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Victoria

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Obama and Kennedy are entirely different animals. Kennedy would not have approved of being liberal. Democrat doesn't automatically equate to liberal.
What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label, "Liberal"? If by "Liberal" they mean, as they want people to believe, someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer's dollar, then the record of this party and its members demonstrate that we are not that kind of "Liberal." But, if by a "Liberal," they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people - their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties - someone who believes that we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say that I'm a "Liberal."

But first, I would like to say what I understand the word, "Liberal," to mean and explain in the process why I consider myself to be a "Liberal," and what it means in the presidential election of 1960.

I believe in human dignity as the source of national purpose, in human liberty as the source of national action, and the human heart as the source of national compassion, and in the human mind as the source of our invention and our ideas. It is, I believe, this faith in our fellow citizens as individuals and as people that lies at the heart of the liberal faith, for liberalism is not so much a party creed or a set of fixed platform promises as it is an attitude of mind and heart, a faith in man's ability through the experiences of his reason and judgment to increase for himself and his fellow men the amount of Justice and freedom and brotherhood which all human life deserves.

I believe also in the United States of America, in the promise that it contains and has contained throughout our history of producing a society so abundant and creative and so free and responsible that it cannot only fulfill the aspirations of its citizens, but serve equally well as a beacon for all mankind. I do not believe in a super state. I see no magic to tax dollars which are sent to Washington and then returned. I abhor the waste and incompetence of large-scale Federal bureaucracies in this administration, as well as in others. I do not favor state compulsion when voluntary individual effort can do the job and do it well. But I believe in a government which acts, which exercises its full powers and its full responsibilities. Government is an art and a precious obligation; and when it has a job to do, I believe it should do it. And this requires not only great ends but that we propose concrete means of achieving them.

Our responsibility is not discharged by an announcement of virtuous ends. Our responsibility is to achieve these objectives with social invention, with political skill, and executive vigor. I believe for these reasons, that liberalism is our best and our only hope in the world today. [Applause.] For the liberal society is a free society, and it is at the same time and for that reason a strong society. Its strength is drawn from the will of free people committed to great ends and peacefully striving to meet them. Only liberalism, in short, can repair our national power, restore our national purpose, and liberate our national energies. And the only basic issue in the 1960 presidential campaign is whether our Government will fall in a conservative rut and die there, or whether we will move ahead in the liberal spirit of daring, of breaking new ground, of doing in our generation what Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman and Adlai Stevenson did in their time of influence and responsibility.

Our liberalism has its roots in our diverse origins. Most of us are descended from that segment of the American population which was once called an immigrant minority. Today, along with our children and grandchildren, we do not feel minor. We feel proud of our origins and we are not second to any group in our sense of national purpose. For many years New York represented the new frontier to all those who came from the ends of the earth to find new opportunity and new freedom, generations of men and women who fled from the despotism of the czars, the horrors of the Nazis, the tyranny of hunger, who came here to the new frontier in the State of New York. These men and women, a living cross section of American history, indeed, a cross section of the entire world's history of pain and hope, made of this city and only a new world of opportunity, but a new world of the spirit as well.
 

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Prettypink513

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Real questions: What makes a liberal liberal?
What do ya'll think make liberals of yesteryear different from liberals of today?
Do you consider previous presidents to be more conservative and today's less so?
Speak on it. Because for some crazy reason, I really want to understand why ya'll hate so much.
 

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Knox

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You claim to be smart, but you're equating a 1960's Dem to a 2010's Dem. As I said, NOT THE SAME ANIMAL! And no, I didn't have to do any research, I already KNOW these things. But seriously, can you be even more condescending in your wrongness? Maybe be an even bigger bitch? Or perhaps you'll concede that you were wrong in your initial position? HA! Who am I kidding??? You won't admit that you're wrong, EVER. It's not in you to be decent. Google that skank.
I probably could be. A bigger Bitch. But I have to restrain myself a bit now. And just a suggestion, maybe you should do some in depth research on John Kennedy. I did many papers on him in college. You don't have to. I'm not telling you what to do, I'm just suggesting that if you want to claim you KNOW things, then maybe you should, you know ACTUALLY know them. But if not, have a wonderful summer. (My papers took me almost a year, so if you decide to you will have a busy summer).
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What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label, "Liberal"? If by "Liberal" they mean, as they want people to believe, someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer's dollar, then the record of this party and its members demonstrate that we are not that kind of "Liberal." But, if by a "Liberal," they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people - their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties - someone who believes that we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say that I'm a "Liberal."

But first, I would like to say what I understand the word, "Liberal," to mean and explain in the process why I consider myself to be a "Liberal," and what it means in the presidential election of 1960.

