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Woman "Distraught" After Being Charged for Miscarrying

Turd Fergusen

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TRUMBULL COUNTY, Ohio (CNN) - An Ohio woman who sought treatment at a hospital before suffering a miscarriage and then eventually miscarried in her bathroom is now facing criminal charges.

After the death of her 22-week-old fetus, Brittany Watts felt “distraught, heartbroken, empty,” according to texts she sent to television station WJW.

A coroner’s report and 911 call obtained by CNN detail the days before and after the miscarriage that led to her arrest and felony charge.

In mid-September, Watts visited Saint Joseph Hospital multiple times and was told her water had broken and her fetus would not survive.

Medical staff recommended Watts be induced into labor, according to the report.

At first, she declined medical care but later returned to the hospital, intending to give birth.

According to a Washington Post interview with Watts’ attorney, Watts waited eight hours to give birth as doctors and officials considered whether inducing her would violate Ohio’s abortion laws, so she went home.

Two days later, she miscarried in a toilet.

Watts returned to the hospital a third time, after her miscarriage, where hospital staff called the police.

Investigators found the fetus still stuck in the toilet at Watt’s home.

Watts now faces a felony charge for abuse of a corpse.

The coroner’s report states the fetus died in utero.

“The issue isn’t how the child died, when the child died. It’s the fact that the baby was put into a toilet,” Warren, Ohio assistant prosecutor Lewis Guarnieri said.

Watts’ attorney told CNN in a statement, “There is no law in Ohio that requires a mother suffering a miscarriage to bury or cremate those remains. Women miscarry into toilets every day.”

Katie Watson, a bioethicist and associate professor at Northwestern Medicine, called the criminal charge “absurd.”

“I think this is an example of a woman violating feelings rules. She didn’t perform sadness, and she didn’t perform respect in a way that the prosecutors could recognize, and so they chose to punish her with the prosecution,” she said.

Watts’ case has set off a heated debate over criminalizing pregnancy outcomes, including miscarriages.

“This is about misunderstanding miscarriage and how it works. It’s about misunderstanding the psychological and psychiatric reactions that some people have during and after a miscarriage,” Watson said.

Abortion-rights group Ohio Physicians for Reproductive Rights is urging prosecutors to drop the case. The group’s co-founder Dr. Marcela Azevedo told CNN the risk to other women facing non-viable pregnancies is enormous.

“The criminalization of her pregnancy outcomes further stigmatizes both abortion and pregnancy. It certainly, particularly affects communities that are Black and brown, and it creates a bigger discrepancy and doesn’t allow them to feel safe,” she said.
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Woman ‘distraught’ after being charged for miscarrying

After the death of her 22-week-old fetus, Brittany Watts felt “distraught, heartbroken, empty."
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She tried to flush her baby.I hope she’s unbelievably distraught now and for the rest of her miserable existence. I have a childhood friend who 12yrs ago was pregnant with twin girls.Reece and Rachel.Both of them passed away when she was about 8months along.my friend April had to be induced and go through a horrible labor and delivery knowing they were gone and this one was just fine with FLUSHING her baby. Bullet for her she serves no purpose in the world. you’re ok with flushing a tiny beautiful baby you don’t need to breathe
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Future_Milf said:
She ignored medical advice and flushed a preemie. While I'm 100% prochoice, this rat faced cunt deserves everything coming her way. P. S. She's charged with abusing a corpse, because she did.
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I’m so sad. I wholeheartedly agree with you. I hope the other ladies(wherever she’s jailed)are aware of what she did and act accordingly
 
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Ellen Brody said:
She tried to flush her baby.I hope she’s unbelievably distraught now and for the rest of her miserable existence. I have a childhood friend who 12yrs ago was pregnant with twin girls.Reece and Rachel.Both of them passed away when she was about 8months along.my friend April had to be induced and go through a horrible labor and delivery knowing they were gone and this one was just fine with FLUSHING her baby. Bullet for her she serves no purpose in the world. you’re ok with flushing a tiny beautiful baby you don’t need to breathe
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I’m so sad. I wholeheartedly agree with you. I hope the other ladies(wherever she’s jailed)are aware of what she did and act accordingly
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She'll likely enjoy the amenities of protective custody, sadly.
 
Turd Fergusen said:
Am I missing something? I don't see anything about her trying to flush the fetus. It sounds like she miscarried into the toilet and rushed to the hospital. I mean if she tried to actually flush it that could be abuse. Guess we'll need to learn more.
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Additionally, she carried it 22 weeks, doctors were debating whether it would violate Ohio abortion ban...
 
