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Sentenced: 20MO Girl Died After Being Left Alone In Scorching Hot Bedroom For 14 Hours

@Sotiredofthisshit
I have not found any references to the charges be dropped.

It does not matter how long that baby was left in the hot room you are a horrible mother and human being.

I do not doubt that you miss your daughter and that you are sorry that she died because of your piss poor parenting.

Attacking us will not change the fact that you are the reason that your daughter is no longer alive.
 
I doubt she'll be responding further after that! Well done!

LFODBiker said:
Based on the information you provided here, the DA is still planning to go ahead with the charges, so that means technically you're still under arrest and that, as Miranda says - Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.

DA's are also capable of using Google, you know that right? I wonder if your lawyer knows you're posting this shit.

Have fun in court.

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Sotiredofthisshit said:
And I’ll continue to tell the people the truth whether they believe it or not because my daughter deserves to rest without y’all using her death as debate
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Also kindly don't call my daughter Baby Girl whether its out of respect or not because you dont have the respect to learn the truth before running your mouth about it or how to read the facts.
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For dumbasses who cant read i clearly state that it wasnt 14 hours
So quit saying 14 Hours
Unless you just cant fucking read
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14 hours. Two under two left for 14 hours and you dare come on here and give US shit? Baby girl deserved way better than what she got.
 
Ducky said:
Also I have 2 kids. One has even reached the ripe old age of 8!!
Isn’t that wild that they actually can live for that long?

I also went through tons of links... and they all pretty much say the same thing.

We’ve all been through something on this site. You don’t know any of us so you need to stop running your damn mouth.
We just talk about how dumb people are really... I actually got on this site when I was a new young mom because I didn’t have a mom to teach me what the dangers were. I found out very fast a whole shit load of things that can very easily kill a baby.
You can still learn...

Edit- She was also not 1 going on 9. She was 1 going on 1 weirdo.
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I said she was so smart that you wouldnt think she was that young? “Weirdo” also i dont know how mocking another young mother about a situation you know nothing about is supposed to help?
 
TechGuyDallas said:
@Sotiredofthisshit humans have a process on where opinions are developed on information obtained on the subject through a variety of sources. The more personal the subject is, or the more researched the subject is, the more sources one has to glean from.

Humans also tend to listen to rational first hand sources of information more readily than summary or 2nd hand sources of information. That being said, we here at DD will go off the news more readily, as we still haven't heard a rational recollection of events from you.

I take the time now to offer that to you. Without referring to other comments in this forum, without attacking other members, without trying to cast blame, can you tell us what you believe the story is?

-Can you tell us the relations to the family? Are you Mary Cole, or someone else?
-What kind of AC unit was put in? Was it the standard big box one that sticks halfway in the room, halfway out the room through the window? was it one where it sat on wheels on the floor, with a hose that was supposed to go through the window?
-Can you tell us who installed the AC unit?
-Can you both tell us, and give as many news stories as possible that dispute the 14 hours quoted by most of the news stories? (I searched for stories, and either the time wasn't quoted, or it was quoted as 14 hours.)
-This story: https://www.news10.com/news/national/parents-charged-with-death-of-toddler-girl-who-overheated/ seems to indicate that Austin Heaton was in charge of installing the AC...can you dispute that? Was he the one that put it in, or did he just tell other family members how to put it in?
-This story: https://wnep.com/2019/02/21/parents-charged-in-heat-related-death/ seems to indicate that there was a malfunction in the AC, causing it to pump hot air rather than cool air...it also states that Nicole had a temp of 106 at time of death...
-This story: https://fox56.com/news/local/parents-charged-for-death-of-1-year-old-in-scranton indicates it was a floor unit, pumping 120 degree air into the room. This would have been measured by gauging the temperature at the unit itself, not around the room. Can you confirm it was a floor unit?

Your answers do matter. The law is about the truth, but emotions will always cloud our interpretation of the truth, both on how we relate the truth to others, and how the truth is processed by peers. We will tear apart your statement, as humans tend to do to accept a new opinion. We ask that you understand that we're trying to ensure justice be done for the lives lost or destroyed for any of the forum posts here. There are numerous other forum posts where someone related to the case has come in to add their opinion or story. All have been questioned, some have been somewhat accepted.