I believe in human dignity as the source of national purpose, in human liberty as the source of national action, and the human heart as the source of national compassion, and in the human mind as the source of our invention and our ideas. It is, I believe, this faith in our fellow citizens as individuals and as people that lies at the heart of the liberal faith, for liberalism is not so much a party creed or a set of fixed platform promises as it is an attitude of mind and heart, a faith in man's ability through the experiences of his reason and judgment to increase for himself and his fellow men the amount of Justice and freedom and brotherhood which all human life deserves.

I believe also in the United States of America, in the promise that it contains and has contained throughout our history of producing a society so abundant and creative and so free and responsible that it cannot only fulfill the aspirations of its citizens, but serve equally well as a beacon for all mankind. I do not believe in a super state. I see no magic to tax dollars which are sent to Washington and then returned. I abhor the waste and incompetence of large-scale Federal bureaucracies in this administration, as well as in others. I do not favor state compulsion when voluntary individual effort can do the job and do it well. But I believe in a government which acts, which exercises its full powers and its full responsibilities. Government is an art and a precious obligation; and when it has a job to do, I believe it should do it. And this requires not only great ends but that we propose concrete means of achieving them.

Our responsibility is not discharged by an announcement of virtuous ends. Our responsibility is to achieve these objectives with social invention, with political skill, and executive vigor. I believe for these reasons, that liberalism is our best and our only hope in the world today. [Applause.] For the liberal society is a free society, and it is at the same time and for that reason a strong society. Its strength is drawn from the will of free people committed to great ends and peacefully striving to meet them. Only liberalism, in short, can repair our national power, restore our national purpose, and liberate our national energies. And the only basic issue in the 1960 presidential campaign is whether our Government will fall in a conservative rut and die there, or whether we will move ahead in the liberal spirit of daring, of breaking new ground, of doing in our generation what Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman and Adlai Stevenson did in their time of influence and responsibility.

Our liberalism has its roots in our diverse origins. Most of us are descended from that segment of the American population which was once called an immigrant minority. Today, along with our children and grandchildren, we do not feel minor. We feel proud of our origins and we are not second to any group in our sense of national purpose. For many years New York represented the new frontier to all those who came from the ends of the earth to find new opportunity and new freedom, generations of men and women who fled from the despotism of the czars, the horrors of the Nazis, the tyranny of hunger, who came here to the new frontier in the State of New York. These men and women, a living cross section of American history, indeed, a cross section of the entire world's history of pain and hope, made of this city and only a new world of opportunity, but a new world of the spirit as well.
Yep, @BuffettGirl left soooooo much out yet claim it was the ENTIRE speech. Sigh.
 

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Prettypink513

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It's demented creepy is what it is!

John McCain was indeed a fucking hero, a man of honor in every sense.

President Bone Spur should take care to keep the name of John McCain out of his ugly mouth.

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I told my mom this morning like "If Trump actually went to Vietnam, you know what his nickname would be?"

wait fooor it....


...Agent Orange :hilarious:
 

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Knox

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Real questions: What makes a liberal liberal?
What do ya'll think make liberals of yesteryear different from liberals of today?
Do you consider previous presidents to be more conservative and today's less so?
Speak on it. Because for some crazy reason, I really want to understand why ya'll hate so much.
I have no idea what they consider me to be. Well other than BG thinks I'm a bitch and that's fair. MY idea of Liberal? And this not really policy related but I believe in civil rights, I believe in gay rights, And I don't even think they should be called "Rights" it just should BE. Period. Let anyone over the age of consent live their lives how they want. To love who they want. To have all the exact same as the next person. opportunities I believe abortion should be safe and legal and not restricted (we see every day right here what happens when a child is forced upon someone who doesn't want it)

I believe anyone who wants to come here for a better and safer life should be able to. I don't give a shit if your skin is pale like mine or brown or yellow or red or black. We are all EXACTLY the same.

I don't believe for one nano second this stupid piece of dirt we were born on is any better than any other piece of dirt. We are citizens of earth, not the patch we were born on. I cannot abide the fact that that are starving homeless children or elderly or veterans in this country or anywhere when some people have so much they spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on a fucking purse!! It's obscene and disgusting!! So call me a Socialist because I am one.

And I am angry as fuck with the other side as they are perfectly fine with babies and children being separated from their parents, being put in cages and some may never be reunited and only because their parents were fleeing from horrors we can only imagine to get their children to what they thought was safety. As ALL of us would do if it were our children. They can argue money, and whatever they want, but I will never forgive them for electing a rapist that is still keeping this up even after the courts ordered him to stop and reunite what families he could. They don't care because these people are brown and were born on a different patch of earth.

There are about a million other things but I am feeling very stabby right now. So I'm taking a break.
 

