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4YO Shimon Smith Was Thrown Off Building By 20YO Brother

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A Brooklyn man has confessed to throwing his 4-year-old brother off a building, killing the boy, early Saturday morning, sources tell CBS2.


Police were called to a home on Nostrand Avenue between Avenues K and J around 3:30 a.m. in the East Midwood neighborhood.


Officers found Shimon Smith, 4, unconscious and unresponsive in the courtyard. He was pronounced dead at the scene.


“It’s very sad, sad, sad,” said the building’s superintendent, who told CBS2’s Marc Liverman he woke up to a lot of police activity.


The boy’s 20-year-old brother was taken into custody. His name has not yet been released.


So far, no charges have been filed.
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https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2018/09/29/4-year-old-boy-thrown-off-roof/
 
A schizophrenic Brooklyn man threw his four-year-old brother off their seven-story building’s roof to his death early Saturday — then walked up to a cop car and calmly confessed, police sources said.

“I just killed my brother — I took my brother up to the roof and I threw him off,” Shawn Smith, 20, allegedly told officers before leading them to where his brother’s broken body lay twisted in a trash-strewn Midwood courtyard, sources told The Post.

Shawn was charged Saturday afternoon with his brother’s murder, which happened at 2:45 a.m., minutes after he allegedly led the boy up to the roof.

He had no prior criminal record or history of violence, police sources noted.

But he recently told his family that voices in his head were ordering him to do “something bad—” though he didn’t, or couldn’t, warn anyone what that might be, police sources said.

And he’d been suicidal in the past — prompting several 911 calls in April, when he climbed up to the same roof at Nostrand Avenue, near Avenue K, and onlookers feared he might jump, the sources said.

Last admitted to Kings County Hospital in July for psychiatric treatment, Shawn had since stopped taking the medication prescribed to treat his schizophrenia, family members told cops.

“This was a chronic problem,” one police source said of Shawn’s mental illness.

Shawn and Shimron were the oldest and youngest children of Odessa Frith, who’d moved her family into the sixth-floor apartment in December from their native Guyana.

“Mom is screaming” neighbor and family friend Andrea Fergus answered when asked how Frith was holding up inside the 63rd Precinct hours after the tragedy.

“She’s got six kids,” Fergus said.

“She’s got one kid at the precinct and another one dead.”

Shimron was loved by neighbors as an active, playful little boy.

But Shawn was seen as quiet and troubled.

He would often be seen pacing the sidewalk outside their complex. He’d smoke cigarettes, and say little.

“Loco,” is how one cousin who declined to give her name put it. “Crazy in the head.”

“He doesn’t speak to nobody, he just walks up behind you,” said a building maintenance worker, who declined to give his name. “Walks up and down, smoking. He doesn’t talk much.”
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https://nypost.com/2018/09/29/4-year-old-dead-after-brother-shoves-him-from-building-cops/
 
I know there is no easy solution to mentally ill family members who are adults. Reminds me of the loon who chopped his little nephew to death with an axe. He had a well documented history of mental illness and family violence, he hated noise!
Yet everyone just believed it to be OK. They wanted to believe. Because "he wouldn't hurt a little child!" I just wouldn't have that confidence.
So I wonder about this situation.
 
The Brooklyn man who tossed his 4-year-old brother off the roof of their seven-story apartment building told cops he “wanted to see if God could protect the kid,” police sources said Sunday.

Shawn Smith, 20, plucked his brother Shimron from his bed at about 2:40 a.m. Saturday and carried him from their family’s sixth-floor apartment to the Midwood building’s roof, the sources said.

He then tossed the child over the edge and, two minutes later, went down to the courtyard to check whether the boy was alive, according to sources.

Minutes later, he allegedly told cops, who found a steak knife on him, “I killed my brother.”

The night before, Smith, whom police sources have described as mentally disturbed, sat in his family’s living room maniacally laughing at nothing in particular, the siblings’ mother said on Sunday.

“He was laughing and laughing. Usually, he was a quiet person,’’ said the mom, Odessa Frith.

