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Dakota

FORUM BITCH / Beloved Cunt
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Justice is not only served by death. A LWOP sentence suffices in most states. Is that any less justice? Do states without the DP not serve up justice??

All the Federal Court is doing by overturning the Death Sentence is sending it back to reexamine if he was a nut case. We don't execute cuckoos. If he's found sane, he will be resentenced to death. If not, he'll get LWOP.

The state of Idaho could also rule to put him to death. However, if he's found to be incompetent, they probably wouldn't do it. They don't execute cuckoos either.

I would like to see him dead. Why should any prison system have to put up with him? I doubt he adds much entertainment value for the guards and isn't allowed out of his room often. Maybe they can medicate him to sanity. But justice is served even if he's allowed to live and spend his days alone in a little cell.
 

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badfish76

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No state can execute a looney because it has been deemed to be against the 8th Amendment (cruel and unusual punishment) by the Supreme Court.

I just really need this fucker to die so I can feel better. It's Justice for most people to get LWOP, but like I said before this asshole just NEEDS killing, IMHO. What he did was beyond evil and I would rather live in a world where people like this don't exist or are not allowed to continue to anyway.
 

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Whisper

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Court Denies Joseph Edward Duncan's Appeal
The U.S. Supreme Court has refused to hear an appeal from a man who killed three members of an Idaho family so that he could kidnap their small children. The court decided that it would not consider the appeal of Joseph Edward Duncan III on whether or not he was competent when he decided to waive his appeal in his 2008 death penalty case.
The high court's decision returns the decision to the U.S. District Court which will conduct a hearing on the issue.

Duncan was sentenced to die for the kidnapping, torture and murder of 7-year-old Dylan Groene after he killed his mother, brother and mother's boyfriend in their home. He also abducted 8-year-old Shasta Groene.

During the sentencing phase of his trial, Duncan decided to represent himself in spite of being appointed three defense attorneys who were ordered to help him as he represented himself.

Retrospective Hearing Ordered

At the time, Duncan's attorneys objected to the plan because they believed he was not competent to represent himself. U.S. District Judge Edward Lodge had Duncan examined by a psychologist who found that Duncan was not delusional and was capable of representing himself.

But Judge Lodge did not hold a hearing on the issue. Last year, the 9th U.S. Court of Appeals ruled that the judge should have held a hearing before making a decision. [...]
The appeal affects only Duncan's death penalty, it does not affect any of his life sentences he received in state courts and in other federal cases.
http://crime.about.com/b/2012/03/30/court-denies-joseph-edward-duncans-appeal.htm?nl=1
 

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Jerri Blank

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Duncan returns to Idaho for federal hearing
BOISE, Idaho (AP) -- A man convicted of killing children in Idaho and California has returned to U.S. District Court in Boise to prepare for a review of part of his death penalty case.

Joseph Edward Duncan III was in court Thursday while U.S. District Judge Edward Lodge began the process of selecting an attorney to represent him in a competency hearing. An appellate court ordered the hearing last year after Duncan's former attorneys argued he wasn't competent to waive his appeals.

Duncan was sentenced to death for the 2005 murder of 9-year-old Dylan Groene. Prosecutors said Duncan snatched Dylan and his sister from their Coeur d'Alene home after killing three family members. Duncan also was convicted in California of killing a 10-year-old boy. He confessed, but wasn't charged, to killing two Washington girls.
http://www.kivitv.com/news/local/152068105.html
 

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Whisper

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Shasta's Dad Sues Over Donations

The father of two children who were kidnapped by registered sex offender Joseph Edward Duncan III in Idaho is suing his sister-in-law who set up a bank account for donations to benefit the two siblings. Steven Groene filed suit against Brandy M. Hoagland, the aunt of Shasta and Dylan Groene, who were kidnapped in May 2005.
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The case made national headlines and during the height of the media coverage, Hoagland set up a donation fund for the children. Hoagland is the sister of Brenda Groene who was killed along with her boyfriend, Mark McKenzie, and son, Slade, on the night Duncan abducted the children.

Misappropriated Funds?
The lawsuit claims that Hoagland has refused to account for the $48,000 donated by the public to the children's fund and has failed to use the fund for the children's best interest.

The lawsuit also claims that Hoagland paid some of the money to third parties who weren't entitled to be paid. When the "Shasta and Dylan Groene Fund" was established the children were listed as the beneficiaries.

Steven Groene's lawsuit also asks that Hoagland replace "all funds misappropriated or mismanaged by her."

