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Two Tennessee elementary substitute teachers, who are also a couple, were cited for prostitution after police completed an undercover operation, with one saying they did it for extra money for several years or they’d “starve.”

Ezra Fry, 22, and David Acevedo, 25, who both work in Hamilton County Schools, were caught in August.

Police began the undercover sting when one officer reached out to Fry on “an illicit prostitution website” posing as a “john” looking to set up a sexual encounter, according to WTVC, citing a police report.

Fry, who uses they/them pronouns, responded by saying it would cost $150 and sharing what they would and wouldn’t do.

During the exchange, Fry allegedly told the undercover cop, they usually go to the client’s house but insisted it was safer to do it at their home because their husband would be present and it was the “john’s” first time.

Fry then led the officer to a back bedroom and took his money before the cop identified himself and detained the couple.

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I have to say.. I really hate journalism that intentionally uses someone's proximity to children to make their crime sound *worse*.

The angle of the story seems to be "can you believe we allowed these two around children?" when it should be "can you believe substitute teachers are paid so little that these two decided to prostitute themselves for money to survive?"

Meanwhile, my local high school can't afford substitute teachers, so my kid's learning Spanish from a science teacher while the actual teacher is out sick. Subs are in high demand right now - but what are they earning?
 
I have to say.. I really hate journalism that intentionally uses someone's proximity to children to make their crime sound *worse*.

The angle of the story seems to be "can you believe we allowed these two around children?" when it should be "can you believe substitute teachers are paid so little that these two decided to prostitute themselves for money to survive?"

Meanwhile, my local high school can't afford substitute teachers, so my kid's learning Spanish from a science teacher while the actual teacher is out sick. Subs are in high demand right now - but what are they earning?
$25 A B... Oh! No enough!
 
God damn people will pay for anything. Ol David definitely looks like he jerks it in the closet while guys do shit to Ezra they wouldn't do to a fucking farm animal.
 
I have to say.. I really hate journalism that intentionally uses someone's proximity to children to make their crime sound *worse*.
That's really odd. I didn't get that vibe at all. It's pretty typical to mention what people do for a living when they are charged with crime. That someone happens to be a teacher, cop, pastor, doctor, ice cream man, etc. is almost always relevant when they are assuming someone who should be upheld to a level of trust around others, especially if those "others" are more vulnerable.
 
If I had children, I would not want any person or couple who looked like that around my children. And for such clowns to be teaching kids at all?

iu


These are the exact type of people whom you can judge based on the way they look. I have no doubt that these they/thems chalk up their prostitution to being "empowered" and "liberating" and "having agency over our bodies". It's all a self-serving crock. Yes, it may be technically true that "sex work is work", but that quoted phrase is used as a slogan meant to gloss over the seediness, oft-criminality, and moral decay of doing such a thing, not to mention how the phrase does ultimately show support for sex trafficking and societal oversexualization.

If anyone is a combination of being so desperate, uncreative, and unmarketable that they willfully decide to prostitute themselves to pay their bills, then I really can't feel sorry for their plight. Their excuse that they would otherwise "starve" even seems disingenuous, considering how these two most absolutely run with a crowd that ideologically centers itself on its own perceived perpetual victimhood. And the fact that they pair(ed) prostitution with being substitute teachers of children and/or teenagers is disgusting.

No, I'm not assuming that they were interested in involving the students with such activity; I am assuming, unless evidence is uncovered to the contrary, that the substitute teaching and the prostitution were treated as two separate aspects of their lives. But even factoring in such separation, it is still a poor precedent and example to set for society, because if there is ever any occasion where a person's work with a school (paid or volunteer, one example of the latter being a parental chaperone and/or active parent of a student athlete) ends up converging contextually with their unusual sex life, it almost always turns out to be a scandal due to the simple fact that the people at the center of such work with minors. These two aspects of societal contribution, simply put, do not mesh together, and the parent or teacher's involvement at schools will inevitably carry baggage, judgment from others, and/or a shady reputation with them if they continue to be an active presence with the school.

So, instead of prostitution, what are other valid options? Too many to count. They include, but are not limited to:

1. Apply for traditional second jobs, even if part-time, until one is found.
2. Become an entrepreneur with a legitimate and legal good, trade, or service.
3. Find a job/career that pays better than the substitute teacher gig, and move on to that one.
4. Sell stuff, such as instruments or furniture, that has noteworthy financial value and that is no longer needed nor wanted around the household.

Any of those four options beat the hell out of prostitution.

