facility. It's a place for her to get re-acclimated. She'll be part of a community and have a job and responsibilities," said Steven D. Silverman, Ramkissoon's attorney. "She's very excited about the opportunity to do something positive."
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Well, ain't that special. She gets to lead her life much link nothing happened, meanwhile Javon's body rots in the earth.

This case makes me so angry, every time I come in here I see baby Javon's face and the fire's reignite.
They let this sweet face child die a slow miserable death, all I ask is they get the same. The "mother" a pathetic, weak shit, should never be able to conceive children again. NO one was helpless like baby Javon was. He had absolutely no choice but to take his misery and die. I fuckn hate every single one of these thieves of life. That they still breath is so unfair.

SO very sorry baby Javon, kisses to you, heaven's light and all it's glory is yours.
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Can I get a WTF?????!!!

A Baltimore judge said a young mother who starved her 1-year-old son to death while part of a religious cult has "made great strides."

Ria Ramkissoon pleaded guilty to a single count of child abuse resulting in death and received a suspended sentence.

Prosecutors agreed to the deal after determining that she had been brainwashed by cult leader Queen Antoinette.

Ramkissoon has spent the past 90 days at a faith-based residential treatment center.

Baltimore Circuit Judge Timothy Doory made no changes to Ramkissoon's probation at a hearing Wednesday, ordering her to remain at the treatment center until its operators decide she's ready to leave.

Asked outside the courtroom how she's doing, Ramkissoon said, "blessed. Very blessed."[/QUOTE]

http://www.wbaltv.com/news/24510277/detail.html

Brainwashed??? Bullshit. Blessed? I would have preferred to hear her begging for food! Unbelievable.
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Queen Antoinette? Off with her head, I say.

Crazy bitch mother starved the kid intentionally and is pulling the psych card...and ironically the courts bought it. Poor boy, all he wanted to do was be an atheist...
 
Slain boy's mom discusses cult life


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When Ria Ramkissoon's spiritual mentor ordered her to deny food and water to her toddler son, she didn't know what to think or do. She was paralyzed by fear and confusion.

The 19-year-old mother had been living with the woman, who called herself Queen Antoinette, for several months when Ramkissoon's son did not say "amen" before a meal one morning. That word was one of the few Javon Thompson could say at 15 months old, and Antoinette told Ramkissoon not to feed him until he said it. Like always, she cited the Bible as her authority.

In Antoinette's unusual household — which police and prosecutors later described as a cult — no one questioned her orders.

Ramkissoon thought about defying her leader, grabbing Javon and leaving the house. But she didn't think Antoinette would maliciously make up her claim that the boy was possessed by an evil spirit. And she didn't want to defy God's will, guaranteeing eternal damnation.

So she did nothing.

Nobody else in the 10-person household came to Javon's aid either. Over the next week, he whimpered and grew sluggish and sallow. By the time Antoinette relented and told Ramkissoon to feed the boy, it was too late. Javon died in his mother's arms.
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Now living in a faith-based treatment center, Ramkissoon says she knows it's difficult to comprehend how any mother could watch her son starve. She freely uses the word "crazy" to describe her actions, which were set in motion by her desire to provide a better home for her son.

"It's like it's somebody else's life, but it's not," Ramkissoon told The Associated Press in her first interview since Javon's death. "That is my life, and those are the choices that I've made and those were the fears that I dealt with, no matter how ridiculous they may be to somebody else."

For years, Ramkissoon clung to the belief that Javon would be resurrected, as Antoinette said he would. When Ramkissoon pleaded guilty to child abuse resulting in death, she insisted on a provision stating that her plea would be withdrawn if Javon came back to life.

Only since her release from custody last year has she fully let go of that belief, allowing her to properly mourn the boy who would have turned 6 on Saturday.

"None of that had to happen to him. He's in a house surrounded by people who are basically doing this to him," Ramkissoon said. "I felt like if anyone had a responsibility to him there that it was me, and I basically gave that up. So yeah, that's a difficult thing. To die and to suffer in that kind of way, that's not easy to have to swallow. That's something that I'm very much responsible for, as much as anybody else."

For much of her life, Ramkissoon has felt isolated and confused. She believed in God but didn't understand how to practice her faith, making her vulnerable to someone who claimed to have all the answers.

When she was 7, she left her native Trinidad to join her mother and a new American stepfather in Baltimore. Her mother is Hindu but didn't practice her religion in the United States.

Ramkissoon sought solace in Christianity, but became disillusioned with traditional churches. When she tried to read the Bible on her own, she was frustrated and sometimes threw it against the wall in anger.

