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Child Pepper Sprayed After Reckless Parent Decides to Bring Them to Seattle Riot

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A young child was seen crying after being pepper sprayed in a heartbreaking video from a livestream in Seattle on Saturday.
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It is unclear what kind of reckless parent would bring their child to one of these riots, especially considering the amount of violence and destruction that we have watched play out at them for days.

The child appears to be with her father and another young sibling. The children were both dressed in Black Bloc attire, an Antifa militant tactic used to make it harder for police to identify people.

As she cried, protesters poured milk over her face in an effort to neutralize the chemicals.

People on social media have called for Child Protective Services to get involved, as her safety and well being is clearly not a priority for the parents.
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districtherald.com

Heartbreaking Video: Child Pepper Sprayed After Reckless Parent Decides to Bring Them to Seattle Riot

There is no excuse for this.
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That is disgusting. A child should never go through that, and should not be at these protest scenes.

I am very concerned with much of the footage I am seeing about these George Floyd and police brutality protests. While I cannot endorse some of the looting and vandalism, many of the police in these pieces of footage are using strong excessive force, particularly in New York City and, yes, Minneapolis. Journalists are getting arrested, peaceful protesters (and even disinterested parties) are getting assaulted via pepper spray and tear gas, and police are shooting people on their own properties (not with lethal weaponry, but still gratuitously).

The first image in the below link sticks out to me, because the man had his hands up, peacefully. The cop approached him, removed his mask, and pepper sprayed him. A woman, also linked below, was simply shopping for groceries and got rubber bulleted, causing excessive bleeding from her forehead.

www.vox.com

Images of police using violence against peaceful protesters are going viral

Police responded to protests across the nation with excessive force.
www.vox.com www.vox.com

Even my hometown has been affected by protests, and several businesses and buildings have been vandalized. It is not as severe as in other parts of the United States, but still existent and relevant.

This is not completely unexpected. Unemployment is exacerbated, a pandemic is putting particularly the USA into a position of hopeless submission, and we have a government with all three branches dominated, molded by, and subservient to the selfish whims and tantrums of a person who cares more about his need for power, comfort, and amusement than he does the lives of the citizens (and non-citizens, even) who make this nation what it is. If there was even a modicum of compassion from the executive branch; and a more urgent motivation to subdue Covid-19; and the police on a nationwide scale did not earn, through their actions, their reputation as hyper-violent, excessively strict, or systematically negatively biased against people of color (a.k.a. RACIST); this whole national situation would be far less likely to happen.

New Zealand, on the other hand, has handled the Covid-19 situation very well. It is down to only one active case, and is about to graduate to life as usual but with closed international borders. She is clearly not the only variable to consider about the Covid-19 response, but one of the significant reasons behind the low numbers of 1,504 historic cases and 22 deaths is because - at least I am of the impression of such - Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern truly cares about her nation.

www.nzherald.co.nz

Investors likely cheered by move to alert level 1

New Zealand could normalise nearly all activity sooner than expected.
www.nzherald.co.nz www.nzherald.co.nz

www.worldometers.info

New Zealand COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

New Zealand Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
www.worldometers.info www.worldometers.info

I usually do not get this political in posts, but how can I be indifferent to what is going on? I should say, though, I am glad my life is the way it is. I know I cannot control everything, and I do not want to take my positive circumstances for granted.

And to conclude:

Breaking the law in order to enforce the law nullifies the law.
 
GoneWest said:
Just to be clear I don’t agree with anyone bringing a child to these dangerous protests.
But can anyone seriously buy into that this is what this reporter cares about? This child?

This article is purely political and does not belong on this forum.
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How is a child being exposed to a dangerous situation political? If the parents had exposed this child to exploring in a dangerous, closed mine shaft D'D would be all over it. Why is this any different?
 
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So it's pretty obvious the posted site isn't a very liberal publication. But just because it's not CNN we shouldn't post a story about an asshat parent bringing a young child (or two) to what had obviously turned from a peaceful protest and gathering to a herd of looting and rioters?

