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A scene in the 2017 Argentinian drama film Desearas (Desire), could find Netflix facing a child pornography investigation. The graphic scene includes young girls (around seven to nine years old) “playing horse” with pillows; according to The Daily Mail, “one of them apparently brings herself to orgasm with the camera on her face.”

The conservative-leaning website PJ Media says they have reported the film to not only the FBI, but the Department of Justice and to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children as well, especially after a video of the scene has been making its way around Facebook. This is not the first time PJ Media has taken on Netflix, either. In late 2017, their writer Megan Fox (who also wrote the aforementioned Desire piece) penned a critical essay of the Netflix original series Big Mouth, which she described as “little more than a pedophile’s grooming fantasy.”

User reviews of Desire on Netflix have not been favorable of the film either, with one user calling it “soft-core porn” and several others stating that it “makes no sense.”

The Netflix description of the film, directed by Diego Kaplan, reads, “A young woman arrives at her estranged sisters wedding to mend fences but falls prey to lust when she meets the groom.” Netflix rates the film as TV-MA, which is defined by the FCC thusly: “These programs are intended to be viewed by mature, adult audiences and may be unsuitable for children under 17.”

Netflix has yet to publicly comment or address the situation, but we will update when they do.

https://decider.com/2018/06/28/netf...1.1291396080.1530207630-1471312464.1530036270
 
Haven't seen it, and it doesn't sound interesting to me. I will say that I dislike the recent trend of gratuitous extremely graphic sex scenes in many shows on cable, Netflix, etc. If it doesn't add to the plot, it shouldn't be there, imho. It seems as if they are all trying to one up each other with who can add the most graphic sex scene. It annoys me.
 
I'm not interested in this either, but pillow humping doesn't seem so shocking. Kids do embarrassing things because they don't know any better.

@Brillig Have you watched Goliath Season 2 yet? It sucks ass but there is a certain locker room scene involving male full frontal nudity in Episode 2 that had DH and I laughing for days.

He yelled, "My GOD! Did you SEE that SCAR?"

Me: "What scar?"

"The massive 18" scar running straight down his chest!!! Didn't you see it???"

Me: "Ah. No. I guess I was distracted."

"HOW COULD YOU MISS IT? YOU WERE LOOKING AT HIS...?"

Me: "Yep." :shrug:
 
From what I read it's not so much the pillow humping as it is the "O Face" on the girl. WTF is wrong with that actresses parents. Who lets their kids do something like that.
 
I'm not interested in this either, but pillow humping doesn't seem so shocking. Kids do embarrassing things because they don't know any better.


Kids do this because it feel good ... and they're too innocent to feel embarrassed about it.

Shows like this is why my kids never watched anything but public television ... if they watched TV at all. Fuck you Networks ... go broad cast to another family, my kids were too precious for this kind of indoctrination. I'm glad they're making a big out of this ... because my kids are in their twenties now so I imagine programming is worse now.

So many parents and people just throw up their hands up in the air and say what can we do ... its just the way the world is today, and I hate people like that ... poor helpless little victims ... of themselves. Giving up their power instead of thinking.[/QUOTE]
 
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The fake outrage is hilarious. Mad Men had a more explicit scene in their show and no one said shit about it being child pornography. I can't wait until the Age of the Offended is fucking over.
 
The fake outrage is hilarious. Mad Men had a more explicit scene in their show and no one said shit about it being child pornography. I can't wait until the Age of the Offended is fucking over.


Yeah but why cater to the pedo's ? What a nine year old does in her bedroom, when she's alone is private, it shouldn't be broadcast. Not everything needs to made into a movie, or a TV show. Does net flix really think we don't know that kids touch themselves because it feels good ... like we were kids once, we know. It was a period of discovery and we learned something and it was innocent. What's sick about this is everyone is watching. Its supposed to be spectacle, and its exploitative. But worse ... its not even original, like pretty much everyone that works at netflix, mothers did this too, and our mothers and our grandmothers.

OMG ... Megan Fox ... with her seven year old boy's in dresses, because they want too? Her ?
Like if her kid said he wanted to play in traffic would she say yes to that too ? I don't know what I would have said to my, kid if they told me they wanted to wear a dress, because they thought it was pretty ... I think I would try aversion therapy, and tell him to go dig me a hole in the back yard. Let him figure it out for himself that its not practical.

How is it that Harvey W is in court ?
 
Yeah but why cater to the pedo's ? What a nine year old does in her bedroom, when she's alone is private, it shouldn't be broadcast.