More importantly, who amidst Hamilton County Schools hired these people, and why? They both have an obnoxiously aggressive SJW aesthetic that they probably borrowed from TikTok, and scandals such as this are the exact reason why People Who Look Like That; people who actively embrace tacky physical ugliness, social media-hazed grandiosity of the self, and endless self-justification for their own mediocrity and crappy decisions, all simply for the sake of conceitedly thinking of themselves as nonconformists; should not be in any position of trust.

iu
 
If I had children, I would not want any person or couple who looked like that around my children. And for such clowns to be teaching kids at all?

iu


These are the exact type of people whom you can judge based on the way they look. I have no doubt that these they/thems chalk up their prostitution to being "empowered" and "liberating" and "having agency over our bodies". It's all a self-serving crock. Yes, it may be technically true that "sex work is work", but that quoted phrase is used as a slogan meant to gloss over the seediness, oft-criminality, and moral decay of doing such a thing, not to mention how the phrase does ultimately show support for sex trafficking and societal oversexualization.

If anyone is a combination of being so desperate, uncreative, and unmarketable that they willfully decide to prostitute themselves to pay their bills, then I really can't feel sorry for their plight. Their excuse that they would otherwise "starve" even seems disingenuous, considering how these two most absolutely run with a crowd that ideologically centers itself on its own perceived perpetual victimhood. And the fact that they pair(ed) prostitution with being substitute teachers of children and/or teenagers is disgusting.

No, I'm not assuming that they were interested in involving the students with such activity; I am assuming, unless evidence is uncovered to the contrary, that the substitute teaching and the prostitution were treated as two separate aspects of their lives. But even factoring in such separation, it is still a poor precedent and example to set for society, because if there is ever any occasion where a person's work with a school (paid or volunteer, one example of the latter being a parental chaperone and/or active parent of a student athlete) ends up converging contextually with their unusual sex life, it almost always turns out to be a scandal due to the simple fact that the people at the center of such work with minors. These two aspects of societal contribution, simply put, do not mesh together, and the parent or teacher's involvement at schools will inevitably carry baggage, judgment from others, and/or a shady reputation with them if they continue to be an active presence with the school.

So, instead of prostitution, what are other valid options? Too many to count. They include, but are not limited to:

1. Apply for traditional second jobs, even if part-time, until one is found.
2. Become an entrepreneur with a legitimate and legal good, trade, or service.
3. Find a job/career that pays better than the substitute teacher gig, and move on to that one.
4. Sell stuff, such as instruments or furniture, that has noteworthy financial value and that is no longer needed nor wanted around the household.

Any of those four options beat the hell out of prostitution.

More importantly, who amidst Hamilton County Schools hired these people, and why? They both have an obnoxiously aggressive SJW aesthetic that they probably borrowed from TikTok, and scandals such as this are the exact reason why People Who Look Like That; people who actively embrace tacky physical ugliness, social media-hazed grandiosity of the self, and endless self-justification for their own mediocrity and crappy decisions, all simply for the sake of conceitedly thinking of themselves as nonconformists; should not be in any position of trust.

iu
More importantly, who amidst Hamilton County Schools hired these people, and why? They both have an obnoxiously aggressive SJW aesthetic that they probably borrowed from TikTok, and scandals such as this are the exact reason why People Who Look Like That; people who actively embrace tacky physical ugliness, social media-hazed grandiosity of the self, and endless self-justification for their own mediocrity and crappy decisions, all simply for the sake of conceitedly thinking of themselves as nonconformists; should not be in any position of trust.

@Symmachus ! Maybe it's simply that they got dressed in the dark... And should've stayed there.
 
More importantly, who amidst Hamilton County Schools hired these people, and why? They both have an obnoxiously aggressive SJW aesthetic that they probably borrowed from TikTok, and scandals such as this are the exact reason why People Who Look Like That; people who actively embrace tacky physical ugliness, social media-hazed grandiosity of the self, and endless self-justification for their own mediocrity and crappy decisions, all simply for the sake of conceitedly thinking of themselves as nonconformists; should not be in any position of trust.

@Symmachus ! Maybe it's simply that they got dressed in the dark... And should've stayed there.

Blue hair dye lasts 6-8 shampoos.

And it looks as though Tennessee has a stipulation in their teachers contracts-
--No piercings expect in the ears.


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I'm concerned about low pay for teachers.

Montana, for example, has high average rents and energy bills, and a teachers salary, after just those two costs, leaves $3,000 left over.

That means $250 left per month for food, clothing, car costs, and perhaps, that average student loan paynent of $290 a month.

That's a bigger problem, to me at least, than blue hair or victimless acts prostitution.

And I feel very badly for these two.

ETA:
Found salaries where they are..

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And for TN Walmarts
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Well, that's just super, isn't it?
 
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