'Permit Karen' Calls Police on Black Neighbors After Storming Their Home 3 Times & Asked if They had Permission to Build a Patio

[McDanel]

Sounds like he was an awesome dude! I know he kept things interesting for you. \m/
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This. People like this bitch thrive on semantic fuckery and playing little word games, and there's no logic in their little rat-like brains, so engaging them is like building a castle on quicksand. And playing those little games is what they get off on, so why would you give them that?

I become like glass when I'm dealing with someone like this... I give 'em nothing to get a grip on. Sticking to a singular declarative statement like "get off of our property now or I'm calling the police for trespassing" is a great way to go glassy.

And it really pisses someone like this off, because they can't stand to not be in control of a situation.

I have lived next to one of these wretched souls since 1998. About 5 years in, I realized she was feeding off the drama. So I starved her.

 

[Da Mac]

What's important is that Karen has her career. Screw happiness!

 

[Ramona the brave]

Ok but....

That's not systemic racism. None of her white neighbors wanted to corroborate her story because it's not systemic.

Do you want to see the other side? Racism exists. Both ways. You'd have to be an idiot to doubt whether racism exists. It's everywhere you look now.

But no I was actually coming to say "Why can't she just be a crazy loon?" Unless I glossed over the very clear racism she expressed.

I dont think walking down her street chanting "Black Lives Matter!" is helping anyone. And technically it was a black permit but I digress ..

Ok but... In order to be racist, you actually have to believe that one race is inferior to another.

And even if/when a black person's beliefs meet that criteria (which tbh is quite rare, unless they've internalized the belief that black=bad, which is common), the level of harm that it does to white people is truly negligible by comparison. acism isn't bad because it makes people sad or "offended." It's actually harmful.

Total sidetrack... I think the whole language of "offensive" needs to be changed. Many things are "offensive" (i.e. make people feel some type of way) but not harmful. And vice versa.

 

[BiPolarBear88]

Ok but....

Ok but... In order to be racist, you actually have to believe that one race is inferior to another.

And even if/when a black person's beliefs meet that criteria (which tbh is quite rare, unless they've internalized the belief that black=bad, which is common), the level of harm that it does to white people is truly negligible by comparison. acism isn't bad because it makes people sad or "offended." It's actually harmful.

Total sidetrack... I think the whole language of "offensive" needs to be changed. Many things are "offensive" (i.e. make people feel some type of way) but not harmful. And vice versa.

Your response and thinking is partly why racism will NEVER go away. It wasn't white people who stirred up the race war. Well liberal white people "helping" black people played the biggest part but that's not the white people you see reacting to what they perceive as racism towards white people.

Your explanation? Is total horseshit. And you're not describing racism. That inferiority business is "supremacy" and not racism. White supremacists are obviously racists.

You just have to hate someone because of the color of their skin to qualify as a racist. Therefore you can use racial slurs and still not be racist, if you're slurring them on the content of their character. Most slurs are actually said in anger and not hate. It's more of an anger management situation.

Did you really describe that a black person has to hate black people to be racist? Most black racists hate WHITE people. Not BLACK people.

Here's some emotional intelligence for you. White people think of slavery? The majority would feel shame and guilt. You see it everywhere.

Black people are more likely to feel shame and anger.

What two emotions do you think drive racism further? Shame and guilt, or shame and anger? It's quite simple.

White people are not angry about slavery ending. We feel guilty that it ever happened in the first place. It took me years to get over that guilt. A lot of maturity too. I have nothing to feel guilty about. I've never fucked over anyone because of the color of their skin. I'm unapologetically white. Guess what? I never asked to be born at all... Much less white.

 

[Muriel Schwenck]

It took me years to get over that guilt.

Why did you feel guilt if you had nothing to do with it?

 

[BiPolarBear88]

Why did you feel guilt if you had nothing to do with it?

Because "my ancestors" who I never knew, did some shit to other people's ancestors that they never knew. It's ridiculous. It's not my burden.

I didn't have many white friends growing up. If I showed you my photos of me with my friends? I'm the only white guy. I heard all of the racist stereotypes. Never once saw any of it happen to them. It's just unproven narrative. Statistics spit in the face of it all too. I was a team player though. I carried shit a lot of the time because I was the white guy lol. Police weren't going to bug me. I've been randomly stopped 4 or 5 times by the police... Always by myself. One lonesome white kid.

It's also Liberalism too. That's what I was taught to feel. I was taught to view people as victims which is completely racist when you're not factoring in someone's individual life experiences.

The education system is responsible for this outrageous shit going on everywhere. White guilt. White privilege. They teach it. Right through university. University professors with their fuck the police mantras. Shameful.
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And I should clarify that these narratives were once prevalent and stats then would have proved it. They don't anymore. They prove the opposite.
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I've never felt guilty for being white. I felt guilty for what my ancestors did... Because I'm white. So I pretty much was feeling guilty for being white, I just wouldn't have worded it like that.

