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Snoods

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Butchered because the 9 month old wouldn't stop crying

Three children were murdered, apparently for no other reason than to silence the crying of a nine-month-old baby.

Then, their small bodies broken, they were impaled on garden railings in an act of grotesque savagery that shocked the nation.

The date was Friday, April 13, 1973. Mother Elsie Ralph, was 23 and working as a barmaid in Worcester.

Her husband Clive Ralph had gone to collect her from work and had left their children in the care of David McGreavy, a family friend and lodger.

The children knew him well, and had played with him happily in the past. The couple thought they had no reason to worry about the welfare of their children.

Yet, when they returned to their home in Gillam Street, Worcester, they discovered that the police were waiting for them.

An officer escorted to them to the local police station and broke the news: Paul, four, Dawn, two, and baby Samantha were all dead.

The couple were told McGreavy had admitted killing them, but that police were still looking for their bodies. Later that night, they were found in a row, impaled on a neighbour's spiked garden railings.

McGreavy, 21, who had been kicked out of the Royal Navy, reportedly told police that Samantha had wanted her bottle and wouldn't stop crying.

'I put my hand over her mouth and it went from there,' he said. 'It's all in the house. On Paul I used a wire. I was going to bury [Paul] but I couldn't… I went outside and put them on the fence. All I can hear is kids, kids, kids.'

Paul was strangled, Dawn had had her throat cut and Samantha died from a compound fracture to the skull.

The then 21-year-old McGreavy was jailed for life, with a minimum term of 20 years.

He has since spent time in an open prison and was allowed to stay in a Liverpool bail hostel on temporary license before being returned when the public found out. He has also applied for parole at least nine times.

[...]

A source said: 'He keeps himself to himself but he can basically live as he pleases. He has him own cooking facilities, and can go to the library and get out any book he wants. But nobody speaks to him.'

A Ministry of Justice spokesperson said: 'We do not comment on individuals. The release of prisoners serving a life sentence is entirely a matter for the independent Parole Board.

It remains unclear if there was more to the killings and prison psychologists who interviewed McGreavy explored the possibility that there may have been a 'sexual motive'.

In 2013, Mrs Urry, who took an overdose six months after losing her children, and has since moved from Worcester, said she had lived through '40 years of hell'.

'If he was released, I'd be waiting outside with a gun,' she said after McGreavy's Human Rights petition was quashed. 'Life should mean life and he should never get to walk free. He got off lightly with a life sentence – he should have been hanged.

'I think about what he did every minute of every day because he took my life away. I can't go to family parties any more, I can't celebrate anything. Put yourself in my shoes, how would you feel?

'I can't and will never move on. For what he did to my three children and me, he deserves the same treatment that they got – death.'

McGreavy today and at 21 in 1973, the year he killed the children



If you live in Great Britain and some guy who looks like "House" moves into your neighborhood, remove your fencing and keep your children close.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3627622/Notorious-Monster-Worcester-killed-three-children-babysitting-impaled-bodies-spiked-garden-railings-prepared-release.html
 

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Snoods

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Why is that monster walking amongst humans? The man strangled a four year old, gave an infant a compound skull fracture, slit the throat of a two year old and impaled them on a fence FFS! He should be locked in the deepest, darkest, dankest cell and feed only rat excrement to survive... :rage:
I know, it boggles the mind. How is someone like this EVER allowed to be free and walk our streets? He was even living in a Liverpool bail hostel for a short time before the public found out and he was returned to prison.

Simply killing the kids wasn't enough for him, he had to leave all three of them in a row, hanging on garden fence spikes. What the hell does it take for someone to be jailed for their actual life and not fake court life?
 

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mynameiskat

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Those kids have some strong ass genetics I Will say that for certain
Mom looks like a crazy versions of the progressive chick Flo!!!
 

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ScarlettHarlot

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I <3 you Snoods, but this guy does not look like Hugh Laurie. Hugh is a beloved national institution, and one of my earliest crushes. This dude looks like the psychopath he is!
 

