Missing Child Janessa Shannon Has Been Found Dead In Nature Preserve.

[everjaded]

13 year old Janessa Shannon had been missing since July 2nd.

According to her family's GoFundMe page, the police were only following up on the family's leads, and not actively investigating independently.

https://www.gofundme.com/finding-janessa


Janessa resided in Riverview, FL with her father, and her mother lives in Bradenton, FL. Both areas were being searched by family and friends.

Her case was made public by The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children yesterday.

Unfortunately, it was too little, too late. Janessa's badly decomposed body was found in a heavily-wooded area within a nature preserve on Wednesday. Today a positive ID was announced.

The Hillsborough County Sheriff’s Office says a hiker found a badly decomposed body Wednesday morning in a heavily-wooded area of Triple Creek Nature Preserve in Riverview.

Deputies now say they are the remains of 13-year-old Janessa Shannon. The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children released information on the Riverview teen on Friday, saying she disappeared July 2 from an undisclosed location.

The sheriff’s office says they are actively working this case as a homicide.

http://wfla.com/2017/07/15/body-fou...teenage-girl-homicide-investigation-underway/

 

[cubby]

This sounds so much like an internet hook up with an older guy. At this point, I just hope they find who did this to such a pretty little girl. At 13 they think they're grown but they are still little girls.

 

[everjaded]

This sounds so much like an internet hook up with an older guy. At this point, I just hope they find who did this to such a pretty little girl. At 13 they think they're grown but they are still little girls.

I've been all over her and her mom/mom's bf's pages since I posted this thread.


Couple of things stand out. Her mom and her mom's bf reconciled on July 2nd. Same day Janessa went missing. Not all of mom's friends had positive things to say about this reunion.


On Janessa's page (one of a couple, it seems) her bio dad made a post back in January telling males over age 15 to stop contacting her and sending dick pics and jacking videos to her. So, this was a thing, apparently.

https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...0364737629&set=ecnf.100010364737629&source=49

 

[Craygor]

I've been all over her and her mom/mom's bf's pages since I posted this thread.


Couple of things stand out. Her mom and her mom's bf reconciled on July 2nd. Same day Janessa went missing. Not all of mom's friends had positive things to say about this reunion.


On Janessa's page (one of a couple, it seems) her bio dad made a post back in January telling males over age 15 to stop contacting her and sending dick pics and jacking videos to her. So, this was a thing, apparently.

https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...0364737629&set=ecnf.100010364737629&source=49

First a Go-Fund-Me page and now this weird shit, something appears fucked up in that home.

 

[MissGuggle]

On Janessa's page (one of a couple, it seems) her bio dad made a post back in January telling males over age 15 to stop contacting her and sending dick pics and jacking videos to her. So, this was a thing, apparently.

So... Does this mean that boys her own age were allowed? <A JOKE, for those who don't know when I'm just kidding...!>

For real, though... Mom & bf reconcile, she goes missing... Perhaps she LEFT bc she didn't like him being there either (as in, agrees with the other ppl who didn't like them getting back together)?

 

[Benighted]

Judging by the reaction to her mom's news that she had got back with step dad it sounds like it was not a happy home despite mom's insistence there was no domestic abuse or violence ('cause you know how abuse victims always tell the truth about if they're being abused...) Maybe she ran away and something happened to her after that, or maybe she reached out to the wrong person for help. The cover photo she posted on FB back in October of the graphic of the little girl trying to push her mom away from the guy in the bed seems very telling and poignant to me.

 

[Victoria]

I'm with those who have their hinky meter vibrating that Janessa just happened to go missing on the same day that mom and her boyfriend reconcile.

I'm not discounting however that Janessa may have left in a fit of pique over the reconciliation with a sympathetic individual. An individual who took full advantage of a 13 years old girls trust and naivety.

So many questions...

 

[everjaded]

Hrmm.. So deputies say she was a habitual runaway, while mom says she'd never run away before.

Also, how common of a surname is Shannon? Her biological father and Mom's current bf are both named Shannon. Could be total coincidence, but also vibrating the hinky meter for me a bit.

The Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office said the body of a missing teenager was found on Wednesday.

