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Turd Fergusen

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An exhausted carriage horse collapsed during the evening rush hour in Manhattan on Wednesday — lying on the asphalt while his driver repeatedly struck him and ordered him to “get up.”

The animal’s knees buckle in video footage as the driver jerks the reins and slaps the horse in an attempt to make it stand on 9th Avenue and West 45th Street in Hell’s Kitchen.

“Get up! Get up! Get up! C’mon, get up,” the frustrated driver commanded as traffic backed up on the busy avenue around 5 p.m.

Onlookers were disturbed by the flogging.

“What if I slapped you around like that, bro?” one concerned bystander asked.

“Stop slapping him,” another woman was heard pleading.

“I’m trying to get him up, alright,” the driver said, as he whipped the horse with the reins twice.

The dejected horse then laid down on its side and rested his head on the street as the driver removed his carriage with the help of a pedestrian.

A group of police officers then arrived and were filmed dousing the horse with water, finally getting him on his feet after more than an hour, according to video and witnesses.

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Seems they do have a lot of rules for the care of the horses. I’m not for or against, however you’ll always have the tree huggers that see everything as abuse of animals

TWU Local 100 President Tony Utano sent W42ST the following statement: “We thank everyone for their concern about Ryder, one of the beloved Central Park carriage horses. The veterinarian believes Ryder has EPM, a neurological disease caused by possum droppings. This is another example why people shouldn’t rush to judgement about our horses or the blue-collar men and women who choose to work with them and care for them. Sadly, horses — like people — can get sick.”

 
I'm guessing, ONLY GUESSING, that the driver was trying to get he horse up and out of the way and they were kind of panicking about it. The optics suck, but as pointed out, no one knew what was happening to the horse and one would presume the guy wasn't trying to kill the horse, or his job. But it would have been horrible to witness! :oops:
 
Seems they do have a lot of rules for the care of the horses. I’m not for or against, however you’ll always have the tree huggers that see everything as abuse of animals

TWU Local 100 President Tony Utano sent W42ST the following statement: “We thank everyone for their concern about Ryder, one of the beloved Central Park carriage horses. The veterinarian believes Ryder has EPM, a neurological disease caused by possum droppings. This is another example why people shouldn’t rush to judgement about our horses or the blue-collar men and women who choose to work with them and care for them. Sadly, horses — like people — can get sick.”

A well-trained and cared for horse doesn't need to be "flogged".

That's utter bullshit. That horse was in pain and discomfort.

"Tree-hugger" does not equate to ones anger over incompetent and inhumane equine stewardship.

I don't give a Goddamn what the Transport Union Workers (TWU) said in their "statement".

And "possum droppings" ?
In their feed?

This is what loved horses look like. Boy on the left died last month of an an aneurysm at 22.
Not collapsing in a street in New York City, not contaminated food, not from being flogged.
He was a good boy.
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He was hauled off at the cost of $1,050. A day at the ranch.
(This was my best friend's horse, not mine. She's digging out her old piping to her septic tank and replacing it. On her own. Hand to shovel and her tractor. She doesn't have time to hug trees, but she cried at this story. And she voted for Trump. The first time. She's the widow of a cop and an ex-Marine, and she worked for the DOD. She's no tree hugger, but she knows abuse when SHE sees it. )
 
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The sick carriage horse that collapsed on a busy Manhattan street won’t be sold off or euthanized as a result, a stable employee insisted to The Post on Thursday.

The horse, named Ryder, spent the night at the West Side Livery stables on West 38th Street after he was filmed lying in the middle of the street in Hell’s Kitchen as his driver repeatedly struck him and ordered him to “get up.”
Christina Hansen, a carriage driver who works at the stable, told The Post it was “highly unlikely” the 14-year-old horse would be put down or sold off following Wednesday’s caught-on-camera ordeal.

“He’s not going to be sold,” the top hat-wearing Hansen said, adding that she’d spoken to the horse’s owner earlier Thursday.
Ryder was examined by a veterinarian after being brought back to the stable by the NYPD’s mounted unit following his collapse — and the diagnosis was Equine Protozoal Myeloencephalitis, a neurological disease caused by possum droppings, Hansen said.