Shortly after Ramkissoon graduated high school, she began dating a young troublemaker named Robert Thompson. He was her first boyfriend, and even when he ended up in jail, she insisted he was a good guy. He got her pregnant around her 18th birthday.

Thompson broke off the relationship before Javon was born. The only times he saw his son were through a plastic barrier at the Baltimore jail when Ramkissoon brought Javon for visits every Friday. Thompson was ultimately acquitted of charges including attempted murder.
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Javon's birth only intensified the pressure Ramkissoon felt.

She began training to be a pharmacy technician, but her heart wasn't in it. She didn't want to be away from her son, and she began to think her mother might take the infant away.

Around this time, she got an unexpected phone call from a high school friend, Tiffany Smith, who also had a baby. Smith said she wasn't working, allowing her to concentrate on her son and her faith. She said she was living in her "father's house," although it was clear she didn't mean her biological father.

Members of Antoinette's group took turns recruiting Ramkissoon. Though they were stingy with details about the arrangement, she was desperate, and their offer began to sound attractive.

"I had a really strong fear that (Javon) was going to get taken away from me if I didn't know what I was doing," she said, tears flowing. "That's kind of when I took things in my own hands."

In April 2006, Ramkissoon asked her mother to drive her and Javon to a park. She packed a few outfits and other supplies for him in a diaper bag. For herself, she brought nothing but the clothes she wore. Cult members met them and drove them to their home.

Ramkissoon stopped answering her cellphone, then turned it off and handed it over to Antoinette, who claimed her commands came directly from God. She and other members destroyed their identification documents. Antoinette took her shopping for clothing in the colors she said God favored: blue, white and khaki. Doctor visits were forbidden, and Smith gave birth to her second child — fathered by Antoinette's teenage son — at home, without medical care.

The group had a sole benefactor: Antoinette's boyfriend, Steven Bynum. He paid their rent and provided food and other necessities. No one else had a job.

Antoinette always made sure the kids had enough to eat and admonished followers who she thought were being neglectful.

But she seemed wary of Javon from the beginning, planting the seeds of doubt in Ramkissoon's mind. Out of the blue, she would say, "There's something wrong with that child." The boy's failure to say "amen" confirmed Antoinette's suspicions. She said Javon had a "spirit of rebellion" inside him, and that only fasting could exorcise it.

Antoinette represented herself at trial, and she acknowledged telling Ramkissoon not to feed Javon. But she characterized it as a "suggestion," not an order. The jury disagreed.

When Javon died in late 2006 or early 2007, Antoinette told her followers to pray for his resurrection. They packed the body into a suitcase. Ramkissoon sprayed it with disinfectant and stuffed the suitcase with fabric softener sheets to mask the odor.

After Javon's death, Bynum distanced himself from Antoinette and stopped paying the rent. The cult leader and her followers left Baltimore, the suitcase in tow.
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Antoinette continued to bend people to her will. She persuaded an elderly man to store some of their belongings, including the suitcase, in a shed behind his Philadelphia home. The cult moved to New York City, where Antoinette talked a man into kicking his wife and family out of his Brooklyn apartment and moving Antoinette and her followers in.

Back in Baltimore, Ramkissoon's mother was waging a futile battle to alert authorities. Seeta Khadan-Newton spoke to her daughter once, through an intercom at the building in Brooklyn. She said Ramkissoon sounded "like a zombie."

In court, Ramkissoon spoke in a quiet monotone, reciting the facts of the case without apparent feeling.

"I didn't feel anything for a long time," she told the AP.

Today, after more than a year in treatment, Ramkissoon has more life behind her eyes, and tears and laughter come easily. She dresses smartly and has a stylish short haircut. When she arrived, she told the center's staff that she didn't want to talk to anyone. Now she works as an intake coordinator, the first point of contact for incoming residents.

She's expected to finish this fall and hopes to enroll in college.

Edwin "Tito" Matos, Ramkissoon's pastor and the director of the treatment center, said the key to Ramkissoon's transformation was teaching her to think for herself. He would ask her to interpret Bible passages, giving her a Bible dictionary to aid her research.

When she realized that Antoinette had manipulated passages to support her commands, Ramkissoon would cry.

After several months, Ramkissoon began to open up about her experiences, and did a lot more crying. She began to realize that Javon died because of her own decisions, not because of God's will.

"It is difficult," she said, "because I don't think it's settled, fully, the weight of what was lost."
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I really don't care if I sound insensitive or not. When you have a child, that child becomes your number one priority, not religion, not a man, not a cult "queen," OR ANYTHING ELSE. Nothing comes before my child, and it will be that way until the day I die, which will be before my child dies, in the natural order of things. I DO believe in God, but the God I believe in does not condone letting a baby die because he doesn't say "amen." I'd like to strangle people like this "Queen" Antoinette. Doing anything just b/c it is in the name of religion does not make it right.
 
