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While I was away, I read an article about audio with "banging noises" and "screams," but it turned out to be bogus.

Fake audio of the Titan sub implosion is spreading online, but the Navy will probably never release the actual audio​


  • Fake audio supposedly depicting the Titan sub's underwater implosion is spreading across social media.
  • A spokesperson confirmed that the Navy hasn't publicly released recordings of the fatal incident.
  • It's unlikely the Navy will ever release the audio obtained through its secret monitoring systems.
 
This company must have really put on a good show. I feel like 99.9999999% that would have seen this submersible (not submarine) in person wouldn't have trusted it to get to the bottom of the deep end of their pool and back.

I mean, the owner/CEO was the pilot, so I get the amount of credibility that adds to it, but just look at the thing! Controlled by an aftermarket PlayStation controller!!
 
Extremely unsurprised that the usual voices furious that some mom they see as irresponsible receiving food stamps and costing a couple of thousand dollars to tax payers aren't just as furious about irresponsible (but wealthy) adventure travel companies and their customers costing tax payers millions?

"Compare this with the tragedy that happened in Europe with those immigrants who sank, and nobody cared too much,"

"... an incident last week when a ship sank in the Mediterranean Sea, leaving more than 500 migrants missing. According to Grenier, the search effort and media attention for that disaster were far more modest."

"A for-profit industry with government-funded rescues.
Now a massive government response is being led by the U.S. Coast Guard, using vessels, aircraft and remotely operated submersibles, or ROVs."

" A former Coast Guard commandant says that the massive search-and-rescue operation for the missing Titanic submersible will likely end up costing millions but that it would be unusual for the company running the vessel to have to pay the US back."

"The cost will be born almost entirely by taxpayers. OceanGate required passengers to sign liability waivers, and the company is unlikely to get a bill for this operation."

"Extreme Travel Rescue Operations Are Vast in Scale and Cost. Who Foots the Bill Is Murky."


So. Can anyone here justify the cost of the recovery response as opposed to not much interest in a rescue of 500 humans? Or why there isn't the same disgust and anger ove this recovery effort of a few wealthy people on a high risk adventure?
As opposed to people getting food to eat?

Truly, I am curious as to how one reasons out giving the wealthy a pass and and concern and thoughts and prayers, but that doesn't extend to other humans sinking to the bottom of the ocean?

No, those 500 migrants hadn't done anything illegal by leaving their country.
They hadn't landed illegally anywhere.

Yes, both the Titan and the overloaded boat were unsafe.

The U. S. spent millions recovering a Canadian based business, so let's not get stuck on country of origin responsibilities.

Why don't we blink when we spend millions like this?



 
Extremely unsurprised that the usual voices furious that some mom they see as irresponsible receiving food stamps and costing a couple of thousand dollars to tax payers aren't just as furious about irresponsible (but wealthy) adventure travel companies and their customers costing tax payers millions?

"Compare this with the tragedy that happened in Europe with those immigrants who sank, and nobody cared too much,"

"... an incident last week when a ship sank in the Mediterranean Sea, leaving more than 500 migrants missing. According to Grenier, the search effort and media attention for that disaster were far more modest."

"A for-profit industry with government-funded rescues.
Now a massive government response is being led by the U.S. Coast Guard, using vessels, aircraft and remotely operated submersibles, or ROVs."

" A former Coast Guard commandant says that the massive search-and-rescue operation for the missing Titanic submersible will likely end up costing millions but that it would be unusual for the company running the vessel to have to pay the US back."

"The cost will be born almost entirely by taxpayers. OceanGate required passengers to sign liability waivers, and the company is unlikely to get a bill for this operation."

"Extreme Travel Rescue Operations Are Vast in Scale and Cost. Who Foots the Bill Is Murky."


So. Can anyone here justify the cost of the recovery response as opposed to not much interest in a rescue of 500 humans? Or why there isn't the same disgust and anger ove this recovery effort of a few wealthy people on a high risk adventure?
As opposed to people getting food to eat?

