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Yeah, I'm sure the little girls or boys that have been molested wouldn't think that what we need is compassion, understanding, and 2nd and 3rd chances....just sayin! That's just insane!
 
@Saury look I don't know who pissed in your wheaties this morning, but I don't debate with people who cannot communicate without childish name calling. The fact is, children are schooled to not talk to strangers, you have no idea what it feels like as a woman or young girl to be approached by a strange man. It's uncomfortable at best. You began your argument with judgment and venom and I don't respond to that. I'm not a man hater, I just don't think it's worth the risk to anyone to put themselves in precarious positions. Of course if a man sees a girl in trouble i'd want him to help but what about the little girl raped at the side of the road next guy comes to help and rapes her again? We don't hate men but rape culture and FACTS make us very, very Leary. Now calm the fuck down and stop being so extreme.
 
Aren't you the guy who was advocating for pedos awhile back? And now with the sexist hate speech? How was your relationship with your mother?

... it was very close. I loved her very, very much. She was my closest friend, and was always there for me. I'm sure she felt the same..

@Saury look I don't know who pissed in your wheaties this morning, but I don't debate with people who cannot communicate without childish name calling. The fact is, children are schooled to not talk to strangers, you have no idea what it feels like as a woman or young girl to be approached by a strange man. It's uncomfortable at best. You began your argument with judgment and venom and I don't respond to that. I'm not a man hater, I just don't think it's worth the risk to anyone to put themselves in precarious positions. Of course if a man sees a girl in trouble i'd want him to help but what about the little girl raped at the side of the road next guy comes to help and rapes her again? We don't hate men but rape culture and FACTS make us very, very Leary. Now calm the fuck down and stop being so extreme.
Rape culture is not a thing. I don't give a fuck who says what to support it. There is no culture to such a vile act.
 
Yeah, I'm sure the little girls or boys that have been molested wouldn't think that what we need is compassion, understanding, and 2nd and 3rd chances....just sayin! That's just insane!
This is the problem... Nobody is perfect, and I'm not saying they should go unpunished.. but time heals all wounds, unless there is murder, there is always a way to atone, be it via blood or otherwise. There is always a way to forgive, there is always a way to heal. I have faith in humanity. I love people, I so very much do, and I know from years of observing that 95% of pedophiles don't touch children. Those who do... Are monsters, but we all are. None of us is free of sin. And so, as a result, everybody deserves to have a door open when another closes. If somebody truly repents, if somebody makes up for what they've done, raping a child per example, and it is possible to trust them based objectively on their actions and behavior, then by all means they deserve that chance. Everybody makes mistakes. And some make them even worse than others. There is plenty worse than child rapists out there. Terrorists, murderers, what I like to call "Maimers" (basically torture that results in the loss of a limb or something else. Kind of like tearing somebodies eye out without killing them. Not murder, but pretty fucked up. Kind of like rapists, and basically on the same level as child rapists but in my opinion just a bit worse depending on the situation), etc. I simply have faith in humanity. I think you're a fucked up and sick minded individual if you cannot find the compassion and empathy in your own dried up heart to forgive somebody who truly makes an effort, and I mean TRULY, don't argue and say it doesn't happen because it does, TRULY make an effort to change and become a functioning upstanding member of society, who helps others more than not, if they are willing to truly reform, they deserve that chance. There is absolutely no logic that is not cruel and disgusting that says otherwise. If they have suffered their punishment and decided to reform, to make up for what they have done by helping those around them, then it matters not if the victim they have created forgives them. It's not the deciding factor. If you can tell they are sorry, a forgiveness is not needed. As long as they make up their wrongs for the rest of their life by doing what they can to make others happier above themselves, then by god, they deserve a chance. Nobody is perfect. Nobody is free of sin. We all have blood on our hands in one way or another directly or indirectly. Do not pretend you have the right to cast that unforgiving judgement upon somebody else.
 
@Saury I called you a freak because you're freaking out! You called me a string of nasty names to "punish me" for being a man hater and the funniest thing is I love men, always have preferred their company over women. How do you vilify someone for being hateful in a hateful litany of hateful names. Makes no sense you behave as a troll. Is that it? Are you a lonely ol troll?
 
