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https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/crime-courts/2018/08/08/troopers-game-camera-captures-wasilla-men-shooting-bear-and-cubs-in-den/
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Andrew Renner, 41, and Owen Renner, 18, were charged this week with felony and misdemeanor charges stemming from the mid-April poaching incident on Esther Island in Prince William Sound, according to an Alaska State Troopers dispatch Wednesday.
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The bears were part of a U.S. Forest Service and Alaska Department of Fish and Game study, and the men's activity was captured by a motion-triggered game camera, troopers say. The sow was also collared.

A series of 30-second video clips from the camera provided investigators with evidence for their case, court documents show.

One clip shows both Renners skiing near the den on April 14 and then noticing the sow, according to charging documents filed in the case.

Owen Renner shoulders his rifle and fires at least two shots at her, according to sworn summary of an Alaska Wildlife Troopers report filed by Assistant District Attorney Aaron Peterson. "Cubs begin shrieking in the den after the initial shots are fired."

The men listen for several minutes before realizing the cubs are making the sounds, the document says. They move closer and Andrew Renner, just a feet away, takes aim through his rifle scope and fires several more shots, killing the newborn cubs.

"Andrew Renner is captured on video saying 'It doesn't matter. Bear down,' " Peterson wrote.

The pair drag the sow from the den and see the collar, the document says. Renner can be heard saying, "I'm gonna get rid of these guys" while tossing the carcasses of the cubs onto the snow outside the den.

He disappears with the cubs while his son waits at the den, the document says.

The next clip shows Owen Renner saying, "We got the collar off," and his father responding, "We're gonna skin it that way," pointing away from the den, the document states. The younger man agrees," saying, 'They'll never be able to link it to us.' "

They butchered the sow, put the meat in game bags and skied away, according to the summary.

The camera also captured the men returning to the den site two days later to retrieve the collar, pick up spent shell casings and discuss disposing of the bear cubs, the document says. One of the men says he's going into the den to "make sure there aren't any little parts."

They put the cub carcasses in a small transparent bag and skied away with them, the document says.

A U.S. Forest Service employee reported the deaths of the sow and cubs to Alaska Wildlife Troopers on April 23. That's when troopers recovered the camera.
The sow was one of 20 fitted with collars for a three-year study that started in 2016, according to Fish and Game. The study by the department and Chugach National Forest came in response to concerns about declining numbers of black bears in Prince William Sound.
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On April 30, Andrew Renner brought the sow bear skin and collar to Fish and Game in Palmer and said he'd killed it near Granite Bay, troopers said. He also said that, while he realized after shooting it the sow had teats, he didn't see any sign of cubs. He is also accused of falsifying the document by saying he shot the bear when his son was seen doing it, and not describing the kill as an "illegal take."

Investigators seized a boat, vehicle and hunting rifles, troopers said.

Misdemeanor charges against the men include unlawful take of a female bear with cubs, unlawful take of bear cubs, and the possession and transportation of illegally taken game.

Andrew Renner was charged with tampering with physical evidence, a felony, as well as contributing to the delinquency of a minor — his son was 17 at the time — and unsworn falsification.
 

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knockout

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Wasn’t sure where to put this
Hope they throw the book at these assholes
Feel sorry for the son, he had a terrible parent, now he’ll pay for a bad upbringing

Troopers: Game camera captures father and son shooting bear and ‘shrieking’ cubs in den
PALMER — A father and son from the Matanuska Valley are accused of illegally shooting a sow black bear and its two newborn cubs in a den, then trying to cover up their actions without realizing a game camera was running the whole time.
Andrew Renner, 41, and Owen Renner, 18, were charged this week with felony and misdemeanor charges stemming from the mid-April poaching incident on Esther Island in Prince William Sound, according to an Alaska State Troopers dispatch Wednesday.
The charges were filed Monday in Anchorage District Court, records show.
An attorney for Andrew Renner said he hadn't seen the charges and couldn't comment.
The bears were part of a U.S. Forest Service and Alaska Department of Fish and Game study, and the men's activity was captured by a motion-triggered game camera, troopers say. The sow was also collared.
A series of 30-second video clips from the camera provided investigators with evidence for their case, court documents show.
One clip shows both Renners skiing near the den on April 14 and then noticing the sow, according to charging documents filed in the case.
Owen Renner shoulders his rifle and fires at least two shots at her, according to sworn summary of an Alaska Wildlife Troopers report filed by Assistant District Attorney Aaron Peterson. "Cubs begin shrieking in the den after the initial shots are fired."
The men listen for several minutes before realizing the cubs are making the sounds, the document says. They move closer and Andrew Renner, just a feet away, takes aim through his rifle scope and fires several more shots, killing the newborn cubs.
Andrew Renner is captured on video saying 'It doesn't matter. Bear down,' " Peterson wrote.
The pair drag the sow from the den and see the collar, the document says. Renner can be heard saying, "I'm gonna get rid of these guys" while tossing the carcasses of the cubs onto the snow outside the den.
He disappears with the cubs while his son waits at the den, the document says.
The next clip shows Owen Renner saying, "We got the collar off," and his father responding, "We're gonna skin it that way," pointing away from the den, the document states. The younger man agrees," saying, 'They'll never be able to link it to us.' "
They butchered the sow, put the meat in game bags and skied away, according to the summary.
The camera also captured the men returning to the den site two days later to retrieve the collar, pick up spent shell casings and discuss disposing of the bear cubs, the document says. One of the men says he's going into the den to "make sure there aren't any little parts."
They put the cub carcasses in a small transparent bag and skied away with them, the document says.

