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Sinead O'Connor has died at the age of 56 after years of mental health battles, her 'devastated' family confirmed.

The Irish singer shot to stardom across the world in 1990 by her heartrending cover of Prince's Nothing Compares 2 U.

It comes a year after the mother-of-four's son Shane, 17, took his life in January 2022 after escaping hospital while on suicide watch.

At the time of her death, the musician, who changed her name to Shuhada' Sadaqat in 2018 when she converted to Islam, was thought to be spending her time between Co Roscommon, Ireland, and London.

In her last Tweet, O'Connor posted a photo of Shane and said: 'Been living as undead night creature since. He was the love of my life, the lamp of my soul.

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Her poor kids had to grow up with their mothers very pronounced mental illness. That cant have helped the mental state of her son very much.

I don't know if she ever accepted just how mentally unwell she was. She mentioned suicide frequently, she lost custody of her son because she wasnt fit to care for him, she did that weird thing where she begged for anal sex, said the most odd shit during interviews for all the world to see. Up and decided she and her kids were Muslim and said she rest of us were disgusting. I don't doubt her son had a very tough time of it from other kids.

It's sad she didn't get appropriate help or that the help wasnt enough to get her well.

She was incredibly talented and so very, very broken.
 
Her poor kids had to grow up with their mothers very pronounced mental illness. That cant have helped the mental state of her son very much.

I don't know if she ever accepted just how mentally unwell she was. She mentioned suicide frequently, she lost custody of her son because she wasnt fit to care for him, she did that weird thing where she begged for anal sex, said the most odd shit during interviews for all the world to see. Up and decided she and her kids were Muslim and said she rest of us were disgusting. I don't doubt her son had a very tough time of it from other kids.

It's sad she didn't get appropriate help or that the help wasnt enough to get her well.

She was incredibly talented and so very, very broken.
Right. If anything, she projected her misery onto her kids without meaning to. The fathers I think had all 4 of her kids. Like Dana Plato, she shouldn’t have been a mother, because she wasn’t fit to.
 
Gentle but tortured soul finally at rest.

She was a very gifted musician with an awful trauma complex that defined her life and personhood. She contributed so much to the world, and was a diamond in the music world's rough. And no person at all should lose a child (with the possible exception of an extremely elderly person whose son or daughter lives a full, unabridged life in their own right; even then, it's no less painful for that person in their, say, 90s or 100s).

I have a substantial taste for traditional folk music, and an album I believe is culturally successful is that of Sean-Nós Nua, which O'Connor released in 2002, of traditional Irish tunes. One of my favorite songs from that album is "Óró Sé do Bheatha 'Bhaile", a traditional Irish war song (shown below). By releasing an album such as this, it is my opinion that O'Connor was not only a talented musician, but also a full appreciator of music history and its roots. She was willing to take risks with her musical direction and creativity, as well as her music career (as evidenced by her fiasco on SNL). This folk album risk excellently paid off, in my subjective opinion, and furthered, as intended, highly important folk traditions via music that can often be lost or overlooked. Another risk she took was making a reggae album titled Throw Down Your Arms, which I thought was okay but missed the mark.



Another peer of hers from the British Isles is Morrissey. He's another fellow maverick, critically thinking, often-controversial spirit who has made his career from the music industry. He condemns much of the general response to Sinead O'Connor, because he perceives many of the mourners as having not cared enough about her in life, even having mocked and vituperated her; and are now overcompensating for self-serving reasons in death. I believe his take is worth examining and comes from a truly heartfelt and genuine standpoint.


For someone to have the multiplicity of issues she had, it is easy to dismiss someone like her as "crazy", "dramatic", "bipolar", "unstable" etc., and to just not want to touch that with a pole of any size. If a person with these issues and carried trauma, yet with such generosity of spirit, was in your life and your community, how would you act? Would you care about their perspective and make them feel fully human? Or drop them like a hot potato and rationalize that it's "not your problem"? Because if someone has problems that you do not understand or experience, and you are acutely aware of these unrelatable-to-you issues in their life, and they are of no threat nor encumbrance nor intrusion to you, is it really the right decision to turn your back in haste and judgement simply because they're "a little off" or "make you uncomfortable" or you "don't want to deal with that right now"? Is your comfort or convenience really more important than their crises and time of need?

Sure, you do not have to prioritize their issues as your own, and you must leave enough room for yourself; and you definitely do not have to make such priority for a person who proves themselves to be threatening, abusive, or parasitic. But scoffing, malice, and carrying yourself toward a person in crisis as if you possess God's judgement can cause more ruination and trauma, and that's even more of a burden for them to carry in life when all they wanted was a friend.

And if you are this person in crisis, there is no shame in reaching out and confiding in someone; in seeking resources and experiences that can improve yourself, your outlook, your hope for the future, and that perhaps inspire others.

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The world is now hollower and colder without you. Thank you, Sinead. People love you because nobody and nothing compares to you.
 
After Sinead O’Conner tore up the photo of the Pope on SNL Joe Pesci stated that he would’ve “given her such a smack”
I wonder if he ate his words when he found out about the rampant pedophilia and coverups? Nobody ever gave her credit or an apology for the treatment of her after that incident. She seemed like an intelligent person who was deeply thoughtful and sensitive, which can be a very dangerous combination. Awareness of the state of the world coupled with overwhelming empathy and worry is a terrible curse. I wish her peace on her journey.
 
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