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Sugar Cookie

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A Muslim inmate who filed a legal challenge because Alabama wouldn't let his Islamic spiritual adviser be present in the execution chamber was put to death Thursday after the nation's highest court cleared the way.

Dominique Ray, 42, was pronounced dead at 10:12 p.m. of a lethal injection at the state prison in Atmore.

Ray had argued Alabama's execution procedure favors Christian inmates because a Christian chaplain employed by the prison typically remains in the execution chamber during a lethal injection, but the state would not let his imam be there in the room.

Attorneys for the state said only prison employees are allowed in the chamber for security reasons.

Ray's imam, Yusef Maisonet, watched the execution from an adjoining witness room, after visiting with Ray over the past two days. There was no Christian chaplain in the chamber, a concession the state agreed to make.

Strapped to a gurney in the death chamber, Ray was asked by the warden if he had any final words. The inmate said an Islamic statement of his faith in Arabic.

Ray was sentenced to death for the 1995 rape and murder of a 15-year-old girl. Tiffany Harville disappeared from her Selma home on July 15, 1995, and her decomposing body was found one month later in a cotton field.

It was Alabama's first execution of the year.

Ray was convicted in 1999 after another man, Marcus Owden, confessed to his role in the crime and implicated Ray.

Owden told police that they had picked the girl up for a night out on the town and then raped her.

Owden said that Ray cut the girl's throat. Owden pleaded guilty to murder, testified against Ray and is serving a life sentence without parole.

A jury recommended the death penalty for Ray by an 11-1 vote.
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Craygor

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Well, that fucked-up religion says nothing happens unless their Allah wills it, so I guess his weak, little sky-daddy willed that he wouldn't have a pedophile imam at his earthly execution. I suggest cumstain takes it up with the management after he is rapes and kills his 72 virgins.
 

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lithiumgirl

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Well, that fucked-up religion says nothing happens unless their Allah wills it, so I guess his weak, little sky-daddy willed that he wouldn't have a pedophile imam at his earthly execution. I suggest cumstain takes it up with the management after he is rapes and kills his 72 virgins.
Well to be fair ... God/Allah ... Hebrew God ... sky daddy or what ever you want to call him /her ... wills everything. And this man isn't getting any virgins ... why would he ... its not like he walked with God.
 

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CentreAussie

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Well to be fair ... God/Allah ... Hebrew God ... sky daddy or what ever you want to call him /her ... wills everything. And this man isn't getting any virgins ... why would he ... its not like he walked with God.
Not quite. Christians believe god gave us free will and judges us on our choices. Muslims believe that the will of god supersedes the will of man, and that man will be judged by his adherence to the will of god.
 

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lithiumgirl

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Not quite. Christians believe god gave us free will and judges us on our choices. Muslims believe that the will of god supersedes the will of man, and that man will be judged by his adherence to the will of god.
and the difference is ... Nothing. In both instances God has an expectation.
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That's what those monotheist believes, it appears.
I believe in Co-exist because they're all a little bit right ...and none of them are completely wrong. Same way I think the libertines... the socialists ... and the communist are all little bit right ... they all have aspects that work ... its too bad no one had mashed them all together and called it co-operation.
 
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Craygor

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I believe in Co-exist because they're all a little bit right
The monotheist by definition can not co-exist with polytheist (or atheist, for that matter). That doesn't mean that monotheistic individuals can't tolerant or accept non-monotheist, but a belief system that states there is only a single all-powerful entity has zero room for any other ideas, to do so would invalidate that belief. Polytheist, on the other hand, can accept other deities, even those not their own, because it doesn't invalidate their core idea. A polytheist can accept that another person's belief in a entirely different set of gods not their own does exist, though they might have different values of what their gods want from them or whose gods are "better".

A polytheist acceptance of other people's polytheistic views is so non-threaten that war by a polytheistic people base on religion alone is extremely rare. That not to say when polytheistic people go to war they won't fight with religious fervor, they just won't to go war because a different group of people have a different god/s. Only monotheistic religions have the dubious distinction to seek out and destroy other religions, either through apostatizing or violence. Any other belief is a danger to monotheist's core idea of a single omniscient being, to allow another belief system is a danger to it.
 

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lithiumgirl

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@Craygor ... I'm not debating this, there is always going to be the argument as to whether God or the Devil exist, so I just leave them out it because good and evil do and that's good enough for me. I believe in God, and I believe in live and let live ... we're all a little bit right.
 

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