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BuffettGirl

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First off, it's not hate. It's confusion that one would choose fiscal recklessness on purpose. Look at the extremes in the party to define it. Suddenly there are 3,486 sexes, gender fluidity, both despite biology. The whole "climate change" that says the world is ending in 12 years (No, it isn't, every single prediction has been wrong). The left says we're "science deniers" out of one side of their mouths while LITERALLY denying science out of the other side of their mouth and trying to tell me that it's Conservatives that are the problem? It's the constant disrespect of our sovereignty, blaming ICE for doing their job and letting illegal aliens free in sanctuary cities so they can commit more crimes only to be released, over and over. Liberals of "yesteryear" didn't just cave to the extreme demands of the fringe element the way they do now. Society was stricter, there was more respect for ALL rather than the vocal few. Neither Conservative nor Liberal were dirty words, now they're hurled as insults, it's ridiculous. As I have said for years, you don't have to respect the office holder to respect the office. The current POTUS never even got a chance. It was rabid hate from day one. No one did that to any other President, ever. The Left constantly tells us we are wrong. We are shouted down, overtalked and not even given common respect. No one takes the time to consider what we say, it's just "You're wrong" and constant attacks. Guess what? I am not an evil, vile, despicable person because I vote fiscally and for the military and I don't give a shit who anyone sleeps with. The left calls me a racist every single day. But I'm not the one bringing up race, because I don't care what race you are. Just as I don't care what religious beliefs you hold. The only ones mentioning it are the "Liberals" It's befuddling. Take AOC, she wants all of this "Green New Deal" shit implemented with not one concern for how to PAY for it. People fall all over themselves to worship at her false alter and it's disgusting. That's what I mean by fiscal recklessness. We can't just print money, look at Zimbabwe if you want to know why. I hope this helps.
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Yep, @BuffettGirl left soooooo much out yet claim it was the ENTIRE speech. Sigh.
WTF are you talking about? Sigh

And take your suggestions and well, you know the rest. You aren't the only one that studied John F. Kennedy. There you go with the super condescension again, do you even know you're doing it? That's a super nasty habit. It wouldn't take me half as long as it took you, I read at over 5 times the average readers speed. Another thing you didn't know Ms Know-It-All? Hmmm... Makes one wonder what else you might not have a clue about that you think you do.
 
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Prettypink513

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It helps SOME but I have a few additional questions/comments.

The current POTUS never even got a chance. It was rabid hate from day one. No one did that to any other President, ever.
You don't think Obama faced "rabid hate"? From what I've seen, they STILL hate him and he's not even president anymore.

No one takes the time to consider what we say, it's just "You're wrong" and constant attacks
I think both sides are doing that. Look at this thread.

Take AOC, she wants all of this "Green New Deal" shit implemented with not one concern for how to PAY for it.
So building a wall with no idea how to pay for it is ok? A wall that wont do a thing about the tunnels and other ways illegals and drugs get here? I'm not saying the green new deal is what we need, but you can't bash one person for wanting to spend money frivolously and praise another for the same thing. That's hypocritical and unfair.
 

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BuffettGirl

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It helps SOME but I have a few additional questions/comments.


You don't think Obama faced "rabid hate"? From what I've seen, they STILL hate him and he's not even president anymore.


I think both sides are doing that. Look at this thread.



So building a wall with no idea how to pay for it is ok? A wall that wont do a thing about the tunnels and other ways illegals and drugs get here? I'm not saying the green new deal is what we need, but you can't bash one person for wanting to spend money frivolously and praise another for the same thing. That's hypocritical and unfair.
No matter how much people want to rewrite recent history, no, I don't think he faced NEAR the level of constant attack that DJT does. For starters, he had the MSM on his side for the entire ride. As Ted Koppel recently said, he thinks that the NYT and the WaPo both decided for America that DJT was bad for America and have pushed that agenda. What happened to objectivity? What happened to reporting FACTS and not their opinion or interpretation? And this is Ted Koppel, not exactly a Conservative. EVER. The Left is still so pissed off that HRC didn't win that it's scary.

Maybe to a degree both sides are doing that, but not with the level of viciousness that is aimed at the Right. You can see it in this thread. I don't say anything anymore because it always ends in an attack. People legit say they "tried to correct my outlook". WTF is that? Ain't a goddamn one of you that has the right to do that! My POV isn't to be respected here, it's to be ridiculed and shouted down with absolutely no consideration. You can see for yourself. I say something and it's 4 or more of you (Lefties) berating me, telling me I'm wrong, pig-piling on me with hate and rage. Not a one of them stops to even ponder my position for a second. It's just attack. It's to the point now where I don't say anything and nasty comments are STILL being made about me. I get brought up when it has no bearing on the situation. It's beyond sense.