You've thrown yourself into our spotlight @Sotiredofthisshit...What say you?
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Just goes to show how different sites say different shit.
It was clearly stated in interviews that the Grand father installed it. Austin doesnt even know what store it was bought at.
Second if you read where i addressed the AC if it was malfunctioning then the authorities wouldnt have been able to “test” the temperature. Without tampering with the AC which would mean that they shouldnt be able to use what the results were because they tampered with it. Also if it malfunctioned my son wouldnt be alive? Because it was the cold air coming out the front that kept him alive. Even the doctors stated that.
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RisottoGroupon said:
"The 2 adult family members upstairs would wake me up if they heard the children."

Gee, guess they dont make baby monitors on planet Stupid Bitch
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Keepalowprofile said:
Baby girl. Baby girl. Baby girl.


You didn't answer my question.

The charges were dropped?
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I said baby girl because I see you only respond to the posts you want to argue about.
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I respond to what i want to respond to. Its just sad tbh that there are this many people that cant put themselves in others shoes and instead want to act like they know everything.
And they will be the 5th and the AC company is currently being sued
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Sugar Cookie said:
@Sotiredofthisshit
I have not found any references to the charges be dropped.

It does not matter how long that baby was left in the hot room you are a horrible mother and human being.

I do not doubt that you miss your daughter and that you are sorry that she died because of your piss poor parenting.

Attacking us will not change the fact that you are the reason that your daughter is no longer alive.
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Im not a horrible mother or human being. Yall simply want to just jump at whatever you can to attack others.
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Alf said:
Have you contacted Mr. McGraw to see what he thinks of you searching the Internet to find people to pick fights with, Mary? And if you did, did he say he thinks it's a good idea?

--Al
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Actually not picking fights simply stating facts. Which im allowed to do??
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Sally_Feschuk said:
14 hours. Two under two left for 14 hours and you dare come on here and give US shit? Baby girl deserved way better than what she got.
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Actually if math is done using the correct times its 8 hours so
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LFODBiker said:
Sure sounds like 'broken' to me.



This is on the purchaser, not the 'authorities'. When one usually buys an appliance, you normally check for - obvious damage; external parts needed for operation; the operators manual that (read carefully here) usually contains instructions on PROPER ASSEMBLY, INSTALLATION & OPERATION.



Gee whiz you know there's supposed to be an INSTRUCTION MANUAL. Wonderful things those, they tell you how to turn things on/off and how to check for proper operation. Also, in these situations, aren't A/C units supposed to be blowing COLD air, not hot? Did no one go into the room and go 'Holy fuck it's hotter than hell in here'???



You still are 'young', it's not like this thread was posted a decade or so ago. Thanks for bumping it. There was some chatter in the shoutbox that it was a slow newsday today.



That's completely on you and your family. From your own description of the events, no one in your family or circle of friends involved here had enough brain cells to competently install a basic A/C unit.



You should hang out here and get the vibe of this place. We're a group of jaded, equal opportunity haters. Each bringing their own flavor of frustration, anger, bewilderment and just plain loathing at the perps featured here.




I'm guessing here that you mean 'Grand Jury' instead of a 'jury trial' and that's the DA's job. The GJ determines (among other things) if a serious crime has been committed and tells the DA to proceed based on the evidence that's been presented. This is elementary level Civics. Use this situation to educate yourself on how the legal system actually works, not on how you wish it would work.

Emphasis mine -


What's the phrase here - Better to be judged by twelve...
You do realize that you mentioned several times earlier that the A/C unit was defective by the manufacturer. A/C fans can still run when they have no gas or when compressors fail. Again - It's up to the owner to ensure proper operation.



Based on the information you provided here, the DA is still planning to go ahead with the charges, so that means technically you're still under arrest and that, as Miranda says - Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.

DA's are also capable of using Google, you know that right? I wonder if your lawyer knows you're posting this shit.

Have fun in court.

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In the state of PA it is federal law that it is up to the MANUFACTURER to properly build and check for safety + add warnings no matter how small the chance of harm is. They did not. Not to mention the AC according to the manufacturer themself has a “safety sensor that detects if the hose is hooked into vent the hot air or not and that it will not start to run if the hose is not plugged in, and will stop running if the hose comes undone at anytime.” Pair that with the fact that this isn't the only case involving this companies machinery and fatalities due to their machinery, many including the same AC product. it does fall on the manufacturer.
No ones competence is based off of knowing how a piece of machinery is built and put together. “competent people know how to build or put together an AC” or whatever. Actually no, thats why technicians and engineers go to school. And I’d like to see any of you tell me word for word and step by step how to build/ put one together without instructions. None of y’all can, at least not without Google.
Also instructions are great. WHEN THEIR INCLUDED AND NOT WEDGED AND FOLDED DOWN INTO THE BOTTOM OF THE BOX. I also did not unbox the AC or set it up. A family member did because i knew i didn't know anything about putting machinery together. All i did once they checked it and ran it downstairs in the living room to make sure it was okay, was turn it on when it was moved upstairs. I was 18 and a stay at home mom, not an electrical engineer. Also its only fair trial when both sides are presented, thats what a jury is there for. For example if it was Austin and I that the jury saw instead of the Detective and they saw none of the other sides evidence they would say we were innocent. Because thats all they know. If you only see one side and one sides opinion your gonna go with it because you dont have any other choice.
 