The decomposed remains of 13-year-old Janessa Shannon, who had been reported missing by family members, were found by a hiker in the Triple Creek Nature Preserve in Riverview on Wednesday. She was not publicly identified until Saturday.

Deputies previously said that Shannon was a habitual runaway. The sheriff's office is now investigating the case as a homicide.

She was very loving, caring and had a heart of gold," said mother Michelle Mosley. "Justice is the only thing we want right now. And, it's not gonna make anything better, it's not gonna bring her back, it's definitely not going to help me sleep at night."

Janessa's mom says the 13-year-old vanished at the beginning of July. No contact. No sightings. It's not something she said Janessa would normally do.

"She didn't have a history of running away. She never ran away before and that's how it was treated," said Mosley.

Her family posted signs and shared pictures online but heard nothing.
Then, on Wednesday, a hiker found a body in a heavily wooded area in Riverview. Saturday brought devastating news that it was Janessa.
"A beautiful young lady, had such a beautiful future, had everything going for her and was taken way too soon," said Clifford Shannon. "And, for what?"
Her mom says Janessa was staying with her biological father, Nahshon Shannon in Riverview when he claimed she ran away. We stopped by on Saturday and found a heavy sheriff's office presence at his home, including Forensic Services vehicles.

http://www.fox13news.com/news/local-news/268163345-story
[doublepost=1500237148,1500236500][/doublepost]Waaaaait a minute. What the actual fuck is going on here.

So mom's bf ALSO has a 14 year old biracial niece that's missing now?

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1436614593073135&id=100001738244081&ref=content_filter

 

[Valasca]

No. Take it from me. She was not habitual.
If she was, they never reported her as missing.
This is what I do.

 

[JackBurton]

No. Take it from me. She was not habitual.
If she was, they never reported her as missing.
This is what I do.

Report kids as missing or run away?

 

[cubby]

Report kids as missing or run away?

@Valasca runs a missing children's website, you need to come out from under your rock more often.

 

[Valasca]

What did I miss?

 

[cubby]

@Valasca read the post above mine, just jack being jack.

 

[Valasca]

Oh. I have Jacoff blocked.
Fuck that guy.
Not literally because EW.

 

[everjaded]

@Valasca She may not have been reported before, but she did have a history of sneaking out/running away.

The girl's mother, Michelle Mosley, told the Tampa Bay Times that Janessa had sneaked out of her Bradenton home before. When Mosley found out the teen had done it again and wound up at a boy's house, she punished her by sending her back to her father's home in Riverview on July 1, a day earlier than planned.



The father, Nahshon Shannon, grounded her, but the following day found her bedroom empty, the paper reports. He reported the disappearance to the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office on July 3 and began to search for the girl along with Mosley.



Agency officials never publicized her disappearance, later saying she was a habitual runaway and that's how they treated the case, reports the Tampa Bay Times. However her mother said she usually heard from her daughter if she left.



"She had snuck out before," Mosley told the paper. "But she never stayed gone."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/body-found-decomposed-in-florida-nature-preserve-idd-as-missing-girl-13/



Things aren't sounding great re: bio dad, either.

Janessa lived with her mother in Bradenton but was staying with her father in Hillsborough County when she disappeared.



Detectives and forensic investigators were spotted at Janessa’s father’s home on Saturday. They say it’s the last place she was seen alive, back on July 1. She was not reported missing until two days later.



Col. Lusczynski says Janessa’s father then left Florida.



“It is unusual, I think, if a child is missing, but originally he was out of town for work,” Lusczynski said. “Initially, he was cooperative with this investigation and provided an interview. When we asked for consent to search his residence where she was last seen he did not allow us to do that. We obtained a search warrant. He has since invoked and wants to consult an attorney.”



News Channel 8 asked Lusczynski if detectives are calling the father a person of interest.



“We are not focusing on any one person right now,” she answered. “Janessa was on social media and talking to different people, and had a number of friends so we want to make sure we are talking to everyone who may have possibly been involved.”



Janessa’s father leaving the state and getting a lawyer doesn’t add up for Janessa’s mother, Michelle Mosley.