Duncan Facing Execution
Duncan was sentenced to death in August 2008 by a federal judge for the murder of 9-year-old Dylan Groene. After abusing and torturing both children for several weeks, Duncan shot Dylan in the torso and head while 8-year-old Shasta watched.

Duncan received three life sentences in Idaho state court for the murders of Brenda, Mark and Slade. The Groene case investigation led authorities to charge Duncan with the 1997 death of 10-year-old Anthony Martinez in Beaumont, California. Duncan received two life terms in California for the Martinez murder.

Investigators said Duncan has also confessed to the murders of half-sisters Sammiejo White, 11, and Carmen Cubias, 9, in Seattle, Washington in 1996. He has not be charged in those cases.
http://crime.about.com/b/2012/06/15/shastas-dad-sues-over-donations.htm?nl=1
 

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ChaosKitty

Queen Bitch From Hell
personally, I think he should fry, don't buy the insanity plea in most cases and feel that it has no right to be used in most others. This pos was an animal that should have been under investigation and charged & imprisoned then killed some time ago
 

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JackBurton

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Why the fuck was this bumped? And with not update to anything? I dont feel like googling any element of this shit again cuz i always end up drawn to the stuff about the blog this asswipe kept where he writes as if hes some normal guy for a while, albeit one upset over some perceived unfair slight, and then descends into talk about demons and so forth getting the better of him. Oh and the transvestite postings too. And i dont feel like getting drawn into that circus sideshow trainwreck of a read right now.

It's like the guy checked every box on a stereotypical creepo sociopath serial killer list.
 

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Muriel Schwenck

polyracial ecosexual
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Poor Shasta. 3 years ago she was clean and looking forward to a fresh life. Fiance, pregnant, every cliche of the honeymoon period after rehab. She looked pleasant and healthy. Then became a meth skank endangering babies like many we see in the forum.

Apparently now, she has failed to show up for court ordered treatment but has a job and tested clean.
https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/crime/article212934354.html
24June2018

[...]
Thursday, Groene admitted she had not reported to the Department of Health and Welfare as required by the terms of her original unsupervised probation. However, her lawyer argued that Groene has made an effort to change, finding full-time employment and consistently producing clean drug tests.

Sullivan warned Groene against giving in to backsliding.

"It's one thing if you have a few missteps," he said. "If you're running, if you're hiding, if you're lying, that's what's going to get you in hot water."[...]
Hope she can keep herself together this time.
 
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knockout

The Californian
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oh man. holy shit. i got a 10th of the way through hellsbells link. why the fuck do they let murderers get off. children would be alive if not for their fucked up laws. who gives a fuck about a murderer, about his freedom. nobody should give a f.u.c.k. i swear this system is run by by murderers and child molesters. I cannot stress enough that I am not playing
Liberals, liberals, liberals they’ve never found a conviction, sentence or execution they couldn’t protest
 

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JackBurton

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Im curious if this new blog is him posting stuff thru prison granted internet access, or is this some pen pal situation where someone else is corresponding and then uploading it.

Poor Shasta. 3 years ago she was clean and looking forward to a fresh life. Fiance, pregnant, every cliche of the honeymoon period after rehab. She looked pleasant and healthy. Then became a meth skank endangering babies like many we see in the forum.

Apparently now, she has failed to show up for court ordered treatment but has a job and tested clean.
https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/crime/article212934354.html
24June2018


Hope she can keep herself together this time.
It's not difficult to pass a test for meth, not hard to cheat them, to circumvent a hair follicle.

Could be why shes refusing the court ordered treatment. Ive had enough experiences with these types to know not to trust em no matter how much they SAY they are staying on the right track all by themselves, in spite of their refusal to play by any established rules or program of a court.

Sad in this ones case.

And if this court ordered treatment coincides with a CPS program, she's not getting those kids back(which is def for the best).
 

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Sugar Cookie

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A federal judge has upheld two of three death penalties for a man convicted in a gruesome child kidnapping and murder case, and put a third death sentence on hold for now.


Joseph Edward Duncan III was sentenced to death after an incredibly violent crime spree in which he broke into a Coeur d'Alene, Idaho home and killed three people there before abducting an 8- and 9-year-old. He then took the kids deep into Montana's Lolo National Forest, where he tortured and raped them for weeks. He eventually killed the older child.

In Friday's ruling, U.S. District Judge Edward Lodge said Duncan had effective attorneys, that the evidence shown at trial wasn't unfairly prejudicial and that two of the three death sentences were appropriate.
 

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