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mybum62

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I don't understand why the citizens of the UK don't protest and do what they have to in order to change the laws. The UK is way too soft on criminals. This man should never be free for his crimes. I hope the mom is waiting for him outside the prison when he is released. Killing him would be worth spending a couple of yrs in prison...I mean hell...they aren't going to give mom a life sentence over killing the man who killed her children in the grostesque manner by which he did. She'd probably do two years at most...after her circumtances are taken into consideration. Go for it mom.
 

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Keepalowprofile

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I <3 you Snoods, but this guy does not look like Hugh Laurie. Hugh is a beloved national institution, and one of my earliest crushes. This dude looks like the psychopath he is!
I thought he was a good looking man.
And that's the damn scary part about it.
He could hang around a park or some other place a young mother might be with her children. Get to know them a bit and bam do it all over again.
I wished he looked frighteningly grotesque. But he looks rugged in a house sort of way. This guy should have been locked up for life. The real life = until he took his last breath.
 
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lithiumgirl

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I <3 you Snoods, but this guy does not look like Hugh Laurie. Hugh is a beloved national institution, and one of my earliest crushes. This dude looks like the psychopath he is!
I went to House too...the posture, the clothes, the hair kind of.

You know Hugh Laurie is Odd right...his best friend is Stephen Fry and Stephen is bent for sure.

Probably a psychopath...and definitely a card carrying member of NAMBLA.

Stephen I mean...not Hugh...but birds of a feather flock together.

I know Hugh is married and everything, but charade and good actor.
 

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ScarlettHarlot

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I don't understand why the citizens of the UK don't protest and do what they have to in order to change the laws. The UK is way too soft on criminals. This man should never be free for his crimes. I hope the mom is waiting for him outside the prison when he is released. Killing him would be worth spending a couple of yrs in prison...I mean hell...they aren't going to give mom a life sentence over killing the man who killed her children in the grostesque manner by which he did. She'd probably do two years at most...after her circumtances are taken into consideration. Go for it mom.
People do, but lack of prison space and, of course, always funding, means the government largely ignores it. But the same way people complain and fight for a better healthcare system there, some people are apathetic, some like the system just as it is, and some continue to fight, but the government will do what it wants. Just going out and changing it isn't as easy as it sounds.
 

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ScarlettHarlot

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I went to House too...the posture, the clothes, the hair kind of.

You know Hugh Laurie is Odd right...his best friend is Stephen Fry and Stephen is bent for sure.

Probably a psychopath...and definitely a card carrying member of NAMBLA.

Stephen I mean...not Hugh...but birds of a feather flock together.

I know Hugh is married and everything, but charade and good actor.
Stephen Fry is openly gay, not a paedophile. He's a fantastic intellect and comedian, openly talks about his bipolar disorder to try to help raise awareness of mental health issues, and a great writer. He's another national treasure, and what you said amounts to treason. Off with your head!
 

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lithiumgirl

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If "fairly accurate" can also mean "almost completely factually incorrect", then sure.

The guy is funny...But Don't try to tell me that funny people are excluded from being card

carrying members of NAMBLA. Consider that lots of entertainers are part of that circle.

Just because you don't like it very much doesn't make it untrue.

It just means that you'll sit here and lie to yourself to make yourself feel better.
 

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Snoods

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I <3 you Snoods, but this guy does not look like Hugh Laurie. Hugh is a beloved national institution, and one of my earliest crushes. This dude looks like the psychopath he is!
I was a little drunky last night and had my beer goggles on. Funny because I was just looking at his picture again before reading your post and was thinking hmmm, he doesn't look quite as much like House as I thought he did. Maybe a tiny bit. :p
 
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cubby

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I love Stephen Fry, anyone who's never watched "QI" should check him out!
 

