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Craygor

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This man will be tortured for the rest of his life if he does not take his own life, as well as his family.
So, you're saying he is even more of a piece of shit if you believe that not only was he so fucking careless and unconcerned for his son's safety that he decided to pound back a few cold ones and then take his little son for a death ride, but he also capable of murdering the remainder of his family over his "grief"?
 

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lithiumgirl

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Suicide is painless if you do it right ... @wendylburton.

I recommend the short hang ... its easy ... and its cheap. Its not messy at all ... you can pretty much use any material you have on hand.

like a bed sheet, or your underwear ... tee shirt ... sandwich wrap. And its quick too.

Twist ... twist ... twist ... and then twist a little more when you hear the train and you're pretty much there.

It doesn't hurt a single bit ... you feel no pain at all, because you're kind of busy wondering where the

train came from.

Its far less pain full than being a grieving parent.
 

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lithiumgirl

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Two beers in an hour would not put a 175lb man anywhere near the legal limit. Two 12

ounce beers would put him about .03, two 16 ounce beers about .05 - both less than half the legal limit. Even a 95lb weakling would squeak in under the limit..
This isn't that reliable ... I did it twice ... once at 125 lbs ... and then again at 180 lbs ... the results were the pretty much the same

just under 0.05 and at 0.05 ... it suggested I shouldn't drive.
 
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lithiumgirl

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I have never drove while drunk.
Me either ... I'm not selfish enough for it.

I know a family that got really fucked up by a drunk driver ... she lost her leg.

He had just retired from the air force ... they just wanted to stay in one place and enjoy their golden years.

But nope ... drunk driver !

I'm just too scared of hurting somebody ... how would you ever cause this much damage and live it down,

Impossible I think.
 

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benaisbomb

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They honestly think he is innocent. Like hello, Gray his dad was an LEO. He of all people should be trying to uphold the laws and justice systems. But since it's his idiot son he is being a sheep like all the other family in this case.
 

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ChaosKitty

Queen Bitch From Hell
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They honestly think he is innocent. Like hello, Gray his dad was an LEO. He of all people should be trying to uphold the laws and justice systems. But since it's his idiot son he is being a sheep like all the other family in this case.
or because of it, in Calif that badge pretty much makes them think they can get away with murder and does
 

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lithiumgirl

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or because of it, in Calif that badge pretty much makes them think they can get away with murder and does
I think that is true every where ...

You know, the people I am most afraid of are cops, and doctors and judges.

Sometimes when i see a judge give out a really long sentence, like 150 years to a pedo ... I usually assume that judge is a pedo.

Like they are putting right out there ... there is no way I could be a pedo ... look at the sentence i just gave this guy.
 

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Sudonim

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Hi, this is all very, very sad. My heart goes out to this family and the dad. Every human being and parent has made a mistake or error in judgment when it comes to raising children, but very few have ever had to pay such a high price for it. It is human to error. This man will be tortured for the rest of his life if he does not take his own life, as well as his family. I feel in my heart that compassion and love towards this family is the only appropriate response at a time like this. This man did not intentionally try to take the life of his son. I am not sure how ongoing anger and blame helps in this situation. My heart aches for this family and the pain they will have to endure for the rest of their lives. This is truly a tragedy for this family, the little boy that lost his life and the community. I think love, compassion and understanding is what is needed right now. Thank you for reading my post.
You act like this is all some terrible accident. By the very definition, it cant be. An accident is something that results in an outcome no one could reasonably assume would happen. It could be negligence.. maybe..if he could possibly play down the fact that he's a habitual drunk with more than 1 DUI conviction. There isnt a person in any western country that does not know that drinking and driving kills. Or that it's illegal. Or that there's a very real chance you kill someone.

He knowingly consumed alcohol and then drove with his babies....

Have you forgiven your child's killer? I mean it could be just a terrible tragedy after all. They might not have meant to kill your child. Yes Im being a snarky cunt but you come on here saying you're an expert on child death and that we should show compassion and when people bark back, you start the toddler antics. What you don't know is a majority of us here aren't only armchair warriors. Most of us have either been victims or have family who have/are victims of some pretty horrific things, including murder. Your opinion holds no more weight than any of ours do, and in fact it probably holds less considering you're giving him a pass on something illegal he did that resulted in the death of his own child.
 
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ScoutK

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This isn't that reliable ... I did it twice ... once at 125 lbs ... and then again at 180 lbs ... the results were the pretty much the same

just under 0.05 and at 0.05 ... it suggested I shouldn't drive.
Hmm, something went awry. I've never had that happen on any BAC I've used.

Here are the results from a completely random one I just pulled up:

2 beers, 2 hours, 130-lb female: .07
2 beers, 2 hours, 180-lb female: .04

And every result generally starts with DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE which is a disclaimer and not related to specific results. You either made a typo or there was a glitch on the site you used. If you can replicate the result, lmk and I'll inform the web master they have a glitch.
 

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lithiumgirl

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Hmm, something went awry. I've never had that happen on any BAC I've used.

Here are the results from a completely random one I just pulled up:

2 beers, 2 hours, 130-lb female: .07
2 beers, 2 hours, 180-lb female: .04

And every result generally starts with DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE which is a disclaimer and not related to specific results. You either made a typo or there was a glitch on the site you used. If you can replicate the result, lmk and I'll inform the web master they have a glitch.

You do that ... but I don't need an on line Breathalyzer anyway ... its not a tool that I would use on any occasion except this one, because I'm not an alcoholic .. .and if I was drinking I wouldn't consider consulting an on line calculator to determine if I should drive or not ... It would just be a solid ... NO. Key's please car service ... uber ... taxi's, attending an event with a sober companion are all options I would consider first.
 