“I think that, why get a lawyer if you have nothing to hide? I am doing everything that I can to cooperate and whatever they needed to help find our daughter. I never once went out of state. I called out of work, but while I was calling out of work looking for her he was out of state on a business trip,” said Mosley.

http://wfla.com/2017/07/17/hillsbor...g-for-publics-help-to-find-teen-girls-killer/

 

[starry1]

So dad left town? No, nothing suspicious about that.

 

[Valasca]

Thanks, @everjaded
These are links I haven't seen.

 

[cubby]

Possible fight with dad about the grounding and dad may have hit her and hurt her real bad, dead even.

Normal worried fathers do not leave the state for any reason, definitely not when his daughter has just been found dead. Oh yeah he's involved in this some kind of way.

 

[Sudonim]

“I think that, why get a lawyer if you have nothing to hide?

Everyone's always hollering about their rights, but as soon as someone invokes their legal rights in a criminal investigation they are always the bad guy.

Not saying he doesn't look suspicious or that he wasn't involved, but hiring a lawyer and demanding a warrant to search your residence is absolutely the thing everyone should do. Even when your child is missing.

Consent to search means they can search and seize anything. Absolutely anything, even if it's unrelated to why they went in in the first place. A search warrant limits what they can search, seize and use.

From all that I've seen so far this mom has no wiggle room to smack talk the dad, even if he's behaving in ways she finds inappropriate. She's not mom of the year and her husband(the step-dad) really sets my hinky meter off. That shirtless photo he posted on her facebook to scare off guys sending dick pics etc..no normal person does that. It's like he was marking his territory. It was weird enough that he had people outright calling him on why he would post that. Then there's his missing niece and his lovely message to her. No come home now we miss you, no it was a come home now or I'll find you and beat your ass message.

Honestly the whole family sounds like garbage and everyone of them could be involved.

 

[everjaded]

Everyone's always hollering about their rights, but as soon as someone invokes their legal rights in a criminal investigation they are always the bad guy.

Not saying he doesn't look suspicious or that he wasn't involved, but hiring a lawyer and demanding a warrant to search your residence is absolutely the thing everyone should do. Even when your child is missing.

Consent to search means they can search and seize anything. Absolutely anything, even if it's unrelated to why they went in in the first place. A search warrant limits what they can search, seize and use.

From all that I've seen so far this mom has no wiggle room to smack talk the dad, even if he's behaving in ways she finds inappropriate. She's not mom of the year and her husband(the step-dad) really sets my hinky meter off. That shirtless photo he posted on her facebook to scare off guys sending dick pics etc..no normal person does that. It's like he was marking his territory. It was weird enough that he had people outright calling him on why he would post that. Then there's his missing niece and his lovely message to her. No come home now we miss you, no it was a come home now or I'll find you and beat your ass message.

Honestly the whole family sounds like garbage and everyone of them could be involved.

That's an excellent point, I didn't think about a warrant limiting the scope of what the cops could search.

Shirtless guy online was actually the bio-dad, not the mom's bf. The bf is the one with the missing niece.
Two different people, same last name.

I don't think either are parent of the year either, at this point, but there are a few things a little janky with bio-dad. One being the fact that he waited so long to report his daughter missing. The other being that, from my understanding, he went out of state to work in between the time she first turned up missing and when he actually reported her gone.

Who does that? Maybe he lives with someone else and there's a stepmother in the picture that no one has mentioned... but if not, it sounds like he had planned to leave her alone at his house while he was out of state working.

If my kid was back sent to my house early for misbehaving (sneaking out to meet up with a boy), the LAST thing I'd be doing is leaving her alone in an empty house at that age, with plenty of opportunities to do whatever she pleased.

 

[Craygor]

Everyone's always hollering about their rights, but as soon as someone invokes their legal rights in a criminal investigation they are always the bad guy.

Dad to police: "Please help us find our daughter's killer. We loved her so much and we want you to catch those responsible."

Police: "We are right on it sir, may we check you home for clues?"

Dad: "Where's you fucking warrant, pig?"

 

[Sejanus]

Meh they are all shitty people.
Lock em all up just to be safe.

