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Miss. Hill
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OMG that so sucks, I have to admit I was laughing through the article!
My wife needed a shave
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My wife needed a shave
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Shadow
Charmed, I'm sure....
wait.. if julia/julio went through gender re-assignment.. why does he still have to pay? julia/julio made a decision to become a man without talking to the husband about it before even starting it, which probably eventually led to their separation.. Uhm.. julia/julio shouldn't be getting *anything* from the ex. except a wave and a goodbye..
~ceisdsgil
~ceisdsgil
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Damn.... She sure turned into an old, fugly looking guy.
If I had an ex, there is no way in hell he would be telling me how to spend my money. Does not matter what if I wanted a boob job, lasix surgery, a penguin, or a case of Oreos. It's not his decision in any way shape or form. He pays the alimony, it is now his/her money. The sex of the recipient has no bearing on the court order. She changed her sex but not the fact that he/she was married to him.
I do question why the hell he/she evens gets alimony in the first place and for how long. I suspect that there is something more than what is reported in the article. He returned to the courts and lost. I'ld like to know the reason, his evidence, and his/her rebuttal.
Once he saw what was going on with her, did he think he could change her mind? Was he hoping she'd go girly just for him? Wonder how long they stayed married...
Shadow
Charmed, I'm sure....
I'm not sure I agree, but I do see your point. She started out as a woman, who underwent gender re-assignment, this is setting a precedent for others who will 'marry' just to get alimony so their gender re-assignment and subsequent care is paid for. (Another form of abuse of the system, if you will) I don't think she should be permitted to continue to draw alimony. I don't agree with women who marry just to get alimony so they don't ever have to work, either. I think it's selfish and lazy.
~ceisdsgil
It is harder than a mofo to get alimony in most states, especially if the man doesn't make ALOT more than you. Then you have to prove you supported the man either financially or emotionally throughout the marriage. In Oregon it must last for at least five years. I was going to get alimony for 3 years, that was it. Conditional alimony to get some schooling and get back on my feet. And I am one of the very few I know of. But I refused it, he is in my life enough already.
I agree with Dakota though. It sucks for him, but like any cosmetic surgery it is his/her money to spend as she pleases.
I agree with Dakota though. It sucks for him, but like any cosmetic surgery it is his/her money to spend as she pleases.
It is no different than a "gold digger" who marries for the same reason. There is a much larger precedent there. If a partner can prove that "potential maybe-i'll-get-it alimony" was the reason for the marriage, I highly doubt the plan will work. And the "wannabe the other sex" person is going to have to find someone to marry them in the first place. A gold digger of the opposite sex has a better chance.
In this case, the ex is probably pissed because he/she is trying to pick up the same girls as the him.
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TheMorningStar
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According to the article, she was preparing for the sex change while she was married to him. Talk about false pretences! If she felt the marriage was a mistake because she had a new desire to become a man, I could understand it. She lied about the hormone use which indicates to me she was hiding her transformation from her husband. What did she think was going to happen? "That's great honey, I always hoped you would become a man!". Divorce was this guy's only way out and now he is being fucked anyway.
He could have opted for divorce at any time yet did not until, according to the article, "years later"... well after he saw these changes occurring.
People divorce all the time because their spouse turned out to be not the "person they thought". Many times for things that should have been known prior to the marriage if all was a perfect world.
Uncaring gold diggers, closet drug addicts, abusers, undisclosed medical conditions or mental illness, superficial spouses who don't want a fat/aged/ill/disabled spouse, hidden homosexual tendencies, folks who cannot/will not be monogamous... you name it and it happens many times. It may or may not be fraud or right or fair.
My objection is to the fact that the ex wanted it overturned because he didn't like how he/she spent the money. It's none of his business. He knew (or should have known) at the time of the divorce what was going on. He/She was granted alimony at that time. If he didn't have the proof to show there was fraud or that the alimony was no longer viable/legal/needed (whatever) then he is SOL.
If a spouse thinks or can prove the marriage was fraud for whatever reason, they should get a divorce ASAP. Nowhere was it ever said that she married him for the alimony or that she intended the change this prior to the marriage (although I am sure she did). He/she may well have thought that marriage would change her outlook only to find it did not.
Take the controversial sex-reassignment out of the equation and it is no different than any of a multitude of pretenses that people get married/divorced for. Wether they engaged in fraud or changed after the marriage.
I DO NOT think he/she should be getting alimony BUT the court ordered it based on things not given in the article. We are not privy to that information or why the return to court did not overturn it. Alimony is hard to get in most areas without good cause. If Florida grants it for "just because" reasons, then the law should be changed. Until then, it is what it is.