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Sotiredofthisshit said:
i dont know how mocking another young mother about a situation you know nothing about is supposed to help?
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I did mention that you should get the vibe of this place right?

Since you seem to have difficulties understanding, try this -

We don't give a shit and we're not here to help you.

But since you insist on coming here to rant (badly) about how you or any of your family/friends 'dindunuffin' or how everything that is wrong with your life is the result of some external conspiratorial force and not your own incompetence, well you kinda opened yourself up.

You want to show us up??? Wait until after the trial then come here and gloat about how we were wrong about everything. Then after you get the lawsuit against the A/C manufacturer finished, you can use some of that sweet, sweet jackpot level settlement cash and sue the shit out of us for libel-slander. FUCK you can even make it a RICO case.

That will show us...
 
Sugar Cookie said:
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@Sotiredofthisshit @Sotiredofthisshit ..
hey cunt
My daughter had her first child at 18 and he’s 2 .. healthy .. handsome .. intelligent .. now pregnant with her second .. one difference .. she’s a mother and acts like a mother and he’s very much alive .. grow the fuck up .. take responsibility .. stop blaming others .. AGE HAS NOT A MF’N THING TO DO WITH IT .. laziness .. irresponsibility .. and passing the buck and you killed your kids .. let that sink in cunt
 
Sotiredofthisshit said:
Also instructions are great. WHEN THEIR INCLUDED AND NOT WEDGED AND FOLDED DOWN INTO THE BOTTOM OF THE BOX. I also did not unbox the AC or set it up. A family member did because i knew i didn't know anything about putting machinery together. All i did once they checked it and ran it downstairs in the living room to make sure it was okay, was turn it on when it was moved upstairs.
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What you just admitted was the instructions were in the box, but you and your family was either too lazy, or too stupid, to find them. So, instead of returning the AC unit back to the store because the instructions couldn't be found (even though a fucking normal 9 year old could find that particular manufacture's AC unit's instructions on the internet) you allowed a family member to "wing it" and install it anyways. Once installed by untrained, instructionless family member you failed to ensure that it was working properly by periodically checking on it. Which is amazingly stupid, since you knew the instructions weren't used, the family member was not a trained technician, and you left your child in the same room with it for hours on end.

To any reasonable person, all the failures you and your family made (failure to use the instructions, failure to return the unit due to no instructions, allowing a untrained person to install it, failing to periodically check on it, failing to ensure a proper environment was being maintain in the child's room) resulted in the tragedy.

Sotiredofthisshit said:
I was 18 and a stay at home mom
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That makes you a fucking adult and mabe if you acted like a competent one your child wouldn't be dead.
 
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@Sotiredofthisshit I know you've probably answered questions here and there in this post, and I understand you're going through all kinds of emotions, what-ifs, etc. You quoted my previous post, so you've read it. I'm just please, please asking that you take a few minutes/hours, and answer what my original post was about. I'm asking you to write down your full recollection of events, answering the questions I brought up, the inconsistencies in what the news is reporting. My genuine goal was to give you a way to tell the full story, something that the news isn't doing right now.

You said that there was an interview, I hadn't run across it on any news site. Do you have a link for that?
 
I have a hard time with the big ol' wall o'text too. But I did get one thing out of what she said, that the time the babies were left was NOT 14 hours it was ONLY 8 hours. Damn I wish my kids would have slept for 8 hours in one go, never left their bedrooms when they woke up. I might not be so sleep deprived now.

Tomorrow my oldest will be 40. (Sept. 4, 1979, the morning after Labor Day.) I'm so proud he lived thru his younger days, sometimes it was hit or miss. Especially since he only slept like 4-5 hours a night and tended to get up in the morning and make his own breakfast when he was 2.
 
@Sotiredofthisshit

Why do you keep coming back, and saying the same things every time? We can read very clearly what you are writing, and also very clearly what the reputable news sites, and court case proceedings sites delivering information on your case are writing and saying as well.