As for the wall, $25B vs. $93T? Not even in the same universe. Even a higher estimate, like $70B doesn't compare. And DJT never proposed just printing money. AOC did.
 

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Victoria

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JFK who was one of God's finest liberal children created the Peace Corps.


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Sweet Jesus Buffettgirl, you were doing your fair share of pouncing on comments that opposed your own with fangs bared and dripping juices.
 
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Knox

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First off, it's not hate. It's confusion that one would choose fiscal recklessness on purpose. Look at the extremes in the party to define it. Suddenly there are 3,486 sexes, gender fluidity, both despite biology. The whole "climate change" that says the world is ending in 12 years (No, it isn't, every single prediction has been wrong). The left says we're "science deniers" out of one side of their mouths while LITERALLY denying science out of the other side of their mouth and trying to tell me that it's Conservatives that are the problem? It's the constant disrespect of our sovereignty, blaming ICE for doing their job and letting illegal aliens free in sanctuary cities so they can commit more crimes only to be released, over and over. Liberals of "yesteryear" didn't just cave to the extreme demands of the fringe element the way they do now. Society was stricter, there was more respect for ALL rather than the vocal few. Neither Conservative nor Liberal were dirty words, now they're hurled as insults, it's ridiculous. As I have said for years, you don't have to respect the office holder to respect the office. The current POTUS never even got a chance. It was rabid hate from day one. No one did that to any other President, ever. The Left constantly tells us we are wrong. We are shouted down, overtalked and not even given common respect. No one takes the time to consider what we say, it's just "You're wrong" and constant attacks. Guess what? I am not an evil, vile, despicable person because I vote fiscally and for the military and I don't give a shit who anyone sleeps with. The left calls me a racist every single day. But I'm not the one bringing up race, because I don't care what race you are. Just as I don't care what religious beliefs you hold. The only ones mentioning it are the "Liberals" It's befuddling. Take AOC, she wants all of this "Green New Deal" shit implemented with not one concern for how to PAY for it. People fall all over themselves to worship at her false alter and it's disgusting. That's what I mean by fiscal recklessness. We can't just print money, look at Zimbabwe if you want to know why. I hope this helps.
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WTF are you talking about? Sigh

And take your suggestions and well, you know the rest. You aren't the only one that studied John F. Kennedy. There you go with the super condescension again, do you even know you're doing it? That's a super nasty habit. It wouldn't take me half as long as it took you, I read at over 5 times the average readers speed. Another thing you didn't know Ms Know-It-All? Hmmm... Makes one wonder what else you might not have a clue about that you think you do.
No one cares how fast you read. And reading fast had nothing to do with it. I did thesis level papers on him and fast reading would've fucked that up.
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No matter how much people want to rewrite recent history, no, I don't think he faced NEAR the level of constant attack that DJT does. For starters, he had the MSM on his side for the entire ride. As Ted Koppel recently said, he thinks that the NYT and the WaPo both decided for America that DJT was bad for America and have pushed that agenda. What happened to objectivity? What happened to reporting FACTS and not their opinion or interpretation? And this is Ted Koppel, not exactly a Conservative. EVER. The Left is still so pissed off that HRC didn't win that it's scary.

Maybe to a degree both sides are doing that, but not with the level of viciousness that is aimed at the Right. You can see it in this thread. I don't say anything anymore because it always ends in an attack. People legit say they "tried to correct my outlook". WTF is that? Ain't a goddamn one of you that has the right to do that! My POV isn't to be respected here, it's to be ridiculed and shouted down with absolutely no consideration. You can see for yourself. I say something and it's 4 or more of you (Lefties) berating me, telling me I'm wrong, pig-piling on me with hate and rage. Not a one of them stops to even ponder my position for a second. It's just attack. It's to the point now where I don't say anything and nasty comments are STILL being made about me. I get brought up when it has no bearing on the situation. It's beyond sense.

As for the wall, $25B vs. $93T? Not even in the same universe. Even a higher estimate, like $70B doesn't compare. And DJT never proposed just printing money. AOC did.
And BG just proved my entire post. "Let ICE do their job" of putting babies and children in cages simply because their parents are trying to keep them alive. She worries about fucking filthy money over the lives of other human beings. Again, obscene and disgusting. And no, I'm not going to respect your point of view because your point of view is obscene and disgusting. I could care less about the "sovereignty" of this piece of dirt. Please. What kind of argument is that? To put it over human lives? Over babies lives? And for fucks sake put on your big girl panties, grow a thicker skin or get out of three things. Three things is a place to say what we want (within reason of course) so quit your whining of "Oh she called me hag" I call you a lot worse, trust me.