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chupamela

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WOOWWW..... I think we have a Full Spectrum Multi Personality Troll on this comment thread cus I'm pretty sure Burton and Shit are the same person. I should be able to prove it seeing how a FSMPT can't resist creating another identity/account so they can talk more dumb shit .... (here goes)

@wendyshit
I give a literal negative-infinity fucks about what what's going on in the father's head weather it be past, present, future,or just in theory, what he did is a felony criminal homicide, if he kept his drunk ass home there wouldn't be a dead 2 y/o to write about in the first place.Sorry if you're a mother of a murder victim (serious) but, one would think you'd side with the 2y/o victim in the story more than the person who killed him, and it doesn't give you the right to act crazy to the people who are reading and commenting amongst themselves the facts the the police investors gave the press in this thread. Either way, you need and good psychotherapist and maybe some time in a mental health facility to work through your shit (being serious AF) for your own good before you unsuccessfully stalk someone from a random comment section and get yourself hurt and maybe you could try to become a functioning member of society in the real world. Normally I'd skip over troll comments but seeing how you made threats to descent members of this site and trolled on a dead baby's thread I just felt like letting you know how gross and sad what your doing really is. Hopefully you try finding a less pathetic hobby.

SINCERLY,
CHUPAMELA translation- suck me
 

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myra manes

Veteran Member
WOOWWW..... I think we have a Full Spectrum Multi Personality Troll on this comment thread cus I'm pretty sure Burton and Shit are the same person. I should be able to prove it seeing how a FSMPT can't resist creating another identity/account so they can talk more dumb shit .... (here goes)

@wendyshit
I give a literal negative-infinity fucks about what what's going on in the father's head weather it be past, present, future,or just in theory, what he did is a felony criminal homicide, if he kept his drunk ass home there wouldn't be a dead 2 y/o to write about in the first place.Sorry if you're a mother of a murder victim (serious) but, one would think you'd side with the 2y/o victim in the story more than the person who killed him, and it doesn't give you the right to act crazy to the people who are reading and commenting amongst themselves the facts the the police investors gave the press in this thread. Either way, you need and good psychotherapist and maybe some time in a mental health facility to work through your shit (being serious AF) for your own good before you unsuccessfully stalk someone from a random comment section and get yourself hurt and maybe you could try to become a functioning member of society in the real world. Normally I'd skip over troll comments but seeing how you made threats to descent members of this site and trolled on a dead baby's thread I just felt like letting you know how gross and sad what your doing really is. Hopefully you try finding a less pathetic hobby.

SINCERLY,
CHUPAMELA translation- suck me
Yeah @wendylburton - what she said!!!
 

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Sassedame

Trusted Member
I’m going to reserve judgement on the family only because they’ve suffered a horrible loss, in shock and may just be trying to not lose another member and will hopefully see reality after awhile. That being said, at my old age yes, I have driven after drinking, young and stupid and never got caught, but once I had children and worked in a courthouse, went to a dui panel with a friend, never, never, never again! It’s what I tell my children now, screw the dui and the cost, do you want to live with killing or hurting someone because you’re a selfish ass thinking you know so much? Nope.
 
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Sassedame

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I can’t even imagine living with the person whose actions resulted in the death of my child. Honestly, I’d probably need to be medicated into zombie for awhile and not be able to defend anyone . But I think about, say a year or two down the road, if he did get off... that would be impossible for me, the resentment and blame I’d feel.
 

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lithiumgirl

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OMG ... that shirt again.

But I think about, say a year or two down the road, if he did get off... that would be impossible for me, the resentment and blame I’d feel.
I agree ... once the enormity, and the permanence of it set in, you'd have a different perspective for sure.

Addicts don't survive with out help ... the mother of these children needs to re-examine her life, and every contribution she made to this situation. I know she suffered a horrible loss, but that's what she gets for tolerating the lifestyle that an alcoholic / or otherwise an addict lives. I still wonder if "crazy wife texts" had anything to do with this ? It says he was on his way home ... and we all know that wives send the "you better hurry the fuck up ... get home NOW" texts. For some reason i think more than alcohol played a part in this.
 

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Keepalowprofile

She believed she could so she did.
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@lithiumgirl
. I still wonder if "crazy wife texts" had anything to do with this ? It says he was on his way home ... and we all know that wives send the "you better hurry the fuck up ... get home NOW" texts. For some reason i think more than alcohol played a part in this.
She could send text after text and it would be up to him to look at them or ignore them while driving.
 

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lithiumgirl

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@lithiumgirl

She could send text after text and it would be up to him to look at them or ignore them while driving.

Ultimately I agree ... If I was being bombarded by texts while trying to drive I would have to shut my phone off ... Or pull over and deal with it temporarily ... It would sound like this. I'm driving, you know it ... how dare you ? I would be mad. Not texting and driving is right up there with drunk driving for me. NO ... NO ... Bad !!!

But it might be possible, it say's that he wasn't completely shit faced wasted ... and maybe there were other contributing factors. Like we know it wasn't a deer ... or this would be a story about deadly deer. And we know he wasn't falling down drunk. So I wonder what else was going on. Lot's of men go into "Oh shit ... I better try to calm her down so I'm not dead when I walk in the door" mode. I'm just saying its possible. Not blaming her, or letting him off the hook at all. Just saying ...Hmmm ?
 

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ScoutK

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[QUOTE="lithiumgirl, post: 1156063, member: 15954" I'm just saying its possible. Not blaming her, or letting him off the hook at all. Just saying ...Hmmm ?[/QUOTE]

Who cares? What freaking difference does it make? His kid is still dead, and he still killed him.
 

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