1) she refused medical help 2) she went home instead of waiting to see what could be done on her second visit to e.r. and " Investigators found the fetus still stuck in the toilet" no just found in toilet tells me she did indeed try to flush a fair size around 11 inches and around 1 pound formed fetus.... yes lots of women miscarried in toilet but usually very early in pregnancy and flush cuz really not a very big fetus by then ...
 
What would you all have liked her to do with the fetus??

As an only child who wanted nothing more than to have a brother or sister, and was told by her asshole father (the divorce was complete by then) at age 5 that I had had one, but my mother flushed it down the toilet, I have an opinion on this.

Fuck Warren, Ohio and fuck prosecuterLewis Guarnieri.

HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of women miscarry over the toilet yearly.


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Refused treatment?

Here's how it went:
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How many hours, days, should she have waited for them to decide if they would help her or not??

A lot of, well, MOST women, don't talk a lot about their miscarriages, do they? But we all know someone who has had one.

Did you pepper her with questions about what happened to the fetus?
Pry and demand answers because YOU and the GOVERNMENT have the right to know about this horrible, private, personal moment? :penguin:

You might find out they did the same thing. Would you have called the police on them?


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When I got home that day from visitation with my father I asked my mom.
She explained it to 5 year old me because my father had forced this.
She'd been 9 weeks along in her pregnancy, I was about about 18 months old when it happened.

I felt sorry for her. Sorry she'd lost a pregnancy she'd very much wanted, sorry he tried to use her pain to shame her and turn me against her, and sorry she'd married such a spiteful, mean, horrid man who would try to hurt me to hurt her.

She didn't tell me to think that. To her credit, she never said anything negative about him.

Do I wish she'd fished out my "sister" from the toilet, driven to a hospital, and sat in the waiting room for hours with a fetus in a bag? Why?

My father's spite knew no bounds.
After my mother's funeral I wandered around the local cemetery and came across a grave stone I'd known nothing about.
It was for "Baby Firozabad".
An empty grave and marker for a child my father wouldn't have given two shits about if the pregnancy had gone full term.

It was to punish and try to humiliate my mother for divorcing him.


This case is not much different.
 
runninfawn said:
1) she refused medical help 2) she went home instead of waiting to see what could be done on her second visit to e.r. and " Investigators found the fetus still stuck in the toilet" no just found in toilet tells me she did indeed try to flush a fair size around 11 inches and around 1 pound formed fetus.... yes lots of women miscarried in toilet but usually very early in pregnancy and flush cuz really not a very big fetus by then ...
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At first, she declined medical care but later returned to the hospital, intending to give birth.

According to a Washington Post interview with Watts’ attorney, Watts waited eight hours to give birth as doctors and officials considered whether inducing her would violate Ohio’s abortion laws, so she went home.

Two days later, she miscarried in a toilet.
 
thuumpr said:
At first, she declined medical care but later returned to the hospital, intending to give birth.

According to a Washington Post interview with Watts’ attorney, Watts waited eight hours to give birth as doctors and officials considered whether inducing her would violate Ohio’s abortion laws, so she went home.

Two days later, she miscarried in a toilet.
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i caught that she went home after waiting 8 hours but did she just leave or was she discharged??? big difference there... but again if the fetus had no chance of survival (water had broken ) would it be an abortion or removal of a no chance of survival or dead fetus?? and yes also the danger to the mother's health if it wasn't remove?? i don't understand the laws of abortion when it comes to a proble like that... but she is in trouble with the law only for the remains being stuck in toilet... i know people re-act dif but she had a pretty good idea that she would carry so a miscarriage was in the near future .. it should have have come as a shock when the miscarriage happened... i know even with my first miscarriage (11 weeks) i did scoop the fetus and brought it with me (didn't drive so emt) and did the same thing for the other miscarriages i had (never could carry past 3 months )...
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runninfawn said:
i caught that she went home after waiting 8 hours but did she just leave or was she discharged??? big difference there... but again if the fetus had no chance of survival (water had broken ) would it be an abortion or removal of a no chance of survival or dead fetus?? and yes also the danger to the mother's health if it wasn't remove?? i don't understand the laws of abortion when it comes to a proble like that... but she is in trouble with the law only for the remains being stuck in toilet... i know people re-act dif but she had a pretty good idea that she would carry so a miscarriage was in the near future .. it should have have come as a shock when the miscarriage happened... i know even with my first miscarriage (11 weeks) i did scoop the fetus and brought it with me (didn't drive so emt) and did the same thing for the other miscarriages i had (never could carry past 3 months )...
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what got me is the dif. between the size of a 11 week fetus and a 22 weeks fetus ... there is no way that size of a fetus could be flushed so how to dispose of it other than bring it with you when you go or was driven to e.r. ??? otherwise the law would still get you for abuse of a corpse ...
 