And how the fuck are we denying science???????? Give me facts and links. Because that's bat shit crazy talk.
 
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BuffettGirl

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No one cares how fast you read. And reading fast had nothing to do with it. I did thesis level papers on him and fast reading would've fucked that up.
Not when you have a 97% short term comprehension rate and a 98% long term comprehension rate. More stuff you don't have a clue about. Cute. Psst: no one cares about your "thesis level papers". :finger:
 

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Knox

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Not when you have a 97% short term comprehension rate and a 98% long term comprehension rate. More stuff you don't have a clue about. Cute. Psst: no one cares about your "thesis level papers". :finger:
So do I. So what? And I read super fast too, but I don't brag about it to make others feel stupid.
 

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BuffettGirl

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So do I. So what? And I read super fast too, but I don't brag about it to make others feel stupid.
That wasn't bragging. I was putting your condescending ass in its place. You ASSUMED it would take me all summer. It wouldn't take me a month. If you feel bad over that it's not my problem. It's a poor reading comprehension problem. Nice to know you have feelings besides false superiority and turbo bitchiness.
 

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Knox

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That wasn't bragging. I was putting your condescending ass in its place. You ASSUMED it would take me all summer. It wouldn't take me a month. If you feel bad over that it's not my problem. It's a poor reading comprehension problem. Nice to know you have feelings besides false superiority and turbo bitchiness.
Oooohhhh, such a burn!!! I almost thought I felt something. :joyful::joyful::joyful: Now why you don't answer the second part of my post. And facts and links. Edited to add, I didn't think you would. Those pesky facts never make your side look good.
 
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BuffettGirl

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Oooohhhh, such a burn!!! I almost thought I felt something. :joyful::joyful::joyful: Now why you don't answer the second part of my post. And facts and links.
Nice attempt at a recovery. Kind of. I'll type slowly so you can understand it. When you claim that there are 4,368 sexes you are DENYING SCIENCE. Science says there are two sexes, not 4,000+. Google is your best friend right? If you need a link look it up yourself, I'm not here to do your bitch work.
 

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Knox

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Nice attempt at a recovery. Kind of. I'll type slowly so you can understand it. When you claim that there are 4,368 sexes you are DENYING SCIENCE. Science says there are two sexes, not 4,000+. Google is your best friend right? If you need a link look it up yourself, I'm not here to do your bitch work.
Omg, so a couple of FRINGE people think that. Give me fucking links on where the entire Left has embraced that. And I do not believe they are talking about sexes as in genders. They are talking about sexual preferences. (goes to show you don't comprehend as much as you think you do, but good try on a second burn) And if you really thought it was so you'd be posting information all over this site to prove me wrong. And you know it.

As for sexual preferences? There are a vast many. Do I think it ranges in the thousands, most likely not. But who knows for sure?
 

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Prettypink513

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The Left is still so pissed off that HRC didn't win that it's scary.
If the left is pissed about Hilary not winning (which at this point, I don't care. I don't know anyone that does. It's over with) The right is obsessed with her. I get tired of hearing about her tbh. Ok she lost, life goes on. Forget the loss and those emails. Who cares?

it's 4 or more of you (Lefties) berating me, telling me I'm wrong, pig-piling on me with hate and rage.
Define "you" I don't think I do that. Do I agree with you all the time, nope, but I don't think I berate you.

As for the wall, $25B vs. $93T? Not even in the same universe. Even a higher estimate, like $70B doesn't compare. And DJT never proposed just printing money. AOC did.
$25 billion is nothing to sneeze at either. Just because one costs more than the other doesn't mean it's not frivolous.
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When you claim that there are 4,368 sexes you are DENYING SCIENCE
Who said that? I never heard of that before. I've just heard of asexual, hermaphrodite, boy, girl, girl that wants to be boy, boy that wants to be girl, and boy that wants to be a tiger.
 
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If the left is pissed about Hilary not winning (which at this point, I don't care. I don't know anyone that does. It's over with) The right is obsessed with her. I get tired of hearing about her tbh. Ok she lost, life goes on. Forget the loss and those emails. Who
The left is pissed the party burned Bernie
They’re happy hildabeast got fucked, just not happy Trump won :)
 

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BuffettGirl

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If the left is pissed about Hilary not winning (which at this point, I don't care. I don't know anyone that does. It's over with) The right is obsessed with her. I get tired of hearing about her tbh. Ok she lost, life goes on. Forget the loss and those emails. Who cares?


Define "you" I don't think I do that. Do I agree with you all the time, nope, but I don't think I berate you.