The bitch should have been sentenced to fry, no doubt about it. Or, more fittingly, starved to death.

Brain washed. Bullshit.
Abusive relationship/battered woman syndrome. Bullshit.

People who just don't want to be responsible for their own poor choices, Bulls EYE.

JMO.
 
She claims she was so caught up in this cult, brainwashed and had to obey the order to starve her child to death, lest she go to hell.
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Um. I am a mom, and I would risk hell to feed my child and keep her from starving to death. I cannot understand parents who would put the fear of the afterlife over the life of their own child. Boggles my mind. She killed her child; I would say that earns her a one-way ticket to the sinner BBQ.
 
princessgrandma said:
I really don't care if I sound insensitive or not. When you have a child, that child becomes your number one priority, not religion, not a man, not a cult "queen," OR ANYTHING ELSE. Nothing comes before my child, and it will be that way until the day I die, which will be before my child dies, in the natural order of things. I DO believe in God, but the God I believe in does not condone letting a baby die because he doesn't say "amen." I'd like to strangle people like this "Queen" Antoinette. Doing anything just b/c it is in the name of religion does not make it right.
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That sentiment goes against everything christians are taught. They believe God comes first, then others, then themselves. According to the bible God ordered Abraham to kill his own son to prove his faith. You're suppose to put God before all others, including your children. You can't be a true christian without putting God above all else. For this woman, she believed God wanted her to withhold food and water...she put too much faith in her advisor.

I'm an Athiest but I was raised in a very strict religion and I feel I have a bit of insight into how this woman felt. Most christians put too much faith into their preachers. They put them on a pedestal and follow their directions word for word. I witnessed a preacher tell a mother that she must allow a child molester to move back into her home after he abused her daughter because he sought forgivness and since God forgave him, she had to as well. She was told if she didn't, she would be condemning not only herself, but also her children to hell. She was devestated, hurt, and betrayed but her protective nature towards her children won over her faith in the church so she left.

My point is, I don't think this woman intentionally hurt her son. I believe that she believed she was doing was God wanted and that her son would be ok. Her crimes were commited out of ignorance, not out of malice. I still believe she should be convicted, but I feel sorrow for her rather than hate.
 
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That sentiment goes against everything christians are taught. They believe God comes first, then others, then themselves. According to the bible God ordered Abraham to kill his own son to prove his faith. You're suppose to put God before all others, including your children. You can't be a true christian without putting God above all else.
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I respect your opinion, [MENTION=2450]Obsolete[/MENTION], and your right to express it. That being said, I said I believe in God. Never said I was the perfect Christian. I'm not in church every time the doors are open but I was raised to believe that God does exist. I simply said what I would personally do and what I personally felt regarding my kids, which is probably why they're not beating the door down to get me back in there. Oh, well.
 
princessgrandma said:
I respect your opinion, [MENTION=2450]Obsolete[/MENTION], and your right to express it. That being said, I said I believe in God. Never said I was the perfect Christian. I'm not in church every time the doors are open but I was raised to believe that God does exist. I simply said what I would personally do and what I personally felt regarding my kids, which is probably why they're not beating the door down to get me back in there. Oh, well.
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You misunderstood me, I was referring to the woman in the article. Not you. When I was using the words "you're and you" I meant in general...not to be directed at one person in particular.
 
I think the "invisible dead ghost told me to do it by possessing a man 2,000+ years ago who wrote down the instructions for me, but who is still in the room watching me, waiting to reward or punish me if I don't do what he says" defense is a bit ridiculous and always has been. I mean, if you didn't call that ghost god or Jesus, they'd lock you up for having schizophrenia. Call him Mr. Poop Head = crazy, call him Yahweh = you're a prophet.
 
Deedee D said:
is she rotting in jail right now? Please say she got life! dumbass... thats all I can say!
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Somewhere in the 3 pages of this thread, the sentencing is indicated. I don't recall who got what in this clusterfuck but a few clicks and a skim read would figure it out.
 
Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.

Where knowledge ends, religion begins.

The most heinous and the most cruel crimes of which history has record have been committed under the cover of religion or equally noble motives.

The Bible and the Church have been the greatest stumbling blocks in the way of humanities progress...
 
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This happened a while back... I remember reading about it on another site... a creepy ass cult with creepy ass leaders, they starved that baby then put his remains in a suitcase and told everyone he "would be resurrected"
 
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