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DivineRAiN

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Why is that monster walking amongst humans? The man strangled a four year old, gave an infant a compound skull fracture, slit the throat of a two year old and impaled them on a fence FFS! He should be locked in the deepest, darkest, dankest cell and feed only rat excrement to survive...
WHY is the dude STILL Alive? The fucker murdered 3 children and then impaled their bodies on a fence FFS! Dude shouldn't be taking a stroll to the library, he should be frippin Dead! Was he in prison with a buncha wusses?


All I can hear is kids, kids, kids.'
why don't people who can't stand kids try to do more to avoid living with kids, babysitting kids..having kids?
 

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Francyne32

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Omg. This was one of the more disturbing ones I've read in a while. The poor parents. Those poor babies. I can't even wrap my brain around this. Not only did he kill them all in different brutal ways.... no, that wasn't good enough for him... He desecrated and stole away any shred of innocence of these babies little bodies by impaling all 3 for the world to see!? Wtf is wrong with people. There is no way this thing should have spent the years lounging away- watching TV, reading books and even cooking for himself. The justices system is just as perverse as this mans crimes!!! There is NO rehabilitation to enter society again for a crime of this magnitude!! Period! I don't know why law makers allow this to go on.. Year after year, day after day and brutal murder after brutal murder? But, I find that once THEY have a family member that is killed or traumatized from a terrific crime, they change their tune! Not to mention that there "may have been the possibility of a sudden it exual motive"!! What!? You can bet your ass that there probably was, and sexually motivated or not,It doesn't get any worse then impaling babies! If that does not have a "sexual undertone" I don't know what the fuck does!. That poor mother. All of her babies, gone... And this asshole will walk soon and have the rest of his life to live outside of any constraints. This was a hard read. I pray that mother finds some kind of peace before she dies. Hopefully gained by dealing a slow death to this criminal. A person who displays this kind of behavior no matter if he is amoral or immoral, has NO place in society! Period!
 
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sarahdownunder

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I was a little drunky last night and had my beer goggles on. Funny because I was just looking at his picture again before reading your post and was thinking hmmm, he doesn't look quite as much like House as I thought he did. Maybe a tiny bit. :p

If you're ever in Melbourne, hit me up, I'll take you out for a night on the town! If your beer goggles can do that, well, I'm betting we'll have a bloody entertaining night. Until I have to peel you off some dude you think looks like a bit of alright, but on fact, is a bush pig lol. ;):D<3
 

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Snoods

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If you're ever in Melbourne, hit me up, I'll take you out for a night on the town! If your beer goggles can do that, well, I'm betting we'll have a bloody entertaining night. Until I have to peel you off some dude you think looks like a bit of alright, but on fact, is a bush pig lol.
You're on! I've always wanted to go to Australia. Every Australian I've known has a wicked sense of humor and are great people. I don't really drink beer, just wine, so for the sake of accuracy when I get drunk I have wine contact lenses. And that's a true friend, offering to peel me off a bush pig. :hug::hilarious:

 

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sarahdownunder

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We have to have a sense of humour ha ha. Everything flora and fauna and weather related on this bloody island is out to kill us!

Its that 'she'll be right, mate' attitude. We can do a road trip to the Outback. Wait til you get a good look at the Coober Pedy or Alice Springs locals at their watering holes lol. You'll need wine goggles just to get through the evening :D
 

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sarahdownunder

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I've always and forever (since grade four) wanted to see Coober Peedy!!! And Alice Springs too! That's it, I'm buttin' in and inviting myself along, but only if you have some kind of fool proof spider repellent I can wear! I seem to have become a siren song to poisonous spiders in the past decade or so. I don't wanna die on vacation! :hilarious:

Ha ha ha. You're welcome to join in! Although why the batcrap you'd want to see coober pedy or Alice, I don't know lol.

Spider repellant.. Hmm.. I tell you what. I'll arm you the Aussie way. A cigarette lighter and a large can of aerosol hairspray.

We'll make a firebug out of you lol.
 