This is the problem... Nobody is perfect, and I'm not saying they should go unpunished.. but time heals all wounds, unless there is murder, there is always a way to atone, be it via blood or otherwise. There is always a way to forgive, there is always a way to heal. I have faith in humanity. I love people, I so very much do, and I know from years of observing that 95% of pedophiles don't touch children. Those who do... Are monsters, but we all are. None of us is free of sin. And so, as a result, everybody deserves to have a door open when another closes. If somebody truly repents, if somebody makes up for what they've done, raping a child per example, and it is possible to trust them based objectively on their actions and behavior, then by all means they deserve that chance. Everybody makes mistakes. And some make them even worse than others. There is plenty worse than child rapists out there. Terrorists, murderers, what I like to call "Maimers" (basically torture that results in the loss of a limb or something else. Kind of like tearing somebodies eye out without killing them. Not murder, but pretty fucked up. Kind of like rapists, and basically on the same level as child rapists but in my opinion just a bit worse depending on the situation), etc. I simply have faith in humanity. I think you're a fucked up and sick minded individual if you cannot find the compassion and empathy in your own dried up heart to forgive somebody who truly makes an effort, and I mean TRULY, don't argue and say it doesn't happen because it does, TRULY make an effort to change and become a functioning upstanding member of society, who helps others more than not, if they are willing to truly reform, they deserve that chance. There is absolutely no logic that is not cruel and disgusting that says otherwise. If they have suffered their punishment and decided to reform, to make up for what they have done by helping those around them, then it matters not if the victim they have created forgives them. It's not the deciding factor. If you can tell they are sorry, a forgiveness is not needed. As long as they make up their wrongs for the rest of their life by doing what they can to make others happier above themselves, then by god, they deserve a chance. Nobody is perfect. Nobody is free of sin. We all have blood on our hands in one way or another directly or indirectly. Do not pretend you have the right to cast that unforgiving judgement upon somebody else.

I find it pretty ironic, and kinda funny, that you keep saying that you love people and have faith in humanity and all that stuff! I have to admit I stopped reading your response after all that "you're a sick minded individual" bullshit, but I'm fairly certain I didn't miss anything worth reading! Anyone who thinks that wanting to protect their children from rapist, either by man OR WOMAN, is sick minded and blah, blah, blah and should forgive and trust people and all that shit isn't worth arguing with. I don't need to have my feelings validated on this one...
 
@Saury I called you a freak because you're freaking out! You called me a string of nasty names to "punish me" for being a man hater and the funniest thing is I love men, always have preferred their company over women. How do you vilify someone for being hateful in a hateful litany of hateful names. Makes no sense you behave as a troll. Is that it? Are you a lonely ol troll?
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The concept of a personal attack is not that hard to grasp. When replying to another poster you can counter their ideas but you can not attack that member personally.

Personal Attack: Noun. (plural personal attacks) Making of an abusive remark on or relating to one's person instead of providing evidence when examining another person's claims or comments.

Further conversation about this story is welcome but if it devolves into playground pig tail pulling I will lock it or thread ban you.

Reporting posts that are against forums rules is always anonymous and welcomed.
 
Oh so telling someone having a nice cup of shut the f up is but dissing and calling feminists manhaters isnt? Okay skewed much. You can tell somone that without personally attacking someone but saury has contributed little to the conversation and continues to offend us on dd. And continues to attack personally with his every lavish posts.
I kind of took it as a message to me to report him. I'm not really one to do that since I'm a big girl and all but I didn't take her msg as against me but for me. My little freak comment is nothing compared to what @Saury called me. I could be wrong lol happens all the time!
 
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Ok since @Saury is the embodiment of JFC himself, forgiving all, (except my man hating ass) lol, let's send all pedos & perves to him to forgive and love! Then we don't have to worry anymore! Is it just me that cracks up at a message about love and forgiveness ends up calling me a swine? Way to get the message across!:angelic:
 
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I have addressed this thread and Saury privately already.
Oh so telling someone having a nice cup of shut the f up is but dissing and calling feminists manhaters isnt? Okay skewed much. You can tell somone that without personally attacking someone but saury has contributed little to the conversation and continues to offend us on dd. And continues to attack personally with his every lavish posts.

I didn't feel it was necessary to prune the discussion further since it's already been handled. Neither of those things were said. You will survive having a picture you posted saying stfu being deleted.

I kind of took it as a message to me to report him. I'm not really one to do that since I'm a big girl and all but I didn't take her msg as against me but for me. My little freak comment is nothing compared to what @Saury called me. I could be wrong lol happens all the time!

It's was a message that insulting by name calling isn't tolerated and unless reported, is easy to miss.
 