Yeah, you're right. Let's ban any film that has a child in any sexualized role, like Jodi Foster in Taxi Driver, or Natalie Portman in Leon the Professional, or Brooke Shields in Blue Lagoon... I mean, my God, a pedo may like it!

Then let's stop any film that has things a psychopath may like, or a rapist, or a murderer! My God, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!!
 
Yeah, you're right. Let's ban any film that has a child in any sexualized role, like Jodi Foster in Taxi Driver, or Natalie Portman in Leon the Professional, or Brooke Shields in Blue Lagoon... I mean, my God, a pedo may like it!

To be fair, there is no little kid nudity in Taxi Driver or Leon, nor is there depictions of the children having sex or masturbating or experirencing sexual pleasure.

Leon is disturbingly creepy during that dress up scene, but it's hardly pornographic in the slightest.

Blue Lagoon should be banned, movie fucking sucks AND it's grotesquely creepy. Double whammy.

It does sound like this Argentinian trash goes a bit far.

I think child porn investigation is a bit much however. Waste of resources when you know the creators of the movie werent actually abusing kids on set(well i guess we can assume it likely wasnt happening, not like it was a Hollywood production afterall) and that the movie clearly isnt intended to be utilized for the purpose of promoting child porn or to satiate predators. A movie with a legitimate production and financial dealings to include netflix streaming hardly sounds like something some sickos thought up for such purposes. Then again, who knows. Either way, this would be a real slippery slope i think if they start going after every creepo movie.
 
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Yeah, you're right. Let's ban any film that has a child in any sexualized role, like Jodi Foster in Taxi Driver, or Natalie Portman in Leon the Professional, or Brooke Shields in Blue Lagoon... I mean, my God, a pedo may like it!

Then let's stop any film that has things a psychopath may like, or a rapist, or a murderer! My God, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!!


I'm not denying we're sexual beings from birth to death ... I'm just saying somethings are private.
 
To be fair, there is no little kid nudity in Taxi Driver or Leon, nor is there depictions of the children having sex or masturbating or experirencing sexual pleasure.

I wasn't comparing the scenes as much as I was responding to lithiumgirl's "why cater to pedos" statement.

Either way, this would be a real slippery slope i think if they start going after every creepo movie.

And this isn't even a creepo movie. It's a foreign film no one would have ever paid any attention to if someone hadn't clutched their pearls over a young girl's O face. Again, where was the outrage when the young girl in the hit show Mad Men got busted masturbating on a couch during a sleepover?

Oh yeah. There wasn't any because that was 2010 and people hadn't lost their goddamn minds yet. :p
 
I wasn't comparing the scenes as much as I was responding to lithiumgirl's "why cater to pedos" statement.



And this isn't even a creepo movie. It's a foreign film no one would have ever paid any attention to if someone hadn't clutched their pearls over a young girl's O face. Again, where was the outrage when the young girl in the hit show Mad Men got busted masturbating on a couch during a sleepover?

Oh yeah. There wasn't any because that was 2010 and people hadn't lost their goddamn minds yet. :p
Is that what’s under your couch? All the lost minds?
 
And this isn't even a creepo movie. It's a foreign film no one would have ever paid any attention to if someone hadn't clutched their pearls over a young girl's O face. Again, where was the outrage when the young girl in the hit show Mad Men got busted masturbating on a couch during a sleepover?

Both are total creepo

Being a foreign film doesnt prevent it from being creepy

Mad Men blows btw so i never watched that ep
 
Mad Men blows btw so i never watched that ep

I've never watched it at all. But that wasn't my point. You don't have to have watched it wonder why if it wasn't a big deal then, why is it national news now? This current culture of being outraged and pissed and ANYTHING and EVERYTHING is so fucking lame.
 
Oh yeah. There wasn't any because that was 2010 and people hadn't lost their goddamn minds yet. :p

Okay ... Call me Crazy, but I know this is private, and its creepy that everyone is watching. The parent of this kid needs a shot to the head, or otherwise a kick in the teeth.
 
I've never watched it at all. But that wasn't my point. You don't have to have watched it wonder why if it wasn't a big deal then, why is it national news now? This current culture of being outraged and pissed and ANYTHING and EVERYTHING is so fucking lame.

Maybe people are rallying against this, this time because twice is too much. Perhaps its not acceptable to most people that this kind of programming becomes the norm ... People can and do push back ... like look at Trump!

Look at the Movie about the dogs and the ball and cock check that could have easily been omitted ... look at the playdoh cake decorator that was shaped like a dildo. Sex written in the lion kind and all of the other instances of too much sexuality being marketed to children, that I didn't bother listing. This is a problem .. we know it is, or people wouldn't be concerned.
 