Hansen said it was unlikely the horse would be put back to work immediately because he’ll need treatment for EPM.
It would be irresponsible,” Hansen, who is also a union shop steward, said of having him lug a carriage right away.

“We have all the time in the world. We’ll do what’s right by the horse. He’s going to be treated and we’ll figure out one of the best places for him to retire to,” she added.
 
The struggling carriage horse that collapsed on a busy Manhattan street earlier this month was malnourished, underweight — and much older than previously reported, a police report obtained by The Post shows.
The steed, named Ryder, was examined by a veterinarian in the wake of the Aug. 10 ordeal after the sick animal buckled on Ninth Avenue and West 45th Street — then lay there for more than an hour as his driver struck him and screamed for him to get up.
“An initial diagnosis determined that the horse was 28-30-years-old rather than the aforementioned 13-years-old, that it was malnourished, underweight and suffers from the equine neurological disorder EPM (Equine Protazoal Myeloencephalitis),” cops wrote in their report.
“Additionally, the horse suffered superficial abrasions to its legs as a result of its collapse.”

The carriage driver, Ian McKeever, had told cops on the scene that Ryder was “a 13-year-old gelded Standardbred,” the police report said.
The piece of shit needs to be charged for animal cruelty.

Queens Councilman Robert Holden ramped up his push to ban horse carriages in the Big Apple in the wake of the latest animal collapse.

Holden’s bill — introduced last month — aims to replace horse-drawn carriage with electric ones. If passed, the new measure would give drivers preferences for electric carriage licensure and also require they be paid union wages.
 
The union that represents horse carriage drivers said that the horse seen collapsing on a busy New York City street in a viral video has been retired to a private farm upstate.

WNBC, the local New York City NBC affiliate, reported that the Transport Workers Union said the horse, named Ryder, has been transferred over to new owners who are caring for him as he is treated for a neurological parasite called Equine Protozoal Myeloencephalitis (EPM) — an infection caused by possum droppings.

“The neurological effects of the EPM caused the horse to stumble and fall as the carriage driver is trying to change lanes and turn here on 45th street on the way home,” Christina Hansen, a spokesperson for the carriage drivers’ union, told WNBC. “And once he was down, he had difficulty getting up again from the neurological symptoms of EPM.”

The animal is now also on a course of antibiotics, the union said, and the farm's owners and veterinarian are planning on additional care.

The outlet said the union told them a vet estimated Ryder is about 26 years old — despite a previous report that said the horse was an estimated 13 to 14 years old. And in his advanced age, Ryder is too old to be licensed as a carriage horse in New York.

After the video of Ryder collapsing on the street went viral — with the driver of the horse shouting "Get up! Get up! Get up! C’mon, get up" and seemingly whipping the animal — there were renewed cries to ban or reform the controversial tourist attraction.

At the time, Voters For Animal Rights called the incident “horrifying,” while People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals tweeted: “Horses don’t belong in big cities where they’re put in constant danger because of cars, humans, weather, and more.”

Hansen told the local station that Ryder was in “rough shape” when he came into their program after being used as a buggy horse for a Pennsylvania farmer.

At the time of the incident, the union told NBC News that Ryder had been a carriage horse for four months.
 
26 years old wtf.

Yeah no wonder that's not even legal, that's literally elderly for a horse

plus it had EPM. Just great.
 
The Central Park carriage horse who collapsed on a New York City street two months ago due to malnutrition and dehydration had died.
Voters for Animal Rights shared the sad news Monday morning to their social media accounts, remembering the animal and calling for action.

'We are devastated to learn that Ryder, the elderly horse who collapsed and was beaten by his carriage owner in the street in the midst of a heat wave this summer, has died,' the animal rights group wrote.
'Ryder's death is yet another tragic reminder that horse carriages do not belong on the streets of NYC,' the post continued.
In their calls for justice, Voters for Animal Rights included a video of the emaciated animal lying on the street after he had fallen to the ground.