As for dad not wanting cops in his place...
hey he could be into some messed porn, drugs or who knows what.
Could have nothing relating to the case,,
but incriminating as hell otherwise.

The whole trio sounds like a vortex of bad mojo and best avoided.

 

[Sudonim]

That's an excellent point, I didn't think about a warrant limiting the scope of what the cops could search.

Shirtless guy online was actually the bio-dad, not the mom's bf. The bf is the one with the missing niece.
Two different people, same last name.

I don't think either are parent of the year either, at this point, but there are a few things a little janky with bio-dad. One being the fact that he waited so long to report his daughter missing. The other being that, from my understanding, he went out of state to work in between the time she first turned up missing and when he actually reported her gone.

Who does that? Maybe he lives with someone else and there's a stepmother in the picture that no one has mentioned... but if not, it sounds like he had planned to leave her alone at his house while he was out of state working.

If my kid was back sent to my house early for misbehaving (sneaking out to meet up with a boy), the LAST thing I'd be doing is leaving her alone in an empty house at that age, with plenty of opportunities to do whatever she pleased.

You're right. My bad. Was so mixed up with that back and forth conversation about which was her dad and which wasn't lol

 

[cubby]

Two different people, same last name.

didn't realize that bit.

the whole thing is strange to me.

 

[Sudonim]

Dad to police: "Please help us find our daughter's killer. We loved her so much and we want you to catch those responsible."

Police: "We are right on it sir, may we check you home for clues?"

Dad: "Where's you fucking warrant, pig?"

As for dad not wanting cops in his place...
hey he could be into some messed porn, drugs or who knows what.
Could have nothing relating to the case,,
but incriminating as hell otherwise.

^this was what I was getting at with asking for a warrant.

It literally takes them 1 phone call and a handful of minutes to get a search warrant for the parents of a missing child. They do not need proof for a judge to grant it unlike other search warrants. The child residing there is enough. You can lawyer up and have a warrant handed to you in all of an hours time.

For example: There are plenty of us here who smoke pot(me included), for a good chunk of us we live in places its legal..that doesn't mean you won't get slack or even charges over it. While pot is legal, in most places its still illegal to smoke in public and illegal to smoke in a residence that has children living there. Whether they are home or not. It's also illegal to possess drug paraphernalia. A consent to search could end up with a child neglect charge or worse over leaving a pipe out or them deeming your stash was to accessible and has zero to do with the child that's missing. A search warrant prevents them from using any of that against you.

There are staggering amount of cases were they have slapped unrelated charges on a parent they deems as suspicious just so that they can jail them or otherwise place restrictions on them to keep track of their movements. Sometimes they do it so they can remove other children from their care.

 

[lithiumgirl]

On Janessa's page (one of a couple, it seems) her bio dad made a post back in January telling males over age 15 to stop contacting her and sending dick pics and jacking videos to her. So, this was a thing, apparently.

Or I suppose he could just supervise his daughter while she is on the internet like we've (everyone) was told to do since the beginning of the internet. Fucking parents, giving up their power all the time. And I don't understand it because adults really can control their kids lives, what they see ... hear ... wear ... eat ... who they know ... who they talk too. That is real power there ... and too many parents give it away.

So dad left town? No, nothing suspicious about that.

Not if its a business trip ... making the police get a search warrant is more suspect than leaving town for work.

 

[Craygor]

^this was what I was getting at with asking for a warrant.

It literally takes them 1 phone call and a handful of minutes to get a search warrant for the parents of a missing child. They do not need proof for a judge to grant it unlike other search warrants. The child residing there is enough. You can lawyer up and have a warrant handed to you in all of an hours time.

For example: There are plenty of us here who smoke pot(me included), for a good chunk of us we live in places its legal..that doesn't mean you won't get slack or even charges over it. While pot is legal, in most places its still illegal to smoke in public and illegal to smoke in a residence that has children living there. Whether they are home or not. It's also illegal to possess drug paraphernalia. A consent to search could end up with a child neglect charge or worse over leaving a pipe out or them deeming your stash was to accessible and has zero to do with the child that's missing. A search warrant prevents them from using any of that against you.