He went out but returned a few minutes before rousting Shimron while everyone in the home was sleeping early Saturday morning, law-enforcement sources said.

Smith had recently moved from Guyana to live here with his mother, little brother and three other siblings because he “was too much to handle” for his father back in Guyana, sources said.

And in April, Smith threatened to kill himself on the same roof, according to his mother.

He was hospitalized for three weeks following a mental-health episode in July and had gone off his prescribed medication a few days before the killing, she said.

“I don’t even want to mention him now,” Frith said.

Frith, who moved here from Guyana in December, trembled and held her hands to her head as she eulogized her dead boy.

She is expected to claim the boy’s body on Monday and also meet with Smith, who was still hospitalized late Sunday.

The financially struggling family was apparently about to be evicted from the building, sources added.

Smith and Shimron were the oldest and youngest children in the family.

Frith’s next youngest son, who is 5, is having trouble comprehending what happened, the mom said.
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https://nypost.com/2018/09/30/man-who-threw-brother-from-roof-had-history-of-mental-illness-mom/
 
(quote)Smith had recently moved from Guyana to live here with his mother, little brother and three other siblings because he “was too much to handle” for his father back in Guyana, sources said.(/quote)

Yet mama was supposed to be able to handle him when she had 5 other smaller kids to wrangle?
 
October 11, 2018

The schizophrenic Brooklyn man charged with killing his 4-year-old brother by dropping him off a seven-story building told cops he selected the sibling because he was the “lightest” family member, according to newly unsealed court documents.

“I thought that God would make the world a better place,” Shawn Smith, 20, explained when asked why he killed sibling Shimron at their family’s Midwood apartment building last month.

Smith said he chose the tot because “he was the lightest, and he was in the easiest position.”

Smith was arraigned Thursday on charges of first-degree murder. Attorney Jonathan Strauss pleaded “not guilty” on his behalf.
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https://nypost.com/2018/10/11/schizo-man-i-threw-brother-off-roof-because-he-was-the-lightest/
 
God was trying to make the world a better place with your suicide attempt, you moron.
 
Muriel Schwenck said:
I know there is no easy solution to mentally ill family members who are adults.
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Huh? You just limit contact, especially in a situation like this where the nutter isnt taking their meds or properly seeking/utilizing treatment.

Satanica said:
I'm sure many people do not understand the level of danger inherent in housing a schizophrenic.
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Do people not watch horror movies???

I thought the stereotype and stigmas surrounding the mentally ill, specifically schizophrenia, were alive and strong still??? You gotta be another level of ignorant to not know of the possibile dangers with such a shitshow.
 
@Satanica
Odessa Frith moved to Queens after a devastating family tragedy last September that left her 4-year-old son, Shimron, dead in a Brooklyn courtyard — and her oldest son, Shawn, charged with throwing the little boy from a roof.

“My daughter take the phone,” the mother remembered through sobs, “ and when she take the phone, she said, ‘Mommy, Shawn throw Shimron off the building!’”

Frith, who lived with her six children on Nostrand Avenue in Brooklyn — after emigrating to New York from Guyana in 2017 — is sharing her intensely painful story for the first time with PIX11 News.

She said she wants the public to know about the help she didn’t get after her 20-year-old son, Shawn Smith, was diagnosed with schizophrenia in the spring of 2018 at Kings County Hospital.

Shawn had threatened to jump from the roof but was talked down by police, after a call was made to 911.

Frith said Shawn spent three weeks in the psychiatric ward at Kings County, where he was given medication to manage his mental illness.

She had noticed he started acting strangely around his 19th birthday, hearing voices, but the diagnosis came when he was closer to age 20.

Shawn’s older sister picked him up to go home from the hospital and said medical personnel promised to keep track of Shawn.

She quoted the staff who released Shawn as saying, “They’re going to send somebody weekly” to the family’s apartment to make sure Shawn was taking the medicine.

“He took it for the first week,” the sister said about Shawn, “and then he didn’t want it.”

