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A young girl has died after slipping from her grandfather's arms on the 11th deck of a cruise ship while it was docked in Puerto Rico, according to reports.

The child, who is believed to have been 18 months old, is understood to have fallen from the Freedom of the Seas ship onto the concrete port below.
Local media have said preliminary reports suggest the child was being carried by her grandfather who slipped and dropped the child overboard.

She was taken to hospital in San Juan following the incident on Sunday afternoon but was pronounced dead shortly after.

A statement from the Department of Public Security of Puerto Rico said: "We regret the sad event that occurred on the Freedom of the Seas cruise and we sympathised with the family of the girl who died."

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I'm surprised the windows open at all. There's a massive deck for people who wanna feel the breeze.

They don't even trust us to have windows we can open at my office, why you trusting a bunch of drunks and children with windows and not a bunch of most-sober adults?
 

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They stopped allowing opening windows on taller buildings after the great stock market crash. (and also the improvements in air conditioning)
I was a bit kidding about why us adults have lost our window privileges as my building is LEED certified so it's required, and offices don't want to deal with the temperature battle between coworkers anyway.

But windows on a cruise ship really shouldn't open like that because of dumbasses like this. And the air conditioning factor. You want fresh air? Go outside.
 

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I was a bit kidding about why us adults have lost our window privileges as my building is LEED certified so it's required, and offices don't want to deal with the temperature battle between coworkers anyway.

But windows on a cruise ship really shouldn't open like that because of dumbasses like this. And the air conditioning factor. You want fresh air? Go outside.
It sounds like it was from a private deck/balcony, or maybe a larger open deck area. I didn't see anything about a window in what I've read about it so far. (I read about it earlier before I saw the DD article.)
 

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It sounds like it was from a private deck/balcony, or maybe a larger open deck area. I didn't see anything about a window in what I've read about it so far. (I read about it earlier before I saw the DD article.)
After rereading the first article, you're right that it sounds like way. But other articles paint a very different picture of a drunk-ass or senile grandpa holding the kid out a window.

The 18-month-old girl was playing with her grandfather in a dining hall on deck 11 of the Freedom of the Seas, Port Authority spokesman José Carmona said. The dining area has large windows, and one pane was open.

The grandfather sat the girl in the window and lost his balance, and the girl fell to her death. "Sadly, she died on impact," Carmona said.

And this link has a picture of a window, and if that one is accurate they should have safety bars, be sealed shut, be casement style, something that's idiot proof.

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They stopped allowing opening windows on taller buildings after the great stock market crash. (and also the improvements in air conditioning)
That was a myth. All made up by journalists. Because blood and gore sells papers.
. Contrary to popular lore, there was no epidemic of suicides—let alone window-jumpings—in the wake of the Stock Market Crash of 1929. “In the United States the suicide wave that followed the stock market crash is also part of the legend of 1929. In fact, there was none,” wrote economist John Kenneth Galbraith in his book The Great Crash 1929.
 

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https://www.foxnews.com/us/family-in-shock-after-daughter-1-of-indiana-cop-dies-in-fall-from-cruise-ship-in-puerto-rico-reports-say.amp
. The South Bend Police Department said in a statement, as USA Todayreported, that the girl was the daughter of Officer Alan Wiegand: "The South Bend Police Department offers its sincerest condolences to Officer Alan Wiegand and his family during this difficult time following the tragic loss of their child while in Puerto Rico. The department asks the community to pray for the entire Wiegand family as they grieve and to respect their privacy."
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Way to ruin a vacation gramps.
You had one job...don't drop the kidlet.
Not just their family vacation. The other guests must be having a hard time
 
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I'm not blaming grandpa. Has anyone ever walked into a glass area thinking it was open. Yep, most of us have. YouTube is full of videos of people doing it. Hilarious, right? Yeah, until it's a toddler on a cruise ship falling to her death.

This was a child's play area. It should have been iron clad.
 

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The window probably should have been closed—that was likely a lapse on the ship’s part—but Grandpa also should have realized the window was open. Not only that, it seems rather irresponsible to let her bang on a window like that. The ice rink is one thing; I’m sure the “glass” she banged on there was super reinforced plexiglass, given that it’s meant to protect people from errant hockey pucks. I would never trust a window, on a cruise ship or otherwise, to withstand the banging blows of an exuberant toddler. I wouldn’t necessarily assume the kid would fall out the window; I’d likely be more concerned that s/he would get sliced up from the window cracking or shattering.
 

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It seems NO ONE has the ability to look a few minutes into the future to see the likely consequences of what they are doing at that moment.

Example: If you're taking a selfie with a moose, don't be surprised if the moose doesn't want it's picture made. But most people seem to think that rampaging moose, meese, whatever, are fake news. Couldn't happen to them, right?
 

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This is grandpa's fault. Obviously an accident, but one that could have been easily prevented. Don't sit a toddler on a window ledge, especially 11 stories high, especially if the window is open, most especially if you don't have a firm grip on her. Duh.

Grandpa fucked up. Tragic but true. This is not the fault of the cruise line.
 

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