This is a problem .. we know it is, or people wouldn't be concerned.

Such bullshit. It wasn't a problem then and it isn't one now. You are MAKING IT ONE. It is 100 percent manufactured outrage. It's funny... when the Republicans pushed for the censorship of "devil music" horror movies, rap and video games, people screamed bloody murder because they were fucking sane in thinking that it was all pearl-clutching nonsense.

Now? How the tables have turned. Fortunately, the people trying to remove things they are offended by or they find "problematic" are in the minority. Unfortunately, they are the loudest.
 
Such bullshit. It wasn't a problem then and it isn't one now. You are MAKING IT ONE. It is 100 percent manufactured outrage. It's funny... when the Republicans pushed for the censorship of "devil music" horror movies, rap and video games, people screamed bloody murder because they were fucking sane in thinking that it was all pearl-clutching nonsense.

Now? How the tables have turned. Fortunately, the people trying to remove things they are offended by or they find "problematic" are in the minority. Unfortunately, they are the loudest.


ME ? I don't think I'm alone ... don't put it on me. I'm not your whipping girl Morbid. Horror movies don't sexually exploit children, its exactly the opposite, the slut usually gets it first, there is a lesson there. I don't recall knowing who Tipper Gore was when I was nine ... I listened to mini pops ... And what ever my parents had on the car radio, because I was a little kid. And it was age appropriate. The PMRC wasn't a concern of mine until I was 14 and started really liking metal. But this isn't about that ... its about the agenda some networks have about overtly sexualizing children and the only people that appeals too is Pedo's.

And as far a boundaries go ... do we really want to break this one ? No ... we don't, and you have to know it too by the anger that is expressed in the posts made here every day.

You do know that video games are a problem right ... according to WHO it is ... but what the fuck do they know?

Like if they tell you Ebola is bad for you ... you listen. But too many video games .. .well WHO is suddenly the dumbest organisation on the planet right?
 
About those video games @Morbid ... I'm not against video games, I'm against video games with out limits.

We need limits ... they keep us from dying. Or otherwise hurting ourselves or others.
 
ME ? I don't think I'm alone ... don't put it on me. I'm not your whipping girl Morbid.

Oh, you are definitely not alone. There seem to be a never-ending supply of pearls for the concerned to clutch these days. But like I said, you are just part of the loud minority.

Oh, and I don't consider you a whipping girl at all -- you are just the only one responding back at the moment... besides, that would also mean I was assuming your gender. We wouldn't want that, would we?
 
I wouldn't be offended if you assumed i was a girl ... I am and i like it.

I wish everyone felt that way about their biological sex .... six year olds should not be full of that kind of self loathing.

A loud minority ... really? I guess ... if minority, means group of intelligent, people that set healthy limits.
 
I don’t really want to see this movie, but I’ve always found it weird that Americans are totally ok with gory violence but freak the fuck out if any sex or sexual scenes are showed.
 
You do know that video games are a problem right ... according to WHO it is ... but what the fuck do they know?

When it comes to playing video games? Not much at all, apparently.

The American Psychological Association’s Media Psychology and Technology division released a policy statement opposing the WHO’s decision. Twenty eight scholars who study problematic gaming also wrote an open letter to the WHO opposing the decision. The opposition of these scholars tends to take three forms.

http://thehill.com/opinion/healthca...ls-moral-panic-with-gaming-disorder-diagnosis

There are so many professionals on their ass over that stupid "gaming disorder" (lol) decision that they are either going to have to walk it back, or end up looking like a joke.
 
I've never watched it at all. But that wasn't my point. You don't have to have watched it wonder why if it wasn't a big deal then, why is it national news now? This current culture of being outraged and pissed and ANYTHING and EVERYTHING is so fucking lame.

I would need to see how the scene in Mad Men was filmed vs the one from this South American trash. Are we talking teenager in Mad Men(perhaps even portrayed by an of age actress?) vs these under 10 year olds in the Argentinian movie? How intense is it done, how long, are there closeups? These things matter when it comes to how it's received by the public, whether folks feel it is shattering boundaries and taking things too far or not.

I never miss an opportunity to bash something that sucks though, even if it admittedly isnt pertinent to the core discussion.

Look at the Movie about the dogs and the ball and cock check that could have easily been omitted ... look at the playdoh cake decorator that was shaped like a dildo. Sex written in the lion kind

What in the fuck are you talking about???? Are these dreams you had or are you describing actual movies?

It's funny... when the Republicans pushed for the censorship of "devil music" horror movies, rap and video games, people screamed bloody murder because they were fucking sane in thinking that it was all pearl-clutching nonsense.