At the time of his collapse, Ryder, had been pulling a carriage through the busy city streets in the dead heat of summer.
According to forecasts from August, on the day that the horse collapsed, temps had soared into the high 80s to low 90s.

Just two weeks after Ryder collapsed, he was relocated to a farm upstate to receive treatment and rehabilitation from the alleged abuse he had received.

Officials said that the horse was 'retired' and being treated as so.
After announcing the death of Ryder on Monday, the animal rights group shared their displeasure with New York City Council members.

The organization said that they are waiting for action to be taken against horse-driven carriage operators who abuse their animals.

'We are fed up with the 17 NYC Council members who, while running for office, promised us they would support a ban on horse carriages, but have still not signed on to Intro 573, legislation that would end this for good. We are done with their ridiculous excuses,' a post read.

The followed that up by tagging the 17 Council members who have yet to ban horse carriages in the city.

The group also called the incident 'wholly avoidable' and called out Speaker of the New York City Council, Adrianne Adams, for not working to pass legislation.

'This was wholly avoidable had respected @nycspeakeradams @adriennetoyou the wishes of 71% of New Yorkers in polls to pass a ban on horse carriages. Ryder would be alive today had Adams given the bill a vote earlier this year to #BanHorseCarriages.'
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The piece of shit owner relaxing as the horse was being hosed down on the streets.
 
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The piece of shit owner relaxing as the horse was being hosed down on the streets.

Why a nice horse and carriage when the driver's a shit stain that looks like an old, wet sandwich that someone has farted on? So gross.
 
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The handler of a frail carriage horse that collapsed on a busy Manhattan street and later died — causing advocates to call for a ban on the industry — has been hit with animal abuse charges more than a year after the horrifying ordeal, prosecutors said Wednesday.
Ian McKeever, 54, was charged with one count of overdriving, torturing and injuring animals and failure to provide proper sustenance in the Aug. 10, 2022 tragedy that left Ryder — a malnourished, underweight Standardbred — sprawled in the middle of a Hell’s Kitchen street.

“It’s politicized — that’s what it is,” McKeever said following his first court appearance in the case Wednesday — as he denied ever hurting a horse.
Dramatic cellphone footage shared widely online had captured McKeever repeatedly trying to force the collapsed horse to stand back up by pulling on the reins.

“Get up!” the carriage horse driver ordered while whipping the animal — only for Ryder to keel over on his side.
Prosecutors said in court that McKeever had been working with Ryder in Central Park since 9:30 a.m. when the thin and frail horse collapsed in the middle of West 45th Street and Ninth Avenue.
Cops intervened and repeatedly poured cold water and ice over the poor horse that was grounded in 84-degree heat for 45 minutes, according to police.

At the time, McKeever told cops that Ryder was 13 years old and had just finished a 7 1/2-hour shift, but a veterinary exam determined that the horse was “28-30 years old,” according to the NYPD.
Ryder was euthanized months after the viral incident due to his poor health, the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office said.
“As alleged, Ryder should not have been working on this hot summer day. Despite his condition, he was out for hours and worked to the point of collapse,” Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg said in a statement.

“All animals deserve to be treated with the utmost care and the type of abuse that Ryder allegedly suffered is unacceptable.”
McKeever’s attorney Raymond Loving said that the timing of the charges felt like a political hit-job.
“All this happened in the last year and it’s taken them a whole year to decide to prosecute this case. Are you out of your mind?,” Loving said outside court. “People have known about this. This case is politicized.”

The DA’s Office said it was “reviewing” Ryder’s case last year, but it remained unclear why it took so long to prosecute McKeever.

McKeever was released after his brief hearing in Manhattan Criminal Court.
Later, McKeever lit a cigarette and was asked about being labeled a horse killer.

“She’s full of s–t,” McKeever said with a smile. “What my lawyer is saying is true,” he added about Loving’s claim the case was political.

“No, I’ve never harmed a horse in my life — ever.”

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