Truly, I am curious as to how one reasons out giving the wealthy a pass and and concern and thoughts and prayers, but that doesn't extend to other humans sinking to the bottom of the ocean?

No, those 500 migrants hadn't done anything illegal by leaving their country.
They hadn't landed illegally anywhere.

Yes, both the Titan and the overloaded boat were unsafe.

The U. S. spent millions recovering a Canadian based business, so let's not get stuck on country of origin responsibilities.

Why don't we blink when we spend millions like this?




Cause the sub people didn’t do anything illegal. They didn’t illegally cross over to another country, so big business could have slave labor provided by the current administration, using the average citizens tax dollars. If this administration wants to provide slave labor for big business, they should at least charge corporations and not the average citizen. Why are my taxes used to pay for googles, facebook, apple janitorial services or charles Schwab’s or bill gates farm workers, not even going to mention the big construction donors
The 500 were not on the minnow and a pleasure cruise, intent was obviously to illegally disembark in a foreign country were they were not wanted
 
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Titanic Sub Owner Accused of Murder in Wild ‘60 Minutes Australia’ Interview: “Who Was the Last Person To Murder Two Billionaires at Once?”​

Who could’ve predicted the dangers of deep-sea tourism? It’s been a month since the Titanic submersible disaster, and now, 60 Minutes Australia has released a damning interview that includes interviews with submarine expert Karl Stanley, former OceanGate consultant Rob McCallum and OceanGate co-founder Guillermo Söhnlein, many of whom paint the incident as “preventable.”

Stanley, who appears the most irate about the incident, describes the exploration as a “mousetrap for billionaires,” which was nothing more than a “death wish” for all involved.

However, what many view as a monumental tragedy has been dismissed as something more devious by one person: Stanley, a friend of Rush who formerly tested the submersible. “Every three to four there were loud gunshot-like noises. That’s a heck of a sound to hear when you’re that far under the ocean,” he recalls about his prior experience.

Stanley tells 60 Minutes reporter Amelia Adams that he believes those noises were the carbon fiber hub cracking, which is essential for the submersible to avoid water penetration. He also provides evidence of heated emails and phone calls that he had with Rush about the faulty mechanics of the vessel.

“He [Rush] definitely knew it was going to end like this. He quite literally, and figuratively went out with the biggest bang in human history,” Stanley boldly proclaims. “Who was the last person to murder two billionaires at once, and have them pay for the privilege? I think Stockton was designing a mousetrap for billionaires.”
 

Coast Guard recovers Titan sub wreckage and more ‘presumed human remains’​

Additional “presumed human remains” and the final pieces of the doomed Titan submersible were plucked from the depths of the Atlantic Ocean last week, officials announced Tuesday.

Marine safety engineers for the US Coast Guard [USCG] recovered several parts of the wreckage, including the 22-foot vessel’s intact titanium endcap, from the ocean floor Wednesday.

The artifacts were located roughly 1,600 feet from the Titanic, the submersible’s destination when it imploded in June, killing all five passengers on board.

“Additional presumed human remains were carefully recovered from within Titan’s debris and transported for analysis by US medical professionals,” USCG said in a statement.

The salvage mission was the second, and likely final, to the watery grave. Previoulsy other human remains and pieces of the Titan were recovered ten days after it imploded on June 18.
 

Family of explorer who died on doomed Titanic submersible seeks $50M in wrongful death suit​

The family of a Titanic explorer who was among those killed in last year’s submersible implosion has slapped a $50 million wrongful death lawsuit on the doomed sub’s operator.

Paul-Henri Nargeolet, 77, was one of five people aboard the Titan submersible when it suddenly imploded en route to the famed wreck site at the bottom of the North Atlantic in June 2023.

The veteran underwater explorer’s family have now accused the submersible’s owner – OceanGate — of gross negligence, alleging the “doomed” vessel had a “troubled history.”
 

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