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Alf

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A tip of the ball cap to @WHatevz for bringing the story to our attention and to @Deja for the link.
By Kelly Smith, Mary Lynn Smith and Paul Walsh Star Tribune
September 10, 2015 — 9:01pm
Police officers doing a welfare check Thursday at a home in the west metro city of Greenwood came upon a scene their chief called “unspeakable” — the bodies of five family members, including three children.

The five, whose bodies bore traumatic injuries and were scattered around the large house on Channel Drive, appeared to be the victims of a multiple murder-suicide, said South Lake Minnetonka Interim Police Chief Mike Siitari.

The family — a father, mother and three teenage children — had not been seen for a couple of days at work or school, and the father’s co-workers had asked police to check on them, he said.
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Dad did it. Money trouble. "My family wouldn't survive without ME ME ME!!!!!!!!"
(So I'll kill them all and then myself)
 
Got all excited this was going to be my first thread to post, and I'm an hour late :arghh:. All over the news here. Also heard chirping leaning towards the son.
 
there were a couple of posts about his parents/father and one saying his parents were sending him away or something. just seemed kind of strange to me.
 
someone posted this on some news article which is why i even came to this site:


BelladonnaCove5 hours ago
According to the wife's facebook, Karen Preiss Short was planning to leave him. Not much more as most of her and Brian's FB have been scrubbed.
Supposedly their house was paid for and Brian was doing well in his business.
There's more info about the injuries at Dreamin'Demon TrueCrime site.
Sounds like a knife and hammer were used-- not a gun.
 
Well from What I can tell the deaths were Brian (dad), Karen (mom) and the kids Madison, Cole, and Brooklyn...here's the dads profile

https://m.facebook.com/shortbrian?fref=none

I know we always say this but murder-suicides people need to start with the suicide and leave others out of it.

Anyways, seems like the mom was a nurse


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Maybe it's the dad that's a nurse...I dunno


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Dad is the CEO of allnurses.com
 
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I have a suspicion the son committed the murders and suicide. He does have some odd things on his FB's as someone else pointed out.
 
Latest from the NY Times:

Five members of a family who were found dead in their home in a Minneapolis suburb died of gunshot wounds in an apparent murder-suicide, the police said Friday.

The South Lake Minnetonka Police Department said the bodies were found at the home in Greenwood, Minn., the day before, when officers carried out a welfare check in response to reports that the family’s three teenage children had not been in school for two days.

Michael Siitari, the department’s interim police chief, said in a phone interview Friday that the authorities had not released the names of the victims, but a post on the father’s work website confirmed that he and his family had died.

An employee of the site, Allnurses.com, said in a posting that the victims were Brian Short, the website’s founder, his wife and three children. The posting said there were few other details in the case.

“No matter what the details are, the results are still the same,” it said, “a very tragic loss for the extended families, friends, co-workers, and this nursing community.”

Four of the family members were found in their bedrooms, the police said Friday; the husband and father was found in the home’s garage. A weapon was recovered at the scene, but the authorities were unable to determine who shot whom.

Those who knew the family struggled to reconcile the grim news with the public appearance of a family that seemed placid and privileged.

Jodie Gorence, a former neighbor, described the family in an interview with WCCO television as “wealthy people that were down to earth.” A family friend, Dave Smits, said he hadn’t heard from Mr. Short in several days; he was worried after a text message he sent on Sunday went unanswered.

“I pretty much went down on one knee and couldn’t believe it,” Mr. Smits told the station.

On social media, Mr. Short’s dispatches appeared to show a life focused on enjoying his lakefront home and time with his wife, Karen; two daughters, Madison and Brooklyn; and a son, Cole.

In April, he used a selfie stick to post photos from a family vacation in Tulum, Mexico, and a YouTube video posted last July shows Mr. Shortflying a drone over Lake Minnetonka.

Mr. Short, a self-taught techie, built Allnurses.com from a hobby website into a successful business. In a 2014 interview with The Minneapolis Star Tribune, he said that the site attracted over four million unique visitors every month and that he had been able to scale back his work as a nurse to focus more on enjoying family life.

“I have so many ideas that I want to enable,” he said. “At some point maybe I’ll sell — I have no interest in that now.”

On Friday, grief counselors were available at Minnetonka High School, where all three children attended, according to The Associated Press, and friends and alumni used the hashtag #TonkaStrong to show support for the community. But others were still searching for answers about what happened inside the home, which stood quiet on Friday, barricaded by police tape.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/12/u...e-in-minnesota-a-search-for-answers.html?_r=0
 
I'm confused. Am I missing something? The article says the police could not determine who fired the gun although one was found in the home...but someone said the dad did it. Has it been determined yet?
 
I'm confused. Am I missing something? The article says the police could not determine who fired the gun although one was found in the home...but someone said the dad did it. Has it been determined yet?

"Sources" say the dad did it. The following police interview suggests the same, but does not confirm.

The father in a family of five found dead in their Greenwood home Thursday shot and killed his wife and three teenage children before turning the gun on himself, sources told the Star Tribune Friday.

Brian Scott Short, 45, killed his wife, Karen Anne Short, 48; and his three children, Cole, 17; Madison, 15, and Brooklyn, 14, in their mansion near Lake Minnetonka, the sources said.

At an afternoon news conference, South Lake Minnetonka interim Police Chief Mike Siitari said Brian Short was found in the garage and the rest of his family were found in bedrooms. A shotgun was found at the house, he said.

“This is a gruesome, complex case. We are asking for patience,” he said. “We can’t release information in real time.”​

http://www.startribune.com/investigation-continues-into-deaths-of-greenwood-family/326692481/
 
Hmm...I wonder who the "sources" are. Bc being in the garage could mean the dad had just gotten home ...unless the shotgun was also found there of course.
 
Greenwood father shot three kids, his wife, then himself
Entrepreneur apparently faced financial, emotional problems
By David Chanen and Kelly Smith Star Tribune
September 12, 2015 — 5:46am

Night had fallen in the sprawling house on Channel Drive in the affluent west metro enclave of Greenwood, just a short walk from Lake Minnetonka.

Brian Scott Short, the 45-year-old homeowner, grabbed a shotgun and headed to the bedrooms of his 17-year-old son, Cole, and his 15- and 14-year-old daughters, Madison and Brooklyn.

He walked into the first bedroom, aimed the gun at the sleeping child and pulled the trigger, sources with direct knowledge of the investigation told the Star Tribune Friday.

Short then did the same to his other two children.

Startled by the noise, Short’s 48-year-old wife, Karen, grabbed a cellphone to call 911. But Brian tracked her down in another bedroom and shot her dead. She, like the children, was shot in the head.

Short then went into the home’s attached garage and turned the shotgun on himself.

South Lake Minnetonka interim Police Chief Mike Siitari confirmed Friday at a news conference that a shotgun was found in the house, though he would not say where. No official confirmation of the victims’ identities has been made and Siitari asked for the public’s patience as police investigate what is being described as a complex and “gruesome” case.

“We can’t release information in real time,” Siitari said, adding that he’s trying to balance public requests for information with the progress of the investigation. “We will do our best to work through this tragedy.”

He also declined to talk about a possible motive.

However, the sources who described the sequence of the killings also said that Brian Short had financial and mental health problems.
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--Al
 
How incredibly sad and from the sounds of it, no one saw it coming. It's scary that he was a nurse and literally had all these resources at his fingertips, yet didn't utilize them and felt the need to not only take his own life but the lives of 4 innocent people. RIP
 
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