$25 billion is nothing to sneeze at either. Just because one costs more than the other doesn't mean it's not frivolous.
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Who said that? I never heard of that before. I've just heard of asexual, hermaphrodite, boy, girl, girl that wants to be boy, boy that wants to be girl, and boy that wants to be a tiger.
For one, I care. There was classified information in those email chains. That's not legal. I would care no matter who was SOS at the time. A private server is a no-no for a reason. I think the Right is obsessed with her behavior that hasn't been treated in a fair and reasonable manner. Not with her personally. What she did and got away with is criminal.

I didn't mean that YOU were doing it, that was a plural you encompassing the group. Sorry that it seemed like I was pointing at you specifically.

I wasn't saying that cost determines frivolity. Just pointing out the the two costs aren't in the same orbit is all.

According to multiple sources that I just looked at, I find anywhere from 13 to 117 in just the top three or four search results. Despite what some may believe, I don't make this stuff up...

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Prettypink513

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For one, I care. There was classified information in those email chains. That's not legal. I would care no matter who was SOS at the time. A private server is a no-no for a reason. I think the Right is obsessed with her behavior that hasn't been treated in a fair and reasonable manner. Not with her personally. What she did and got away with is criminal.
Ok. so White House staffers (more specifically Jared and Ivanka) has done the same thing. Why aren't Republicans screaming to lock them up? I wish you guys would have the same energy about Jared and Ivanka's emails that you have about Hillary's. Kerry did the same thing when he was the SOS. Where's the "lock him up" chants?

The FBI investigated and investigated again. The first time they decided the investigation would be closed with no charges. The second time Comey stated that, after working "around the clock" to review all of the newly discovered emails, the FBI had not changed the conclusion it reached previously. An unnamed government official added that the newly discovered emails turned out to be either personal or duplicates of emails previously reviewed, and that Comey's letter represents a conclusion of the investigation.

So she was investigated and investigated again with no charges and that's STILL not good enough. Now if the FBI's investigation of collusion ended with no charges against Trump, you all would be dancing in the streets. You would be glad the investigation is over. Not one republican would be shouting "lock him up". They would be like "he's been vindicated and it's over." Not with Hillary tho. Ya'll want her to go to jail SO BADLY that you'll overlook other people's crimes in search of "justice" for Hillary. The hypocrisy is STRONG

Have the same energy about Deutch Bank. I thought bank fraud was a crime. Have the same energy about Trump asking the Russians to hack her emails. I thought hacking was a crime. But right wingers won't have the same energy because many of them are hypocrites
 

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The left is pissed the party burned Bernie
They’re happy hildabeast got fucked, just not happy Trump won :)
No that's actually you. The Left doesn't even think about Secretary Clinton. We don't think about Bernie either. I was a Bernie girl and I'm not 'pissed'. I was disappointed when he lost, but that's a natural reaction, no? I'm also not happy that Ms Clinton lost either. So apparently you have no idea what the Left thinks about.
 

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According to multiple sources that I just looked at, I find anywhere from 13 to 117 in just the top three or four search results. Despite what some may believe, I don't make this stuff up...

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About that chart. They are just saying anything that could be grouped together (like agender version 1 and 2...like what's the difference?). I don't think that is a liberal or a conservative issue to be honest. And what's the difference between a demigirl and a bigender? Yikes! Making my head hurt. anywho, I know this has been in the news and all, but I truly don't believe the majority of ANYBODY are expressing these views. Maybe one day it'll catch more steam, but right now, most of us just consider the basic few.
 

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For one, I care. There was classified information in those email chains. That's not legal. I would care no matter who was SOS at the time. A private server is a no-no for a reason. I think the Right is obsessed with her behavior that hasn't been treated in a fair and reasonable manner. Not with her personally. What she did and got away with is criminal.

I didn't mean that YOU were doing it, that was a plural you encompassing the group. Sorry that it seemed like I was pointing at you specifically.

I wasn't saying that cost determines frivolity. Just pointing out the the two costs aren't in the same orbit is all.

According to multiple sources that I just looked at, I find anywhere from 13 to 117 in just the top three or four search results. Despite what some may believe, I don't make this stuff up...

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Fuck you and her emails. tRump and his entire family and regime are using private unsecured email addresses and servers. Not to mention unsecured Iphones. That whole argument makes you and yours look even stupider, so I totes wouldn't bring that up if I were you.

As for those genders, okay, I get it. Tell me you haven't called some woman "butch" and I'll tell you you're a liar. Some are Asexual. My very best friend in the world is. She's just not interested in it. It doesn't mean she's not female. That's exactly what I meant by sexual preferences. Damn, you really need to expand your horizons. This doesn't mean actual genders. It means how they FEEL. And Gender Fluid just means they may have born male or female but they FEEL like both. And why should that bother you? It's not your life they're messing with. That's another huge difference between us. I let people be who they are and you want them to fit into narrow rigid boxes. Phhhffftttt.
 