Ok since @Saury is the embodiment of JFC himself, forgiving all, (except my man hating ass) lol, let's send all pedos & perves to him to forgive and love! Then we don't have to worry anymore! Is it just me that cracks up at a message about love and forgiveness ends up calling me a swine? Way to get the message across!:angelic:

Enjoy your thread ban.
 
Why should I forgive the person that molested me? What have they done to earn it? Especially since it was his way of punishing my mother? Is there really healing when you've been used as a pawn in one person's sick game? Do I believe he's is a true pedophile? No, I don't. But he sexually molested me, so, he chose to be one for his own ends. Which is even sicker in my mind. It's been 38 years Saury, I don't feel the forgiveness or healing coming anytime soon. He doesn't deserve it, nor has he done one thing to make any kind of amends. Do I carry hate in me? No. Ask anyone that knows me. I'm not that kind of person. But I hate him. And he chose that...
Okay... first of all we need to have a talk about this, so I can specify what I was talking about to you.
Enjoy your thread ban.
I didn't know this was possible. Praise be, that's a unique ban if I've never heard of it. +1 for dreamindemon, and +15 for the headclear staff.

I would like sauce on your stat that 95% of pedophiles don't touch children. Throw the empirical, peer reviewed data down @Saury
99% of all statistics are made up. But frankly if you consider all the "lolicon" and other forms of pedo-type porn out there, as compared to the frequency of crime related to the topic, you can at the very least with a clear head make an accurate guess that more pedophiles abstain than act on urge. It's just an observation. Prove it wrong if you can. I'd like to see that, considering people lynch those who try to research this, causing understudied statistics to emerge. It's kind of funny, actually.

on another note, I'd have to honestly say that I am NOT saying a guy like this should be forgiven. I am NOT saying that what he did was justified or that he deserves anything less than to be skinned alive and be made to wear a water tight suit filled with salt water. In fact, water and hot sauce. But what I am saying is, there is more good in people than you realize, and the right to judge falls on those who are clean of sin. If somebody has actively made efforts to contribute to society to the point he has clearly reformed, he deserves to NOT have death threats thrown at him for something that happened 10 years ago. Some people should have the right to be forgotten. Some people. And then, there are monsters who do it on purpose. There are monsters who feel no empathy for their victims and continue to do it until caught. There are some people who have absolutely no right to even apologize. Some people deserve to burn. But that's not everyone. And that's certainly is the man who walked up to a young girl and force kissed her to give her an STD or 30. Forget hell, lets inject urine into his eyeballs and swap his urethra for his intestines.

Anyone who would willingly spread a disease in GENERAL be it a consenting adult or not should be executed. It should be strongly enforced that if you have an STD, you have to have some sort of sticker or something on your damn ID. It should not be tolerated to spread disease willingly and secretly among society. It should be met with the most severe punishment possible, spreading an STD like how this man did, and it should also be a harsh, unforgiving penalty to sleep with somebody without letting them know far ahead of time that you have said STD. It's barbaric. I'd probably be on the headlines of this very website if somebody gave me one without my knowledge. I'd be covered in blood, to say the LEAST. And not my own, either. I'd eat a bitches baby and mouth feed it to em. Not literally but that's how fucking hard I would snap if somebody for example gave me aids on purpose. I'd destroy a bitch, man or woman.

This young girl deserves the right to press the button on the electric chair, or inject the needle, push the plunger, what ever.
 
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There isn't a single soul on dd that can remotely feel empathetic towards pedophiles. Why do you continue to try?

I may not have a soul, but I am on DD and I DO have empathy for pedophiles. It must be a terrible existence. I cannot imagine what it must be like to get turned on by children aside from it must be a pretty miserable life for the pedophiles who understand their condition and choose to live their lives without acting on their desire. It's not like they asked to be born (made\conditioned\choose your flavor) that way, and I am sure they are aware that there is no cure for it. Shitty.
 
I may not have a soul, but I am on DD and I DO have empathy for pedophiles. It must be a terrible existence. I cannot imagine what it must be like to get turned on by children aside from it must be a pretty miserable life for the pedophiles who understand their condition and choose to live their lives without acting on their desire. It's not like they asked to be born (made\conditioned\choose your flavor) that way, and I am sure they are aware that there is no cure for it. Shitty.


Question.. And sorry if it's been asked before... Obviously we know what a pedophile is .. But is that term still used for people who have NOT acted on it.? .. Would they be considered a pedophile?
 
Question.. And sorry if it's been asked before... Obviously we know what a pedophile is .. But is that term still used for people who have NOT acted on it.? .. Would they be considered a pedophile?