Now? How the tables have turned. Fortunately, the people trying to remove things they are offended by or they find "problematic" are in the minority. Unfortunately, they are the loudest.

To be fair, a clear depiction of a fucking 9 year old masturbating to completion provides a bit more reason for outrage than totally imagined hidden messages in song lyrics encouraging kids to commit suicide.

We would have a far richer culture if rap had been successfully banned/restricted though. Wish they coulda found some success there. Filth.

And as far a boundaries go ... do we really want to break this one ? No ... we don't, and you have to know it too by the anger that is expressed in the posts made here every day.

The problem is there CAN be a legitimate, artistic or story integral reason for a depiction of a child in extremely offputting and even grotesque situations. Taxi Driver was mentioned earlier, which is a good example.That movies plot hinges on the existence of this seedy, gritty, grotesque underworld. There's a slippery slope present with this discussion, and anyone who appreciates quality cinema and the freedom of artistic expression and storytelling should be strongly against the prospect of a film like Taxi Driver getting crushed into oblivion.

You do know that video games are a problem right ... according to WHO it is ... but what the fuck do they know?

A problem for who; wives who wish their frumpy doucher husbands would do more chores around the house or help out more with the child rearin instead of making some little kid 500 miles away cry in frustration in a game of Call of Duty? A problem for nerds walking out in front of traffic as they stay glued to the lameass pokemon nonsense on their cellphone screens?

Videogames pose absolutely NO real world, genuine problems in the world.

But too many video games .. .well WHO is suddenly the dumbest organisation on the planet right?

An excess of fucking anything is negative. Only a total dumbfuck would need someone else to inform them of that.

but I’ve always found it weird that Americans are totally ok with gory violence but freak the fuck out if any sex or sexual scenes are showed.

Violence is far more normal for a kid to see than sex, especially if it's gratuitous. Kids grow up with exposure to violence in cartoons, in their superheros, professional wrestling, i could go on. Mainstream, widely played and/or viewed sports like football and wrestling are inherently violent. They see it all over television minus the gore/bloodshed.

Given that normalized exposure to violence in a general sense, and how commonplace it is, it's simply not AS jarring when bloodshed is added into it. If anything, that actually might knock the fun and appeal out of it a fair bit, makes it feel more real and serious. I know i showed Saving Private Ryan to my kids prob a bit earlier than i should have, but it was interesting to see them go from cheering war/action scenes and thinking they were "badass" to the shocked, horrified, speechless faces they wore while watching that.

Sex isnt so commonplace. Kids arent being exposed to that in lighter forms as part of their normal, everyday viewing of cartoons, sports(no kid is watching womens water polo during the olympics), tv, movies, unless their parents let them watch fucking anything regardless of how appropriate it is. So when they finally do get that first exposure, when they finally do stumble across that porno mag under the bed or website at a delinquent friends house or movie they prob are too young for, it's far more shocking and harder for a kid to wrap their head around. Kids/teens go from zero to 60 when it comes to sexual imagery in entertainment.

I think it's also true that kids/teens are FARRRRRRRRRR more likely to imitate and be impacted by sexual imagery than gory violence. Only a straight up sociopath is picking up a machete and going on a rampage after watching some gory horror movie(the aforementioned, and bloodless, professional wrestling is responsible for the most imitation and injuries by kids by FARRRR actually). But it's pretty damn normal for even a decent, perfectly normal kid to perhaps start experimenting with some girl down the street far earlier than they should be, or start advancing sooner in general in this regard after getting some ideas from the shit they watch. Simply put, sex for a fact has a FARRRRR more direct impact on behavior than violence when it comes to what a kid sees in tv/movies.
 
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@JackBurton

WHO ? World Health Organisation ... and yes, I was speaking of actual movies, because there is a movie marketed to children about a dog undergoing a cock and ball check ... in the movie even the dog was adverse. He was encouraged to just go with it. There was some outrage. and rightly so.
 
I don’t really want to see this movie, but I’ve always found it weird that Americans are totally ok with gory violence but freak the fuck out if any sex or sexual scenes are showed.



YOu mean the Americans that have a strangle hold on the porn industry ?

I think you're reaching about Americans being uptight about sex in movies ... Most healthy people are adverse to sex scenes that involve children. None of us go through puberty at four ... same as no six year old is really transgendered ... that is the agenda of adult that needs a cause and is willing to exploit their children for a ride on the bandwagon.

Children should not be sexually objectified. Not by and through an unhealthy focus on gender or by Netflix.
 
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