• You must be logged in to see or use the chatbox



A Kentucky man who allegedly broke into his neighbor's home and took his clothes off in a 12-year-old girl's room on Sunday was shot six times by the homeowner, according to officials.

Donald Oliver, 38, is charged with first-degree burglary, fourth-degree assault and heroin possession after breaking into the Louisville home around 7 a.m., according to court documents obtained by WDRB.

The girl's mother, Tina Burton, told the television station her daughter was in bed when she heard a noise as Oliver broke into their home and began undressing.

"She was really smart," she told WDRB. "She hid under the cover, turned her light down, turned her volume down on her phone to text me. When she peeked under the cover to see where he was at, she got up and ran away. She went to the back room. And I think that was really brave and smart of her."

Oliver -- wearing nothing but his underwear -- then went from the girl's bedroom to the kitchen where he encountered Burton's boyfriend, Ali Bracey.

"I told him to get out, and he didn’t want to move. And he growled at me," Bracey said

A physical struggle then broke out, with Bracey striking Oliver with a broom before he began to be overtaken "due to the suspect's size," according to an arrest report obtained by WDRB.

After yelling for help, Burton got a gun from her bedroom and handed it to her boyfriend, who then was able to get up and fire several rounds at Oliver.

Bracey said that other neighbors agreed with his use of force.

"Everyone has actually commended me on what I did. There hasn’t been any real backlash other than [Oliver's] family," he said. "But everyone in the neighborhood has commended me on what I did."
 

Comments

JackBurton

Veteran Member
Bold Member!
Curious if this dude is just shameless and lied and said he was getting beat on/ "overtaken" to ensure his self defense claim goes thru or if he legit was in trouble.

Would not be a bad idea to lie in such a situation.

Not sure how he permitted the scumbag to survive. Pretty fucking dumb.
 

Don't like ads? Then help out the site and GO BOLD!


Don't like ads? Then help out the site and GO BOLD!


Don't like ads? Then help out the site and GO BOLD!


Don't like ads? Then help out the site and GO BOLD!


Don't like ads? Then help out the site and GO BOLD!


Don't like ads? Then help out the site and GO BOLD!


Don't like ads? Then help out the site and GO BOLD!


Don't like ads? Then help out the site and GO BOLD!


Don't like ads? Then help out the site and GO BOLD!


Don't like ads? Then help out the site and GO BOLD!


Don't like ads? Then help out the site and GO BOLD!


Don't like ads? Then help out the site and GO BOLD!


Don't like ads? Then help out the site and GO BOLD!


Don't like ads? Then help out the site and GO BOLD!


Don't like ads? Then help out the site and GO BOLD!

Was the boyfriend a dwarf? Seriously the heroin fiend looks like he's probably 5ft 8in at most. Only real problem I see is he survived. The boyfriend didn't even need an excuse for attempting to use deadly force.
That's what my thought was too... Like was dude my height? Lmao I'm 5'1 .... This guy doesn't look very big in height or weight .... Doesn't look muscular what so ever.... And hell no... He sure wouldn't had been walking out that's for sure!
 

Don't like ads? Then help out the site and GO BOLD!


Don't like ads? Then help out the site and GO BOLD!


Don't like ads? Then help out the site and GO BOLD!

Ramona the brave

Active Member
Not everyone wants to use deadly force.
I personally wouldn't want to have to live the rest of my life knowing I might have made the wrong choice. Now there are some criminals out there I would dearly love to have 5 minutes alone with and they would probably not come out alive. But this one seems more to me like he was just crazy and on drugs. Not an upstanding member of the community by any stretch, but possibly meriting an actual trial prior to vigilante execution. If he had tried to touch the girl then it would be a different story, but it doesn't seem like he did.
 

Don't like ads? Then help out the site and GO BOLD!

Alf

Cereal Box Reader
Bold Member!
I can't think of any sane person that does want to use deadly force. In this case, though, its use would have been justifiable.

Dennis Tueller is or at least was a training sergeant with the Slat Lake City police department. He developed the "Tueller drill" to demonstrate how close was too close. The upshot is, if an assailant armed with a knife is within 21 feet he or she is close enough to reach and wound or kill a defender before the defender can react.

I don't believe the little girl's bedroom would have allowed him to be 21 feet from her. practically speaking, that means he could have grabbed her at any moment he chose and she could not have managed to flee before he had her. I am not privy to the investigation; ergo, I am not aware why Mr., Oliver did not grab the 12-year-old he apparently sought out.

Mr. Oliver was afforded an opportunity to leave. He did not avail himself of that opportunity; instead, when Mr. Bracey sought to compel him to leave he fought back, putting Mr. Bracey in fear for his life and giving him, not justification, but additional justification, for using deadly force in defense of his life and that of his family, for as soon as Mr. Oliver broke into an occupied dwelling Mr. Bracey or any other resident would have been justified, under Kentucky law, in using deadly force to stop Mr. Oliver. Under Kentucky, law, there is a presumption that somebody breaking into an occupied dwelling is there for malign purposes.

"To stop" is an important distinction. It is a fact of human physiology that the same shot placement that renders an assailant unable to continue an assault is likely to be lethal, but the fact still remains that the intent is to stop the attack, not to kill the assailant. There was a pharmacist featured here on the Dreamin' Demon some time back who got into a shootout with an armed robber and won, then stood over his unconscious adversary and executed him. That last round got him sent to prison, which is as it should be. Had the robber died as a result of one of the rounds he took while he was conscious and firing, my reaction would be to shrug and say, "Play stupid games; win stupid prizes", but since the attack had been stopped the pharmacist was in the wrong. He's paying the price.

--Al
cutting it short
 

Don't like ads? Then help out the site and GO BOLD!


Don't like ads? Then help out the site and GO BOLD!

Members online

Top