Well, yeah. A pedophile is just someone who is sexually attracted to children. It's not someone who has actually touched a kid.
 
Well, yeah. A pedophile is just someone who is sexually attracted to children. It's not someone who has actually touched a kid.


Actually I did not realize that...I feel a tad bit dumb ..I had to go Google it and your right ..a person who actually touches a child is not a pedophile but a child molester.. Thanks learned something new.
 
Actually I did not realize that...I feel a tad bit dumb ..I had to go Google it and your right ..a person who actually touches a child is not a pedophile but a child molester.. Thanks learned something new.

Nothing wrong with learning something. At least now I hope you understand when someone says they have empathy for a pedphile, they do not mean they have empathy for a child rapist. The two are not mutually exclusive. That's like calling me a murderer because I have a strong desire to kill certain people in rush hour traffic, but choose to just sit in my truck and fantasize about it.
 
That alone is enough for me to take the piss out of you but a closed minded man-hating bigot like yourself could never see the other side of the argument. I'll give you one undeniable fact; A grown man has every right and reason to approach a young girl if they are not of legal age in many factors; Providing he has good intent, which many would. She could be lost, she could be a missing run away child, she could be in distress, she may very well simply be fine, but to see a young girl all alone, not that I implied this is what happened in the related artical, would cause worry for someone like me and I would; at the very least make sure she was not in any danger before I went on my way. Stop man-hating you spiteful swine.

This is fucking hilarious. She don goofed. That's a mistake one never lives down. STD's are a BITCH. glad I'm clean and uninterested in sex.

They made a mistake but you're fucking skewed. Damaged and you're wrong to assume you or anyone can impose themselves on any child any place to make any inquires at all about their welfare or otherwise. You simply do not have that right. I don't let strange adults come up to me and make random inquires. I give them the I'm not supposed to talk to strangers routine...I know I am in my forties, but it still applies...Don't talk to strangers. I don't even let strangers touch my dog for fuck sakes. You sound almost disappointed that an STD could be the only repercussion for them.
 
That's like calling me a murderer because I have a strong desire to kill certain people in rush hour traffic, but choose to just sit in my truck and fantasize about it.

I pray an 'Our Father' for road rage...give us this day...forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who have trespassed against us.
 
This is the problem... Nobody is perfect, and I'm not saying they should go unpunished.. but time heals all wounds, unless there is murder, there is always a way to atone, be it via blood or otherwise. There is always a way to forgive, there is always a way to heal. I have faith in humanity. I love people, I so very much do, and I know from years of observing that 95% of pedophiles don't touch children. Those who do... Are monsters, but we all are. None of us is free of sin. And so, as a result, everybody deserves to have a door open when another closes. If somebody truly repents, if somebody makes up for what they've done, raping a child per example, and it is possible to trust them based objectively on their actions and behavior, then by all means they deserve that chance. Everybody makes mistakes. And some make them even worse than others. There is plenty worse than child rapists out there. Terrorists, murderers, what I like to call "Maimers" (basically torture that results in the loss of a limb or something else. Kind of like tearing somebodies eye out without killing them. Not murder, but pretty fucked up. Kind of like rapists, and basically on the same level as child rapists but in my opinion just a bit worse depending on the situation), etc. I simply have faith in humanity. I think you're a fucked up and sick minded individual if you cannot find the compassion and empathy in your own dried up heart to forgive somebody who truly makes an effort, and I mean TRULY, don't argue and say it doesn't happen because it does, TRULY make an effort to change and become a functioning upstanding member of society, who helps others more than not, if they are willing to truly reform, they deserve that chance. There is absolutely no logic that is not cruel and disgusting that says otherwise. If they have suffered their punishment and decided to reform, to make up for what they have done by helping those around them, then it matters not if the victim they have created forgives them. It's not the deciding factor. If you can tell they are sorry, a forgiveness is not needed. As long as they make up their wrongs for the rest of their life by doing what they can to make others happier above themselves, then by god, they deserve a chance. Nobody is perfect. Nobody is free of sin. We all have blood on our hands in one way or another directly or indirectly. Do not pretend you have the right to cast that unforgiving judgement upon somebody else.
Are you trying to write a fucking novel here? Your post are ridiculously long, and filled with bullshit. Quit attacking members on here because you don't agree with them. Why are you such a curmudgeon?
 