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sarahdownunder

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Because they seemed so exotic to me! I don't know if you've noticed, but I can be a bit contrary at times... :shame: My grade four teacher assigned us to do a report on two Australian towns. Most did Sydney and either Melbourne, Adelaide or Brisbane. I did Coober Peedy and Alice Springs. Because contrary... ;)
Contrary indeed ha ha. Coober Pedy is a little dust town on the edge of nowhere. Like Alice, its just red waste as far as the eye can see and punishingly hot. Quite a few of the people there live semi underground lives because its so hot. And its rough and wild lol. And Alice. Good old Alice. Its calling card, aside from the heat and red dirt, is Aborigines and corrugated tin shanty's. It is a smallish town, but its a brief stopping point, on the edge of hell, where you get food, fuel and water before bolting north or south.

Plenty of bush pig's in both though, so I figure a country pub tour for Snoods would have me in stitches at least :D
 

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Sejanus

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This devil will kill again.
Count on it.

That blood will be on the hands of the system that freed him.
Just think of it...
Right now, there could be someone living a good happy life that this fiend will no doubt snuff out.
He was behind bars where he could do no harm...but not anymore.

Finally I am very saddened that he made it full prison term without other inmates cashing him out.
Very disappointing indeed.
 

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Satanica

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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-46437471
David McGreavy was sentenced to life in 1973 for killing Paul Ralph, four, and his sisters Dawn, two, and nine-month-old Samantha in their Worcester home.

Their mother Elsie Urry told The Sun she had "begged" that McGreavy, who is now in his late 60s, stay locked up.

A Parole Board report said he "changed considerably" over 45 years in jail.

The board confirmed a panel had directed his release following an oral hearing.
[....]
Ms Urry, who has also been known as Dorothy, previously said he should never be released.

She told the BBC two years ago she regularly visited her children's graves in Worcester from her Hampshire home.

Ms Urry said McGreavy, who was 21 when he was jailed, had been her husband's friend and stayed with them because he had fallen out with his parents.

On the night of the killings he had babysat the children for up to an hour so she could work in a pub.

Ms Urry said she needed to earn money as they were trying to buy a home.

"I just feel that people blame me for what happened because I was working that evening," she said.

Ms Urry told The Sun after news he had been cleared for release: "What this animal did to my children was every bit as bad as what the Moors Murderers did.

"He put my babies on spikes for God's sake - he mutilated them and they died in agony."

She was reassured after his trial "his crime was so terrible he would never walk free again" and now felt "betrayed".

A board document referred to a victim personal statement from Ms Urry "setting out the devastating effect that these deaths had on her and still do have".

But it said McGreavy now had "a considerable understanding of the problems that he has had and what caused them".

It added: "The psychologist identified a number of factors which make it less likely that Mr McGreavy will reoffend in future.

"These included his improved self-control and the fact that Mr McGreavy has learnt to remain calm in stressful situations.

"A network of supportive friends in the community was also identified as a protective factor."

The possible release of McGreavy has been discussed by authorities for at least 10 years.
 

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lithiumgirl

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This story is the same story we read about here years and years later ... mom was at work ... the kids died ... period. I think this lady is delusional to think that her being out working at the bar isn't significant ... or some lodger watching her kids for hours at at time is okay ... its not. Its not okay that this guy is getting out either.
 

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Pandorama

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'A babysitter who killed three children and impaled their bodies on garden railings has been cleared for release.
David McGreavy was sentenced to life in 1973 for killing Paul Ralph, four, and his sisters Dawn, two, and nine-month-old Samantha in their Worcester home.
Their mother Elsie Urry told The Sun she had "begged" that McGreavy, who is now in his late 60s, stay locked up.
A Parole Board report said he "changed considerably" over 45 years in jail.
McGreavy, who was dubbed the "Monster of Worcester", was the family's lodger and claimed he killed the children because one of them would not stop crying.
He strangled Paul at the home in Gillam Street, Rainbow Hill, while Dawn was found with her throat cut. Samantha died from a compound fracture to the skull.
Ms Urry, who has also been known as Dorothy, previously said he should never be released.'

more details at site

https://bbc.in/2EcpDtZ
 

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