Look, I don't give a fuck what anyone's political leanings are, but you don't take a kid to something like this. Just fucking no.
 
I read about this previously. I feel awful for that girl. She got hurt because the people that are supposed to be protecting her are trying harder to be part of a statement than thinking of her best interest. I have little patience for all movements, no matter who they involve, and my kids don’t think they live in a perfect society and we’ve tried to explain what’s been happening, but I sure as shit am not endangering them and prejudicing their views before they have a chance to form them by taking them to a riot to get maced.
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Symmachus said:
This is not completely unexpected. Unemployment is exacerbated, a pandemic is putting particularly the USA into a position of hopeless submission, and we have a government with all three branches dominated, molded by, and subservient to the selfish whims and tantrums of a person who cares more about his need for power, comfort, and amusement than he does the lives of the citizens (and non-citizens, even) who make this nation what it is. If there was even a modicum of compassion from the executive branch; and a more urgent motivation to subdue Covid-19; and the police on a nationwide scale did not earn, through their actions, their reputation as hyper-violent, excessively strict, or systematically negatively biased against people of color (a.k.a. RACIST); this whole national situation would be far less likely to happen.

New Zealand, on the other hand, has handled the Covid-19 situation very well. It is down to only one active case, and is about to graduate to life as usual but with closed international borders. She is clearly not the only variable to consider about the Covid-19 response, but one of the significant reasons behind the low numbers of 1,504 historic cases and 22 deaths is because - at least I am of the impression of such - Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern truly cares about her nation.
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A lot of the issue with Covid right now is due to a lot of stupid people in our country being too selfish or cavalier to try to stay well or they think they won’t get sick. I am one of the only non employees at any store in my town to still wear a mask and that’s not unusual in a lot of places. People are as responsible for their own well-being as much as any government is.
 
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caitierig said:
I read about this previously. I feel awful for that girl. She got hurt because the people that are supposed to be protecting her are trying harder to be part of a statement than thinking of her best interest. I have little patience for all movements, no matter who they involve, and my kids don’t think they live in a perfect society and we’ve tried to explain what’s been happening, but I sure as shit am not endangering them and prejudicing their views before they have a chance to form them by taking them to a riot to get maced.
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A lot of the issue with Covid right now is due to a lot of stupid people in our country being too selfish or cavalier to try to stay well or they think they won’t get sick. I am one of the only non employees at any store in my town to still wear a mask and that’s not unusual in a lot of places. People are as responsible for their own well-being as much as any government is.
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Very good point there, and absolutely true.
 
Seriously? No one else has a problem with this bullshit article from what basically boils downs to a radical right wing nut jobs web site?

So we’re just going to post anything we find now as legitimate news?

Just asking, because go ahead and google Districtherald.com and see what you find.

No one is advocating bringing children into dangerous situations, but I find it interesting that this article NEVER even alludes to Why this child was tear gassed to begin with and by who? I guess no one one cares about that.

This is my favorite quote,
“The child appears to be with her father and another young sibling. The children were both dressed in Black Bloc attire, an Antifa militant tactic used to make it harder for police to identify people.”

Seriously??? What the fuck does that even mean? The little girl was dressed in “Black Bloc” so when the police shot her with tear gas they wouldn’t confuse her with another little girl they just blinded.

I am honest to god confused as to why this didn’t make people more angry.

I just answered my own question. My anger wasn’t about children, because the article was never really about children at all.
 
Sugar Cookie said:
It is about a child and all parties that put that child in danger.
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Darn right! No one is making up or exaggerating the fact that an adult took that girl to a riot. No police deliberately targeted a child with tear gas, but she was in the danger zone because her father was an idiot to take her.
That is the undeniable problem no matter who reported the story..
 
Sugar Cookie said:
@GoneWest

You are disrespecting me, whether or not that is your intention.

I always have and will continue to make it about the children.

It is about a child and all parties that put that child in danger.
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I honestly don't want to argue with anyone here anymore. If I am being questioned on my integrity let me know @GoneWest

Dead Stephanie said:
Instead of getting that kid out of there, they drowned the kid in milk. WTF
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That is why I posted the image should we shy away from some abuse because it makes us uncomfortable?

