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A reclusive tribe in the Amazon finally got hooked up to the internet, thanks to Elon Musk — only to be torn apart by social media and pornography addiction, elders complain.

Brazil’s 2,000-member Marubo tribe has been left bitterly divided by the arrival of the Tesla founder’s Starlink service nine months ago, which connected the remote rainforest community along the Ituí River to the web for the first time.

“When it arrived, everyone was happy,” Tsainama Marubo, 73, told The New York Times. “But now, things have gotten worse. Young people have gotten lazy because of the internet, they’re learning the ways of the white people.”

The Marubo are a chaste tribe, who even frown upon kissing in public — but Alfredo Marubo (all Marubo use the same last name) said he is anxious that the arrival of the service, which delivers super-fast internet to far-flung corners of the planet and has been billed as a game-changer by Musk, could upend standards of decorum.

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"they're learning the ways of the white people" -those damn white people, always corrupting the innocent! OR people of any color or creed are really just naturally curious and horny and complete "dirty birds" now they have access to it, instead of scenarios played out in their minds they are playing out on a screen for anyone to see, damn those white people lolol
 
It's not Elon Musk's fault, it wasn't his intention to disrupt thus society but this really sucks.

"they're learning the ways of the white people"

They are located in Northwest Brazil, over the border from Peru.

"Marubo contact with whites started with Peruvians who were seeking gum trees in the early 1800s."

They're too far west to ever have had contacts with any people from the African slave trade.

In their world, you're either Marubo, or you're an outsider. It's a catch-all phrase to describe non-Marubo.
It correlates to the term "outsider" more than a skin color.

In Israel, the man I worked for used to call my best friend "black".
She was from South India. To me, she wasn't "Black" even though she had dark skin.
I was operating under the idea that the world only called Africans black.


Seeing what Tsainama Marubo said thru a North American lens leads to the wrong impression of what she meant.

Don't forget to curse that African American man that gave them internet!!!!!

Al Gore isn't Black! Silly man. :penguin:
 
This is all the more reason the North Sentinelese tribe kills anyone who lands on their shores and do not want to be contacted or have anything to do with the outside world Very wise people.
I have studied (what little is available) the North Sentinelese and absolutely love them. I think they are the last, that we know of, that are 100% to themselves and unconnected to the rest of the world.
 
I have studied (what little is available) the North Sentinelese and absolutely love them. I think they are the last, that we know of, that are 100% to themselves and unconnected to the rest of the world.
I bet this is probably the only place in the world that was not affected by disasters like the stock market crash, world wars, COVID-19, etc. Their island is most forest and looks like paradise. No wonder they don't want outsiders coming in, tracking their mud.
 
Terrible idea. Not just to introduce the internet to an uncontacted tribe, but to also perhaps invent the internet in the first place (I state, while posting this comment on the internet).

I don't want this to be a critical but reactive comment of "I hate where this is going, but that's the way of the world these days, I guess." I don't want this comment to be one big shrug.

The internet is one of the greatest pinnacles of human mediocrity ever conceived. There is so much that can, and has been, done with the internet; but all that some people do with it is "look up pictures of kitties and titties". Or maybe watch cheap anime. Or share empty memes. Or glue themselves to social media in a way that makes them oscillate between dopamine microrushes from "likes" and getting in piss-fights with people who disagree with them. (EDIT: And swimming idly through celebrity gossip.) Basically, do anything that makes them comfortable and gratified and mildly amused; while their rights and potentiality of achievement greatly suffer.

One of my favorite podcasters mentioned, in response to this situation with the Marubo tribe; that any society that utilizes the internet does not use it merely as a tool, but centralizes itself around the internet. And because of the damage that the internet has caused the world (with one aspect of this damage being unmitigated and unregulated porn access and distribution) while still being a useful thing, I hope to live long enough to see a post-internet society. Most people would look at the phrase "post-internet" and think that it means "after the arrival and social instilling of the internet"; in this instance, I mean it as "after the internet declines and diminishes in widespread relevance". I think that there would be no shortage of benefits to the world not just de-internetizing itself, but also re-primitivizing itself.

Failing such a tall order as described in the last paragraph, I hope to, at least for myself, start having weekly instances of internet abstinence. I am able to do it once here and once there, and I always appreciate when I can (i.e. anytime I go camping). Reserving one or two days a week, every week, to stay offline could really do wonders for productivity in other aspects of life. I would like to start doing something like that while it is still the 2020s.

In October 2022, I went camping in the mountains several hours north of my locale. I did several hikes, set a few campfires, and enjoyed the amazing, remote outdoors. I camped in a spot roughly halfway between a town of 900 and a town of 40, which were about 40 miles separate from each other. One of the best aspects about the camping trip was that I spent five overnights without having used internet, with phone connectivity being nonexistent at the sight, but only coming in anytime I visited the bigger town. As awesome as that experience was, what would it have been like for ancient peoples to live their whole daily lives in more technologically, resourcefully, and infrastructurally restricted ways (or at least the way such a thing is conventionally understood as such)?