A U.S. Forest Service employee reported the deaths of the sow and cubs to Alaska Wildlife Troopers on April 23. That's when troopers recovered the camera.
The sow was one of 20 fitted with collars for a three-year study that started in 2016, according to Fish and Game. The study by the department and Chugach National Forest came in response to concerns about declining numbers of black bears in Prince William Sound.
There is a legal, registration permit black bear hunt for the area from September into June.
On April 30, Andrew Renner brought the sow bear skin and collar to Fish and Game in Palmer and said he'd killed it near Granite Bay, troopers said. He also said that, while he realized after shooting it the sow had teats, he didn't see any sign of cubs. He is also accused of falsifying the document by saying he shot the bear when his son was seen doing it, and not describing the kill as an "illegal take."
Investigators seized a boat, vehicle and hunting rifles, troopers said.
Misdemeanor charges against the men include unlawful take of a female bear with cubs, unlawful take of bear cubs, and the possession and transportation of illegally taken game.
Andrew Renner was charged with tampering with physical evidence, a felony, as well as contributing to the delinquency of a minor — his son was 17 at the time — and unsworn falsification.
https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/crime-courts/2018/08/08/troopers-game-camera-captures-wasilla-men-shooting-bear-and-cubs-in-den/
 

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roadsidehorror

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Alaska doesn't fuck around when it comes to the land or wildlife. I hope they drop the book on them, from the top of a mountain.
 

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JackBurton

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Alaskans are trashy fucking people. Palin and her family have proven that beyond any shadow of a doubt. If that's how wealthy, uppity Alskans are, i cant imagine how awful and trashy the rest of those stains are up there.
 

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An Alaska man and his son have been sentenced to jail time after they slaughtered a mother black bear and her two cubs in their den in a vicious act unknowingly caught on a research camera.

Andrew Renner, 41, was sentenced to three months in jail and his son Owen Renner, 18, was sentenced to 30 days of suspended time on Tuesday for the April 14, 2018 killings.

The father and son had skied to the remote bear's den on Esther Island in Prince William Sound in the Gulf of Alaska when they attacked the mother bear in front of her two cubs.

Then the father turned his rifle on the crying newborns.

They didn't realize that a motion-activated camera was set up outside the den as a part of a study by the U.S. Forest Service and the Alaska Department of Fish and Game and the entire attack was filmed.

The two pleaded guilty to multiple misdemeanor counts including killing the bears, which is illegal.

'My office believes and argued for active jail time in this case because of the egregious nature of it, and the necessity of letting the public know Alaska will not tolerate poaching,' assistant attorney general Aaron Peterson said on Wednesday, noting that jail time is rare for wildlife cases.

'What we saw is that there were two bear cubs that were completely defenseless and were shot at point-blank range,' he added, according to Anchorage Daily News.

In addition to jail time Andrew was ordered to pay a $9,000 fine, forfeit his pickup truck, boat, trailer, weapons, skies and cell phones and had his hunting license revoked for 10 years.

His son Owen had his hunting license suspended for two years and he was ordered to take a hunters' safety course.

In the research video the men are seen approaching the den and spotting the female bear, according to court documents.

Owen is seen firing at least two shots, causing the cubs to shriek.

After the female bear was killed the two men realized the sounds were coming from the cubs, not the dead mother, leading Andrew Renner to shoot them too.

Andrew is heard saying: 'It doesn't matter. Bear down'.

But then the two notice the mother bear sporting a Fish and Game collar on her neck, meaning the creature is being monitored by Alaska's wildlife officials.

Then they dragged the bear's carcass into the snow outside the den and in a second video clip Owen says the collar was removed, adding 'they'll never be able to link it to us'.

Then they butchered the mother bear and placed the remains in game bags and skied away.

Video also showed the pair returning two days later to retrieve the collar, shell casings, and place the cubs' bodies in a bag then skiing away.

Two weeks later on April 30, Andrew Renner brought the adult bear's skin and tracking collar to officials at Alaska's Department of Fish and Game, according to KTLA.

He said he realized only after the shooting that the creature was a nursing bear and claimed he didn't see any cubs.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6625181/Alaska-man-son-sentenced-bear-killings-case.html
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JackBurton

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Shocked the penalty is this slight. I have heard from countless folks that ALaska does NOT fuck around with poaching and really any hunting or wildlife transgressions.

Was this Native land or something? Would explain why the govt didnt give a shit.

Only a 10 grand fine and 10 years with no hunting license access seems very slight.
 

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ChaosKitty

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They did confiscate vehicle, boat and weapons
Which will probably be sold at auction or used by the department. I’m assuming fines and Possibly a little jail time, cameras always seem to maximize the punishment
nope they apparently got everything back and slap on their hands slapped pos i guess I posted all this on dod
 

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knockout

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nope they apparently got everything back and slap on their hands slapped pos i guess I posted all this on dod
In addition to jail time Andrew was ordered to pay a $9,000 fine, forfeit his pickup truck, boat, trailer, weapons, skies and cell phones and had his hunting license revoked for 10 years.
 

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spiff

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I wish they'd revoked his gun permit in general, not just a hunting permit. That would make it quite illegal if he got caught again. A person who knowingly covers something up like this isn't likely to stop hunting just cause the courts say so.

Three months jail time is pretty solid for killing animals though, that just about never happens.

Edit: Apparently gun licenses don't exist in Alaska. Wish they'd given him a lifetime ban on owning guns then.
 
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knockout

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I wish they'd revoked his gun permit in general, not just a hunting permit. That would make it quite illegal if he got caught again. A person who knowingly covers something up like this isn't likely to stop hunting just cause the courts say so.

Three months jail time is pretty solid for killing animals though, that just about never happens.

Edit: Apparently gun licenses don't exist in Alaska. Wish they'd given him a lifetime ban on owning guns then.
You don’t need registration or permit to own rifles in the USA, in California which is one of the more restrictive you only need to register pistols (handguns)
 

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