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BuffettGirl

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Ok. so White House staffers (more specifically Jared and Ivanka) has done the same thing. Why aren't Republicans screaming to lock them up? I wish you guys would have the same energy about Jared and Ivanka's emails that you have about Hillary's. Kerry did the same thing when he was the SOS. Where's the "lock him up" chants?

The FBI investigated and investigated again. The first time they decided the investigation would be closed with no charges. The second time Comey stated that, after working "around the clock" to review all of the newly discovered emails, the FBI had not changed the conclusion it reached previously. An unnamed government official added that the newly discovered emails turned out to be either personal or duplicates of emails previously reviewed, and that Comey's letter represents a conclusion of the investigation.

So she was investigated and investigated again with no charges and that's STILL not good enough. Now if the FBI's investigation of collusion ended with no charges against Trump, you all would be dancing in the streets. You would be glad the investigation is over. Not one republican would be shouting "lock him up". They would be like "he's been vindicated and it's over." Not with Hillary tho. Ya'll want her to go to jail SO BADLY that you'll overlook other people's crimes in search of "justice" for Hillary. The hypocrisy is STRONG

Have the same energy about Deutch Bank. I thought bank fraud was a crime. Have the same energy about Trump asking the Russians to hack her emails. I thought hacking was a crime. But right wingers won't have the same energy because many of them are hypocrites
So too were Ivanka and Jared looked at. Kerry's email situation wasn't as detrimental to the nation. Her crimes outstipped any others BY FAR. It's not good enough because the same standards were not applied. She got a pass. They open the Russia investigation on the HOPE that they would find something, not on anything tangible. That's the whole problem. There are not two fair-minded, honest investigations going. There was the one to protect HRC and the one to attempt to destroy DJT. That is the bitch with this whole thing. Two different approaches and two different investigations. It was spelled out in the Strzok/Page texts, they didn't want to go to hard on HRC because they presumed she would be their boss. Talk about hypocrisy, why aren't you all going after that? As they said in their texts there is no THERE there. It's a giant, manufactured nothing burger. Personally, I want her to go to prison badly. But I have since the early 90's before WJC declared himself. It's simple, she breaks the law and has layers and layers of protection. How's that possible?

You want the Right to have the same energy regarding Trump, yet the Left doesn't come close to having the same energy about HRC that it has in taking DJT down. The hypocrisy flows both ways. It's not just the Left is being persecuted and the Right is totally absolved. The Left fixates on it's thing and the Right fixates on it's thing. This isn't new. It's just the ramped up vitriol that is so out of the ordinary. And I don't care who you are, making up a phony dossier and then presenting it to the FISA Court as proof is criminal. According to the author of the dossier it CAN'T be verified. But they used it in the FISA Court to spy on an American citizen for months. Do you approve of that kind of tactic? I sure as hell don't!
 

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So too were Ivanka and Jared looked at. Kerry's email situation wasn't as detrimental to the nation. Her crimes outstipped any others BY FAR. It's not good enough because the same standards were not applied. She got a pass. They open the Russia investigation on the HOPE that they would find something, not on anything tangible. That's the whole problem. There are not two fair-minded, honest investigations going. There was the one to protect HRC and the one to attempt to destroy DJT. That is the bitch with this whole thing. Two different approaches and two different investigations. It was spelled out in the Strzok/Page texts, they didn't want to go to hard on HRC because they presumed she would be their boss. Talk about hypocrisy, why aren't you all going after that? As they said in their texts there is no THERE there. It's a giant, manufactured nothing burger. Personally, I want her to go to prison badly. But I have since the early 90's before WJC declared himself. It's simple, she breaks the law and has layers and layers of protection. How's that possible?

You want the Right to have the same energy regarding Trump, yet the Left doesn't come close to having the same energy about HRC that it has in taking DJT down. The hypocrisy flows both ways. It's not just the Left is being persecuted and the Right is totally absolved. The Left fixates on it's thing and the Right fixates on it's thing. This isn't new. It's just the ramped up vitriol that is so out of the ordinary. And I don't care who you are, making up a phony dossier and then presenting it to the FISA Court as proof is criminal. According to the author of the dossier it CAN'T be verified. But they used it in the FISA Court to spy on an American citizen for months. Do you approve of that kind of tactic? I sure as hell don't!
Are you trying to be serious here? For real serious? Ms. Clinton has been investigated for YEARS. YEARS on this very issue and they've found nothing. Don't try and tell me the very Republican Congress went easy on her. Because I'll tell you you're either stupid or determined to bury your head in the sand. They did nothing but drag her through the shit and still found EXACTLY NOTHING. But after all of the Rights bitching and screaming about this, they are deafeningly SILENT that the tRumps and they're regime were doing and are STILL doing the fucking exact same thing.