More people, myself included, should adjust themselves toward adapting to the prospect of their internet disappearing, perhaps for longer stretches. Humanity was okay before it came around. Wiring every home to an overlording database and several megalithic databases therein has, for many reasons, made us less okay.

 
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Terrible idea. Not just to introduce the internet to an uncontacted tribe, but to also perhaps invent the internet in the first place (I state, while posting this comment on the internet).

I don't want this to be a critical but reactive comment of "I hate where this is going, but that's the way of the world these days, I guess." I don't want this comment to be one big shrug.

The internet is one of the greatest pinnacles of human mediocrity ever conceived. There is so much that can, and has been, done with the internet; but all that some people do with it is "look up pictures of kitties and titties". Or maybe watch cheap anime. Or share empty memes. Or glue themselves to social media in a way that makes them oscillate between dopamine microrushes from "likes" and getting in piss-fights with people who disagree with them. (EDIT: And swimming idly through celebrity gossip.) Basically, do anything that makes them comfortable and gratified and mildly amused; while their rights and potentiality of achievement greatly suffer.

One of my favorite podcasters mentioned, in response to this situation with the Marubo tribe; that any society that utilizes the internet does not use it merely as a tool, but centralizes itself around the internet. And because of the damage that the internet has caused the world (with one aspect of this damage being unmitigated and unregulated porn access and distribution) while still being a useful thing, I hope to live long enough to see a post-internet society. Most people would look at the phrase "post-internet" and think that it means "after the arrival and social instilling of the internet"; in this instance, I mean it as "after the internet declines and diminishes in widespread relevance". I think that there would be no shortage of benefits to the world not just de-internetizing itself, but also re-primitivizing itself.

Failing such a tall order as described in the last paragraph, I hope to, at least for myself, start having weekly instances of internet abstinence. I am able to do it once here and once there, and I always appreciate when I can (i.e. anytime I go camping). Reserving one or two days a week, every week, to stay offline could really do wonders for productivity in other aspects of life. I would like to start doing something like that while it is still the 2020s.

In October 2022, I went camping in the mountains several hours north of my locale. I did several hikes, set a few campfires, and enjoyed the amazing, remote outdoors. I camped in a spot roughly halfway between a town of 900 and a town of 40, which were about 40 miles separate from each otr. One of the best aspects about the camping trip was that I spent five overnights without having used internet, with phone connectivity being nonexistent at the sight, but only coming in anytime I visited the bigger town. As awesome as that experience was, what would it have been like for ancient peoples to live their whole daily lives in more technologically, resourcefully, and infrastructurally restricted ways (or at least the way such a thing is conventionally understood as such)?

More people, myself included, should adjust themselves toward adapting to the prospect of their internet disappearing, perhaps for longer stretches. Humanity was okay before it came around. Wiring every home to an overlording database and several megalithic databases therein has, for many reasons, made us less okay.


There's been something wrong with my internet since the first day of June and my cable company can't seem to fix it. I can still get online, but can't do very much at all.

At first I was really upset about it, but now I've kind of gotten used to spending less time online, and I like it. I discovered that I can live without social media (which is 90% BS anyway) and even TV. I've been getting things done outside and in the house and I'm spending a lot more time with the cats.

So, @Symmacchus, I agree with you 100%!
 
There's been something wrong with my internet since the first day of June and my cable company can't seem to fix it. I can still get online, but can't do very much at all.

At first I was really upset about it, but now I've kind of gotten used to spending less time online, and I like it. I discovered that I can live without social media (which is 90% BS anyway) and even TV. I've been getting things done outside and in the house and I'm spending a lot more time with the cats.

So, @Symmacchus, I agree with you 100%!
Who is your service provider?
 
Service Electric in PA.
The reviews really suck for them. I wanted to look at the plans they offer and their website wouldn't load for me about 20 minutes ago. I worked for Cox Communications for 5 years, they did a great job training how to troubleshoot problems like this. I'm curious how many times they have been out and what they have done so far to troubleshoot it?
 
Who is your service provider?
Are you asking her about where she's gettin' it? Cable!
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The reviews really suck for them. I wanted to look at the plans they offer and their website wouldn't load for me about 20 minutes ago. I worked for Cox Communications for 5 years, they did a great job training how to troubleshoot problems like this. I'm curious how many times they have been out and what they have done so far to troubleshoot it?
Service Electric... just tried it.

'Site temporarily unavailable. Connection timed out - please try again.'

Have you considered moving to the Amazon?
 
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There's been something wrong with my internet since the first day of June and my cable company can't seem to fix it. I can still get online, but can't do very much at all.