Muriel Schwenck said:
Darn right! No one is making up or exaggerating the fact that an adult took that girl to a riot. No police deliberately targeted a child with tear gas, but she was in the danger zone because her father was an idiot to take her.
That is the undeniable problem no matter who reported the story..
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I heard of this story from Tim Pool and used his link to bring us the story here. Yes I could have found other links but I assumed we were all adults here who care about the mistreatment of any child.
 
The Seattle police watchdog decided Friday that an officer who pepper-sprayed a seven-year-old child during an anti-racism protest did not violate the department's policy.

The Office of Police Accountability received 13,000 complaints after a video of the boy screaming 'I can't see' while being doused in milk by other protesters went viral following a May 30 demonstration.

OPA Director Andrew Myerberg deemed that the officer had not intended to hit the child and did not realize the boy was in his line of fire when he started to pepper-spray a woman standing immediately in front on him.

Myerberg described body-cam and social media footage of the incident as 'heartbreaking' but claimed that it did not mean the the officer was guilty of excessive use of force.

The seven-year-old had been at a protest with his father which was largely peaceful.

However, a woman shown in video masked in a white t-shirt and bike helmet grabbed the baton of an officer and began shoving.

The cop, a sergeant who has not been identified, was among those who rushed to aid riot-armor-clad officers stretched across Third Avenue after police pulled a man behind the police lines to arrest him for an earlier incident, the investigation said.

When some of the protesters began jostling, he unleashed a cannister of pepper spray at the woman with a blast ball in the other hand. The spray hit the child when the woman ducked out of the way and he received a hit of powerful irritant in his eyes.

From the moment of the arrest of the protester to the officer deploying the pepper-spray only took 25 seconds.

After the boy was hit, his father takes him aside and can be seen shouting at officers.

Myerberg said that he understood the upset about the video but that he was willing to shoulder the flak for his decision.

After his review of social media video and a number of body-cam videos, he deemed the officer wouldn't have been able to see the child among the crowd of adults, meaning the boy was not the intended target.

'I understand that this decision will be unpalatable to a lot of people. I accept that,' Myerberg told the Seattle Times. 'In some respects, it is unpalatable to me as well.'

'I really struggled with this one,' he added. 'Because there is a victim here: the child. It's heartbreaking to watch it.'

The boy's family have said they are unhappy with the decision.


David Owen, a Seattle civil-rights attorney representing the child and his father, Mando Avery, told the Seattle Times that they were 'deeply disappointed, but not surprised, by the result reached by the OPA'.

'Today, they have confirmed that it is the Seattle Police Department's position that the use of pepper spray in an intentional and reckless manner that it would strike an innocent child exercising their First Amendment rights is 'within policy',' he said.

'We understand the OPA has said it is "sorry" for these actions. But "sorry" and "regret" is not sufficient. We demand change.'

Owen added that no cop tried to help the child after he was sprayed and claimed the refusal to identify the officer responsible 'undermined the claims of objectivity and transparency that the City purports to value'.
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www.dailymail.co.uk

Officer pepper-spraying child at Seattle protest DIDN'T violate policy

The Office of Police Accountability found a Seattle police officer was not guilty of misconduct when he pepper-sprayed a seven-year-old boy at a May 30 protest.
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I wonder what the police could do to help the pepper-sprayed child recover any faster.

Did they keep the parents from facing the child into the prevailing winds to flush out the pepper spray, or is there something else they should have done? If there is then I wish the attorney would explain what that was.

--Al
 
Alf said:
I wonder what the police could do to help the pepper-sprayed child recover any faster.

Did they keep the parents from facing the child into the prevailing winds to flush out the pepper spray, or is there something else they should have done? If there is then I wish the attorney would explain what that was.

--Al
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The problem is that the father wouldn't let anyone near the kid. So even if the officers had a counter for the irritant, they wouldn't have been able to administer anything.
Just like the idiot that was on fire, and the protesters wouldn't let an officer with a fire extinguisher close.
 
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