This is just ANOTHER reason I hate people like her. They are hypocrites and I hate nothing more than I hate a hypocrite.
 

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Fuck you and her emails. tRump and his entire family and regime are using private unsecured email addresses and servers. Not to mention unsecured Iphones. That whole argument makes you and yours look even stupider, so I totes wouldn't bring that up if I were you.

As for those genders, okay, I get it. Tell me you haven't called some woman "butch" and I'll tell you you're a liar. Some are Asexual. My very best friend in the world is. She's just not interested in it. It doesn't mean she's not female. That's exactly what I meant by sexual preferences. Damn, you really need to expand your horizons. This doesn't mean actual genders. It means how they FEEL. And Gender Fluid just means they may have born male or female but they FEEL like both. And why should that bother you? It's not your life they're messing with. That's another huge difference between us. I let people be who they are and you want them to fit into narrow rigid boxes. Phhhffftttt.
I can screech "FUCK YOU" too. Where did that get you? You don't even have the basic decency to spell YOUR President's name correctly. That makes you nothing more than a 26 year old BABY. You totes wouldn't bring it up? Are you really 8? Are you just lying about being 26? You don't act mature at all. Ever. You call people names and expect honest discourse? Totes stupid! :rolleyes:

And now they don't mean "actual" genders, they're just using that word? I am well versed on human sexuality. Well versed enough to use the proper terminology. Not some made up bullshit to be seen as being PC. Big deal about your bff, my brother is asexual. Do I win a prize? No? You don't either. And there you go with the condescension again. I don't need to expand a damn thing. I fully comprehend what the words mean, the problem is they aren't using them the right way.

And no, you don't let people be who they are. You try to fit them into your own definitions. You attempt to put them into your personally defined boxes. And if they dare to displease you, you unleash a barrage of hate and nastiness on them. Nice try on the "I'm an angel" act. It failed.
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Are you trying to be serious here? For real serious? Ms. Clinton has been investigated for YEARS. YEARS on this very issue and they've found nothing. Don't try and tell me the very Republican Congress went easy on her. Because I'll tell you you're either stupid or determined to bury your head in the sand. They did nothing but drag her through the shit and still found EXACTLY NOTHING. But after all of the Rights bitching and screaming about this, they are deafeningly SILENT that the tRumps and they're regime were doing and are STILL doing the fucking exact same thing.

This is just ANOTHER reason I hate people like her. They are hypocrites and I hate nothing more than I hate a hypocrite.
Stop lying. It serves no one. Except maybe your own putrid ego...
 

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I can screech "FUCK YOU" too. Where did that get you? You don't even have the basic decency to spell YOUR President's name correctly. That makes you nothing more than a 26 year old BABY. You totes wouldn't bring it up? Are you really 8? Are you just lying about being 26? You don't act mature at all. Ever. You call people names and expect honest discourse? Totes stupid! :rolleyes:

And now they don't mean "actual" genders, they're just using that word? I am well versed on human sexuality. Well versed enough to use the proper terminology. Not some made up bullshit to be seen as being PC. Big deal about your bff, my brother is asexual. Do I win a prize? No? You don't either. And there you go with the condescension again. I don't need to expand a damn thing. I fully comprehend what the words mean, the problem is they aren't using them the right way.

And no, you don't let people be who they are. You try to fit them into your own definitions. You attempt to put them into your personally defined boxes. And if they dare to displease you, you unleash a barrage of hate and nastiness on them. Nice try on the "I'm an angel" act. It failed.
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Stop lying. It serves no one. Except maybe your own putrid ego...
Fuck is my favorite word. It means so many different things. So I'm going to very liberally use it. And you're trying to bait me by calling me young. Well, I guess it's better than being old. And I've already said a million times I'm not an angel.

And what exactly pray tell, did I lie about? Nothing.
 

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And what exactly pray tell, did I lie about? Nothing.
Did you type? Then you lied. And I realize that you think you are the most special little snowflake out there and all, but no Puddin', I wasn't trying to bait you. You're far to easy to bait without my having to try. But CLEARLY you are trying to bait me by calling me old. I don't care. At least I'm not young and dumb, like you. Because you're stupid precious like that. Bless your heart...
 

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Did you type? Then you lied. And I realize that you think you are the most special little snowflake out there and all, but no Puddin', I wasn't trying to bait you. You're far to easy to bait without my having to try. But CLEARLY you are trying to bait me by calling me old. I don't care. At least I'm not young and dumb, like you. Because you're stupid precious like that. Bless your heart...
Back on subject. You can call me a name, but only in the context of an actual post. You're not going to post JUST to call names.
 

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