We clearly, and plainly don’t believe you.
We are not here debating on what happened.
It did happen.
Your baby died because you left her in a room for 14 hours.

Even if she was a super good sleeper, their was a literal, under 12 months baby in there... how could you not check on that one at least?
I don’t believe at all that no one heard that baby. Out of all these people, plus you, their actual mom, who should have an ear out for them, didn’t hear.
Ok then.
That baby was hungry! They can’t even go 6hrs without being fed when they’re that young. Maybe like “ok almost home don’t worry mama feed you”, not alllll night long and into the next day you lay in a room and mama still don’t feed you.

You remind me of one of my pre-schooler kids. We can go over everything time and time again but in the end you still walk away smiling because you think you won.
Even know all you said was gibberish, and nothing of substance was said by you at all.

I’m done with you and your messages until this case is done in court.

Well I’ll still read because this is juicy... but you just made a whole bunch of people very keen on knowing what happens with YOU.
 
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Go away @Sotiredofthisshit the more you come here the less I have any belief that your children mattered to you.

We are not your friends and do not care for you in any way. Our focus and concern here is and will always be the innocent children harmed and failed by abusive and neglectful parents.

I bet where ever you and the other adults in that house were cool and not subjected to a "malfunctioning AC.
 
Prettypink513 said:
That makes it better?
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Like pretty says. I don't get where this is all going. Beyond @Sotiredofthisshit says "it's not my fault, someone else screwed up" The baby is dead because somehow someone else thought it was OK to ignore the baby for several hours after installing an AC unit that no one was competent to install. Even though the instuction manual was in the box somewhere, if someone cared to actually dig for it.
Have I grasped the essentials? "We were not competent to keep our precious babies cool and safe enough for 24 hours"?
Because people in dreadfully hot monsoon climate seem to manage it witouth AC units. They sit up fanning the babes or leave them under trees/bushes, and i dunno, just places where the air current doesn't KILL BABIES because no one tried hard enough.
This is 2019. what did families do to keep toddlers cool in 1919? Set up a ice block and blame someone else when it melted too fast? No! They fucking tried harder !
maybe @Sotiredofthisshit can explain again why everyone else is to blame for not checking on an overheated baby for more than...TWO, FOUR, EIGHT, 14 HOURS.
Maybe an entire family screwed up. (Though I wonder) Y'all deserve each other. Only the dead overheated toddler didn't deserve The Trailer Trash Family Of Death. (And I wonder if the person who actually tried to install the alleged POS AC isn't being thrown under the bus by those most responsible!)
I'm sorrry that @Sotiredofthisshit may be breeding more helpless, hopeless spawn.
I also apologize for typing too much. I've stated the obvious.
 
Bottom line- if you bothered to check on your kids, you would have felt the heat in the room.

YOU. Not some oxy’ed out relative living in your crack commune. YOU.

Fuck you for even coming here to blame some manufacturer when you are a shit parent. Who leaves a 9 month old and a 20 month old for 14 (oops, I mean 9 *yeah right*) hours? You suck. Your baby is dead because of YOU.

Please go away and also please never have more babies, since you cannot be bothered to parent them,

Asshole.
 
I would sleep until my kids woke me up and I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and say it was 8 hours. The thing I can't get past is if the room was hot enough for air conditioning, and it was a new unit...wouldn't you have gone in to see if the room cooled off? Or if it got too cold. Don't most parents do the whole put a blanket on the baby, take one off the baby thing whenever the heat or air is first on? I know I did,
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To anyone confused, there was no malfunction. They didn't connect the hose that is supposed to go out a window so the hot air blows outside. They didn't get it out of the box until someone found the instructions. Portable air conditioners have a pretty big hose, hard to miss I would think.
 
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kennasmom said:
I would sleep until my kids woke me up and I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and say it was 8 hours. The thing I can't get past is if the room was hot enough for air conditioning, and it was a new unit...wouldn't you have gone in to see if the room cooled off? Or if it got too cold. Don't most parents do the whole put a blanket on the baby, take one off the baby thing whenever the heat or air is first on? I know I did,
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To anyone confused, there was no malfunction. They didn't connect the hose that is supposed to go out a window so the hot air blows outside. They didn't get it out of the box until someone found the instructions. Portable air conditioners have a pretty big hose, hard to miss I would think.
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Even a nine month old? I was a pretty chill mom, but even if I give her the 8-9 hour pass for the 20 month old in the sweltering room, I cannot for a nine month old.

I think mom was tweaked out and left her babies to convection bake.
 
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