I'm almost 32, I grew up in a different time. Black history month was a big thing. Anti-racism assemblies. We had a gay club in high school. Run by a gay teacher.

That's creepy as fuck now when I think about it. I get the support but sexual orientation? Your bonding with students based on that? It's creepy to me. In fairness the gay community wasn't as open almost 20 years ago as it is now. Still really inappropriate when you think about it.

 

[Muriel Schwenck]

I felt guilty for what my ancestors did... Because I'm white.

That's just silly. Glad you are over it.

 

[knockout]

My ancestors didn’t enslave anyone in this country, therefore I feel no guilt, is that wrong?

 

[BiPolarBear88]

That's just silly. Glad you are over it.

It wasn't anything to get over. Just critical thinking. I know that catering to victimhood doesn't help. It actually hurts.

So that whole white privilege bullshit? All it does is hurt white people and black people. The ones that aren't intelligent enough to think for themselves anyway.
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Just look at where racism has gone in 5 years. It was Liberals. Clear as day. Acknowledging that all lives matter wasn't enough.

That's how we were taught equality growing up. We were taught that all lives matter equally. Now to say that is racist. That's what happens when radicalism enters mainstream. Everybody ignored it in the name of political correctness.

The other side? Radicalism and extremism is so easy to see. It's not a gray area. White Supremacy. That's where the line is clearly drawn.
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It's not even liberalism. Conservative views are closer to equality than liberal views now. It's not even debatable.

Pro-life is the only one that they'll probably never budge on and it's religion. I'm pro-choice, but I understand the other side. The other side views that child as an equal human being who isn't being afforded the right to make their own choice.
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Sorry for the politics. I don't care either way. It's not about winning. It's not about who is going to be president. It's the racism and hate that they're driving. Riling up racists that were mostly dormant.

 

[Blizzard]

• There is no excuse for shaming based upon any aspect of someone's ancestry, including if all of someone's great-great-grandparents were pre-civil-war plantation owners and overseers. In modern societies (which does not include North Korea), children are not to be stigmatized for the actions or inactions of parents or ancestors.
• The definition of racism is a moving target. People's definitions differ, and some people re-define it to fit an agenda. Discussions about racism cannot be sensical unless the people discussing the term can first agree upon what it means.
• To assume that all white Americans are descendants of pre-civil-war slave owners is to be wrong, and reflects ignorance about, or denial of, USA's immigration and population history.
• Black people who have made the above point a focus for resentment might instead note the historical fact that it was not uncommon for slave owners to rape slave women and sell the resulting children off as 'mulatto' slaves. A number of African Americans today have this in their ancestry. If someone who identifies as black wants to point a finger of hatred at whites for assumed 'slaver' ancestry, getting a DNA test done on themselves might bring a shift in maturity to their perspective.

 

[Ramona the brave]

Your response and thinking is partly why racism will NEVER go away. It wasn't white people who stirred up the race war. Well liberal white people "helping" black people played the biggest part but that's not the white people you see reacting to what they perceive as racism towards white people.

Your explanation? Is total horseshit. And you're not describing racism. That inferiority business is "supremacy" and not racism. White supremacists are obviously racists.

You just have to hate someone because of the color of their skin to qualify as a racist. Therefore you can use racial slurs and still not be racist, if you're slurring them on the content of their character. Most slurs are actually said in anger and not hate. It's more of an anger management situation.

Did you really describe that a black person has to hate black people to be racist? Most black racists hate WHITE people. Not BLACK people.

Here's some emotional intelligence for you. White people think of slavery? The majority would feel shame and guilt. You see it everywhere.

Black people are more likely to feel shame and anger.

What two emotions do you think drive racism further? Shame and guilt, or shame and anger? It's quite simple.

White people are not angry about slavery ending. We feel guilty that it ever happened in the first place. It took me years to get over that guilt. A lot of maturity too. I have nothing to feel guilty about. I've never fucked over anyone because of the color of their skin. I'm unapologetically white. Guess what? I never asked to be born at all... Much less white.

Dude, no one is asking you to feel guilty. I don't feel guilty for being white and I don't feel guilty about slavery. I do take a very rational view of how it has impacted society though. You can be aware of (and against) racism without feeling guilty about being white. I don't feel guilty about Nazis just because I'm of German descent. I'm still anti-Nazi. How hard is that to understand?

Yeah, black people are angry. You would be too if you were black. I'm not sure what your point is? That black people shouldn't feel any type of way about historical or current racism?

I don't even know where to begin with the rest of that rant. I'm sorry you don't get it. Maybe talk to some black people, idk.

I'm really sick of the politics on every goddamn post. Take your shit over to the dumpster fire... Most of us are here for the true crime. And lots of good people seem to have left because of this ongoing political bs.