There are staggering amount of cases were they have slapped unrelated charges on a parent they deems as suspicious just so that they can jail them or otherwise place restrictions on them to keep track of their movements. Sometimes they do it so they can remove other children from their care.

There are two points I would like to share here.

The first is emotional, if my child is missing or was murdered I wouldn't give a fucking rat's ass about my pot stash being discovered if it means either my child can be saved quickly or having a better chance of catching the killer, at that point in my life I would give everything for those outcomes to happen.

The second is a legal point, police can get a warrant for "search the child's bedroom and common areas for clues in the child's disappearance or murder", but if they see other evidence of a different crime, say drug distribution, while heading to those areas, or even during the search, police officers only have to stop right there, secure the premises, and request a new warrant issued based on the findings of the initial search. So, if someone is doing some shady shit, having a warrant for one unrelated issue won't save them against the other.

 

[Sudonim]

There are two issues that is not pointed out here.

The first is emotional, if my child is missing or was murdered I wouldn't give a fucking rat's ass about my pot stash being discovered if it means either my child can be saved quickly or having a better chance of catching the killer, at that point in my life I would give everything for those outcomes to happen.

The second is a legal point, police can get a warrant for "search the child's bedroom and common areas for clues in the child's disappearance or murder", but if they see other evidence of a different crime, say drug distribution, while heading to those areas, or even during the search, police officers only have to stop right there, secure the premises, and request a new warrant issued based on the findings of the initial search.

The first doesn't apply, since the police disregarded her as a runaway and gave no fucks until after she was found dead.

I'm not saying I wouldn't be a wreck, I'm saying to talk to them on scene is one thing, to let them systematically rip your house apart after questioning is another.

The second point, no, no they can't. If they discover evidence of an unrelated crime while performing search warrant they cannot just phone in for another expanded one or unrelated one. That's not how search warrants work. Search warrants are extremely limiting due to the fourth amendment. They aren't as general "search common areas", they are very detailed in where they can search, what they can search for and what they can seize. They must have a reason that will hold up in court for the search warrant and being in the house conducting one search for another thing doesn't count as a reason. You cannot use one warrant to validify another, even if it pertains to the same crime. They cannot piggy back warrants like that. It's considered an unlawful search if anything other then what was signed off on is looked at or considered. It voids the original warrant.

There is a difference between being arrested for the unrelated crime and them seizing what they seen vs issuing a warrant. They can arrest you and seize said drug operation, but they cannot get a warrant based on them seeing something unrelated during a legal search. This falls into the "in plain sight" laws. Same reason why if you put your phone on the table in the investigation room they don't need a warrant to take it and look at it, but if its on your person or in a bag, they do.

Example: Police get a warrant to search for a body and in your glove compartment they find drugs. It's an illegal search and you can't be arrested for either crime because a body simply cannot fit in a glove compartment therefor voiding the warrant. If they have a warrant to search for a gun and find drugs in your glove compartment then it is legal because a gun could possibly be in there.

 

[Craygor]

The second point, no, no they can't.

From 1998 to 2001, I was assigned as a Law Enforcement Specialist in the Maryland/DC/Virginia area, I served quite a few warrants. One time we were executing a warrant to search for weapons due to a statement made the estranged wife against the husband. The warrant only covered the bedroom, since that is where she said he stored them. On the way to the bedroom one of the other officers saw a bong sticking out from behind the couch as we were walking through the living room. We addmitely secured the home and requested an additional warrant to cover a search for drugs and drug paraphernalia.

But, here's a link from an expert on this issue
https://www.quora.com/If-the-police...r-warrant-to-investigate-that-different-crime

 

[Sudonim]

@Craygor hehe I already read it before posting because I wanted to be sure on the plain sight part. I also read up the fourth amendment in regards to warrants just to make sure I remembered it correctly.

I never said you can't get a warrant for an unrelated crime, I said you can't piggy back them. You are the one who assumed items would be in plain sight. I assume people hide them, in places that would mostly likely be found during a consensual search but not in a warranted search. You can't use a warrant for my missing child as an excuse to search my kitchen cabinets or the box in the corner of the garage that has xmas decorations but you can search those things if I give a consent to search