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Ellen Brody said:
She tried to flush her baby.I hope she’s unbelievably distraught now and for the rest of her miserable existence. I have a childhood friend who 12yrs ago was pregnant with twin girls.Reece and Rachel.Both of them passed away when she was about 8months along.my friend April had to be induced and go through a horrible labor and delivery knowing they were gone and this one was just fine with FLUSHING her baby. Bullet for her she serves no purpose in the world. you’re ok with flushing a tiny beautiful baby you don’t need to breathe
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I’m so sad. I wholeheartedly agree with you. I hope the other ladies(wherever she’s jailed)are aware of what she did and act accordingly
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you load the gun I will pull the trigger
 
Josh P said:
Sounds like the plot to a porno
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I laughed even though I didn’t want to :) I still can’t figure out how you guys got emojis. I like using them because a lot gets lost in translation so they help relaying if you’re joking or being sarcastic etc.Something sounds a certain way in your head but it can be misinterpreted so easily
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Ellen Brody said:
I laughed even though I didn’t want to :) I still can’t figure out how you guys got emojis. I like using them because a lot gets lost in translation so they help relaying if you’re joking or being sarcastic etc.Something sounds a certain way in your head but it can be misinterpreted so easily
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I don’t know how I did that. I did the : and ) and the little face showed up.
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I don’t get it
 
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I laughed even though I didn’t want to :) I still can’t figure out how you guys got emojis. I like using them because a lot gets lost in translation so they help relaying if you’re joking or being sarcastic etc.Something sounds a certain way in your head but it can be misinterpreted so easily
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I don’t know how I did that. I did the : and ) and the little face showed up.
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I don’t get it
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You ain't by all yourself on that one. There's a lot I don't understand either, but at this point in my life, I don't care.
 
An Ohio woman facing a criminal charge for her handling of a home miscarriage will not be charged, a grand jury decided Thursday.

The Trumbull County prosecutor’s office said grand jurors declined to return an indictment for abuse of a corpse against Brittany Watts, 34, of Warren, resolving a case that had sparked national attention for its implications for pregnant women as states across the country hash out new laws governing reproductive health care access.

The announcement came hours before her supporters planned a “We Stand With Brittany!” rally on Warren’s Courthouse Square.

A municipal judge had found probable cause to bind over Watts’ case. That was after city prosecutors said she miscarried, flushed and scooped out the toilet, then left the house, leaving the 22-week-old fetus lodged in the pipes. Her attorney told the judge Watts had no criminal record and was being “demonized for something that goes on every day.” An autopsy determined the fetus died in utero and identified “no recent injuries.”

Watts had visited Mercy Health-St. Joseph’s Hospital, a Catholic facility in working-class Warren, about 60 miles (100 kilometers) southeast of Cleveland, twice in the days leading up to her miscarriage. Her doctor had told her she was carrying a nonviable fetus and to have her labor induced or risk “significant risk” of death, according to records of her case.

Due to delays and other complications, her attorney said, she left each time without being treated. After she miscarried, she tried to go to a hair appointment, but friends sent her to the hospital. A nurse called 911 to report a previously pregnant patient had returned reporting, “the baby’s in her backyard in a bucket.”

That call launched a police investigation that led to the eventual charge against Watts.
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Ohio woman who miscarried at home won't be charged with corpse abuse, grand jury decides

An Ohio woman who miscarried on a home toilet and then left will not be criminally charged for her handling of a home miscarriage. The Trumbull County prosecutor’s office says
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Sejanus said:
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Have also seen them compared to a sweet potato.
Will that even flush?
Do you plunger it?
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Sweet potatoes and corn cobs are rigid, inflexible.

Maybe this will help put it into perspective as far as a visual.
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As for the other question , the largest part of a fetus is the head, and the average BPD (measurement from one side of the head to the other) at 22 weeks is 53mm.

The standard diameter for a toilet trapway is typically around 2 to 2.375 inches,


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