@Lauralye - I <3 you for your honesty in asking a question a LOT of people are too embarrassed to ask about a word even more people misunderstand/misuse. I know Morbid already answered your question and you already googled it for yourself (which beats the crap out of half the internet population right there, lol), so this isn't for you, m'dear. *S*

But, for any lurkers who may read this thread and wonder about the mechanics/working definition of how pedophilia is defined, I'm NO Wiki Warrior, but believe it not, this "Simple English" wiki breaks it down really well. Quickie general info on commonality and treatment @ link below, too.
Pedophilia
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Pedophilia
(paedophilia in British English) is when a person 16 years of age or older is primarily or exclusively sexually attracted to prepubescent children (children who have not begun puberty, generally 11 years old or less).[1][2][3][4][5] A person with pedophilia is called a pedophile. The prepubescent child must be at least five years younger than the person in the case of adolescent pedophiles before the attraction can be diagnosed as pedophilia.[1]

Medically, this condition is classified by the American Psychiatric Association as a mental disorder.[1][6] Some pedophiles have sex with children or use children in a sexual way. This is defined as "child sexual abuse" because children are defined to be unable to truly agree to sexual acts with an adult. Some adults have pedophilic feelings but do not act by sexually abusing children. Some adults who are not pedophiles commit sexual abuse against children.

Not all pedophiles feel or act in the same way. Since the 1880s, psychologists have studied and shown that different pedophiles might act in different ways:[7]

  • Some pedophiles are only sexually attracted to prepubescent children. They are called exclusive pedophiles.
  • Some pedophiles have a sexual preference for prepubescent children but are sexually attracted to adults as well. They are called preferential pedophiles.
  • Some adults who prefer adult sexual partners are also sexually attracted to prepubescent children.
Adults whose primary sexual attraction is for pubescent children are properly called hebephiles, not pedophiles. Adults whose primary sexual attraction is for mid-to-late teens are properly called ephebophiles, but ephebophilia is not considered abnormal by mental health professionals.

For pedophiles who commit child sexual abuse, some studies have shown that pedophiles who are only attracted to children may abuse more children than pedophiles who also have adult sexual partners.[8][9]

The people who abuse children are often known to them—such as parents, other relatives, and friends—and are not strangers.[10] One research study found that half the adults convicted of child sexual abuse of children outside of their family were also sexually abusing their own children.[11]

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia
 
Are you trying to write a fucking novel here? Your post are ridiculously long, and filled with bullshit. Quit attacking members on here because you don't agree with them. Why are you such a curmudgeon?
Because I have a soul sucking depression and I need you dumb fuckers to raise my blood pressure to stop myself from going insane. God I'm so fucking broken as a human being. I'm not even being sarcastic, you cunts are good for my health. Now get mad and cause more drama for me.

Eh, not exactly true... I can feel empathy for someone that has strong compulsions that are beyond their control yet they somehow manage to control them. It's not as if anyone wants to grow up and be a pedophile. As long as they don't act on it, I can feel as badly for them as I do an addict that is struggling to maintain sobriety. It's when they choose to NOT control the urges that I get all stabby and vengeful.

This is what I'm speaking about. God, I don't know, it's like my arguments on this subject aren't in vein?????

Actually I did not realize that...I feel a tad bit dumb ..I had to go Google it and your right ..a person who actually touches a child is not a pedophile but a child molester.. Thanks learned something new.

Wonderful, like I said, my efforts are not in vein. Now do everyone a favor and remember what you learned. And also keep in mind that witch hunting pedophiles only makes them better at hiding and more likely to fester on their urges and eventually acting on them rather than getting help if they need it. Hating them only hurts more children than it saves.

They made a mistake but you're fucking skewed. Damaged and you're wrong to assume you or anyone can impose themselves on any child any place to make any inquires at all about their welfare or otherwise. You simply do not have that right. I don't let strange adults come up to me and make random inquires. I give them the I'm not supposed to talk to strangers routine...I know I am in my forties, but it still applies...Don't talk to strangers. I don't even let strangers touch my dog for fuck sakes. You sound almost disappointed that an STD could be the only repercussion for them.
Alright so next time a child seems lost in a mall and is crying because they lost their mommy and some fucker is looking at the kid like a creep, I'll just walk away. Sound like a plan? Or how about next time I get an amber alert and recognize the car I just ignore it because I have no right to impose myself like that?
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Shut the fuck up you deluded muppet.
 
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Or how about next time I get an amber alert and recognize the car I just ignore it because I have no right to impose myself like that?

Amber Alerts are a call for all of our citizens to be vigilant in regards to very specific situations. You're being ridiculous.
 
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