Odessa Frith’s household was dealing with lots of stress in the weeks leading up to Saturday, Sept. 29, 2018.

Aside from Shawn’s illness, the electricity was turned off in most of the apartment, because another family member had stopped paying the bills.

Frith had gone to court on Friday, Sept. 28, to stave off an eviction proceeding.

At 3 a.m. on Saturday, Sept. 29, 2018, Frith said she woke up suddenly and realized little Shimron wasn’t sleeping in the bed near her.

She got up and went to the bathroom and noticed Shawn wasn’t in the apartment either.

Frith said she ran from the family’s 6th floor apartment down to the front of the building and saw police lights flashing.

“The officer said, ‘Mom, where are you going?’ I said I can’t find my baby and my big son.”

The mother learned the terrible news at the local precinct.

She waited eight months to go to Rikers to visit Shawn, who had flagged down police himself and admitted throwing his little brother from the roof.

When Shawn Smith saw his mother behind a plexiglass window at the jail, “He said, ‘Mommy, you came to find out what happened to Shimron?’ I said, Yes. He said, ‘Mom, I didn’t know it was Shimron. I thought it was a bag.’”

The oldest son sobbed and “he said, ‘Mommy, I’m so sorry. Mommy, I’m so sorry,’” Odessa Frith recalled.

“I said, Shawn, I forgive you, even though I know it hurt me. I forgive you. I want you to give your life to Christ. Ask God to forgive you.”

Odessa Frith seemed unaware that schizophrenia is one of the cruelest mental illnesses and one of the hardest to treat.

She remains anguished about things that happened before Shimron was killed and what happened afterwards.

“I know if that alarm was there, my baby would be alive today,” Frith said about the alarm connected to the roof door, “because my son would have turned back if that alarm went off.”

The mother said a police officer warned the building super to maintain the alarm, after Shawn Smith threatened to jump from the roof in the spring last year.

The realty company that manages the building said all of its roof alarms are in working order.

Odessa Frith claims, “The owner of the building didn’t even call to say ‘sorry.’ They didn’t even say you have my sympathy. Nothing.”
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Grieving mom shares story of son with schizophrenia who threw little brother from Brooklyn roof

QUEENS — Odessa Frith moved to Queens after a devastating family tragedy last September that left her 4-year-old son, Shimron, dead in a Brooklyn courtyard — and her oldest son, Shawn, charged with…
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She moved because she was being evicted for non payment of rent.

Her mentally ill son is her responsibility no one else.

When she learned of her son's illness she should have researched it and maybe she would have learned that

the no one can force her grown son to take medication if he does not want.

Did she apologize to subjecting her neighbors to her mentally ill son?
 
. She quoted the staff who released Shawn as saying, “They’re going to send somebody weekly” to the family’s apartment to make sure Shawn was taking the medicine.
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No, sorry, they don't do that.


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Odessa Frith’s household was dealing with lots of stress in the weeks leading up to Saturday, Sept. 29, 2018.
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Aside from Shawn’s illness, the electricity was turned off in most of the apartment, because another family member had stopped paying the bills.
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Lucky stars, part of your apartment was wired to someone else's bill.
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Yep. She wants her American paycheck.
 
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@Sugar Cookie - to me (mho), in her interview, she was mostly trying to blame the system (mental health) for her older sons actions, and was not nearly as focused on those actions. She, does not come across "feeling" the loss of the younger one, as much as the "somebody is to blame, because my older child did this" The baby's death will bring the check, but only because she is blaming everyone for not stopping her mentally ill child for killing his brother.
 
MildlyMedicated said:
@Sugar Cookie - to me (mho), in her interview, she was mostly trying to blame the system (mental health) for her older sons actions, and was not nearly as focused on those actions. She, does not come across "feeling" the loss of the younger one, as much as the "somebody is to blame, because my older child did this" The baby's death will bring the check, but only because she is blaming everyone for not stopping her mentally ill child for killing his brother.
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It sounds like she lawyered up. It sounds to me like she is issuing statements based on a lawyer's instruction.
 
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