At first I was really upset about it, but now I've kind of gotten used to spending less time online, and I like it. I discovered that I can live without social media (which is 90% BS anyway) and even TV. I've been getting things done outside and in the house and I'm spending a lot more time with the cats.

So, @Symmacchus, I agree with you 100%!
i can easily live without t.v. but internet except for d.d. i use to learn new things, read news etc and most of all e-books from the library as it is hard to get to one ... i love e-books because my reader weighs much less than a paper back book :)
 
The reviews really suck for them. I wanted to look at the plans they offer and their website wouldn't load for me about 20 minutes ago. I worked for Cox Communications for 5 years, they did a great job training how to troubleshoot problems like this. I'm curious how many times they have been out and what they have done so far to troubleshoot it?
Yeah, they suck, but they’re the only cable game in town right now. The town signed a contract with them years ago making them a monopoly. But that was overturned recently and Optimum and Infinity are supposed to be available sometime this year. Verizon internet is available, but FIOS isn’t. The only service they offer at my house is DSL, and I refuse to go back to that.
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The reviews really suck for them. I wanted to look at the plans they offer and their website wouldn't load for me about 20 minutes ago. I worked for Cox Communications for 5 years, they did a great job training how to troubleshoot problems like this. I'm curious how many times they have been out and what they have done so far to troubleshoot it?
Today will be the third time they’ve been out. The first guy ran a new line from the street to the house, and the second guy swapped out the modem. After he did that, everything was working perfectly until Sunday when my router died. I replaced it and hooked up the new one and my devices see the new router, but the internet is running at the speed of sludge.
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Are you asking her about where she's gettin' it? Cable!
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Service Electric... just tried it.

'Site temporarily unavailable. Connection timed out - please try again.'

Have you considered moving to the Amazon?
Yeah, I can watch porn with the tribe and get back on social media. :D
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i can easily live without t.v. but internet except for d.d. i use to learn new things, read news etc and most of all e-books from the library as it is hard to get to one ... i love e-books because my reader weighs much less than a paper back book :)
Surprisingly, I can still read e-books on my phone during all this. But I like sports and now I can’t get them. As you always say @runninfawn, grrrrrrrrr!
 
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Yeah, they suck, but they’re the only cable game in town right now. The town signed a contract with them years ago making them a monopoly. But that was overturned recently and Optimum and Infinity are supposed to be available sometime this year. Verizon internet is available, but FIOS isn’t. The only service they offer at my house is DSL, and I refuse to go back to that.
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Today will be the third time they’ve been out. The first guy ran a new line from the street to the house, and the second guy swapped out the modem. After he did that, everything was working perfectly until Sunday when my router died. I replaced it and hooked up the new one and my devices see the new router, but the internet is running at the speed of sludge.
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Yeah, I can watch porn with the tribe and get back on social media. :D
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Surprisingly, I can still read e-books on my phone during all this. But I like sports and now I can’t get them. As you always say @runninfawn, grrrrrrrrr!
The first tech was good. Cable lines don't last forever. After a few years the ends where the connectors are will degrade. When that happens interference from signal ingress can happen. When Verizon rolled out their LTE service in Phoenix it created a lot of troubleshooting calls cause the HD food channel would pixilate for a lot of people. Both, the LTE and the food channel are on 747 mhz. We'd use a meter to find which cable line had ingress, replace it and the food channel would be clear again. The lazy techs would cable box swap and move on to the next job.

The routers have multiple channels, your slow speed probably could be resolved by changing which channel it is on. I'd get these types of calls, sometimes they would have a cordless phone that would create the issue.
 
The first tech was good. Cable lines don't last forever. After a few years the ends where the connectors are will degrade. When that happens interference from signal ingress can happen. When Verizon rolled out their LTE service in Phoenix it created a lot of troubleshooting calls cause the HD food channel would pixilate for a lot of people. Both, the LTE and the food channel are on 747 mhz. We'd use a meter to find which cable line had ingress, replace it and the food channel would be clear again. The lazy techs would cable box swap and move on to the next job.

The routers have multiple channels, your slow speed probably could be resolved by changing which channel it is on. I'd get these types of calls, sometimes they would have a cordless phone that would create the issue.
How can I change channels on the router? I can’t find a way to do that. I think 1, 11, and 16 (?) are the best channels, but I can’t google right now. The router is a TP-Link.
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How can I change channels on the router? I can’t find a way to do that. I think 1, 11, and 16 (?) are the best channels, but I can’t google right now. The router is a TP-Link.View attachment 110802View attachment 110802
TP-Link has the setup instructions online. Do you have a desktop or laptop for the web configuration page access or is it cellphones and tablets? As far as the channels, try each one then run a speed test. I use speedtest.net
 
I have a laptop I can use for that.
TP-Link has the setup instructions online. Do you have a desktop or laptop for the web configuration page access or is it cellphones and tablets? As far as the channels, try each one then run a speed test. I use speedtest.net
 
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