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CentreAussie

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If he’s truly innocent, why cherry pick evidence? The confession just sits too heavy on me. He says he thought it’d help his wife get the other baby back if he admitted to anally raping and strangling his infant daughter (?). The wife happened to immediately divorce him and has no contact with him. I think there’s other evidence out there.

He might be guilty, who knows at this point. All I'm saying is that the reports presented on the website don't support a typical violent rape/murder scenario. Yes, it does seem as if the evidence was cherry-picked but it also seems pretty definitive. Having said that, I'm not a doctor. I have however been around enough to know that confessions of guilt are not always true. Some people just break and end up telling the cops what they want to hear, just to make it all stop.

He wasn’t questioned 20 hours straight-that’s just what the family wants you to think. Other reports say that 20 hours included him sleeping and eating in between.
Both could kinda be true. Maybe they feed him once and let him have 15 minutes of sleep. I never sadi that I thought that he is innocent, just that it seems possible. I hope he gets a fair trial and if he's convicted, they should just put one in the back of his head then and there.

I remember reading about a bunch of cases, I think it was in the UK, where the death of several babies was attributed to Shaken Baby Syndrome erroneously. It led to to jailing of many innocent parents. But more heart-breakingly it led to families wrongly having surviving children taken from them. Then after the parents were cleared, in some cases the court ordered the children to remain with their adoptive families because it was judged any further disruption to their lives would not be in the best interests of the children.

That doesn't really have a whole lot to do with this case, but it did teach me not to jump the gun and presume guilt where there is a question of guilt, as tempting as that might be.
 

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CentreAussie

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I totally get what you’re saying Aussie and agree he may very well be innocent, but an obviously biased website ran by the family is not going to sway me. Now a Netflix documentary on the other hand ...
The website might well be biased, it is to my view. But the excerpts from the reports are undisputed as far as I can tell. They are abridged, but as I said before they seem to be definitive. Like I said, read them and make up your own mind, but if you are saying that you won't even to do that, under the assumption that the particular information presented is merit-less due to the publisher then you need to have a more open mind.

Based on everything that has been forwarded to this point, I'd say that there is a great chance that this guy murdered this baby. But I can't believe that he raped her and then violently strangled her. That scenario doesn't fit the evidence. By that I mean the evidence from the coroner and the forensic pathologist.
 

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Brillig

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I agree with @CentreAussie on this one. I assumed he was guilty until I read the reports, which seem to have zero evidence of any kind of rape. As to the murder, the baby was found by mom with a cord wrapped around her hand and neck. It was the hand part that made me pause. Since the cord was hanging where it could be reached from the crib, it seems possible the baby could have reached for it and tangled herself up.

Looking at the many pics of the accused and his babies and wife, he seems really into them and very happy. In the pics, it sure looks like he loves his babies.

Unless there is more evidence they aren't sharing yet, it doesn't seem like a compelling case to me.
 

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The website might well be biased, it is to my view. But the excerpts from the reports are undisputed as far as I can tell. They are abridged, but as I said before they seem to be definitive. Like I said, read them and make up your own mind, but if you are saying that you won't even to do that, under the assumption that the particular information presented is merit-less due to the publisher then you need to have a more open mind.

Based on everything that has been forwarded to this point, I'd say that there is a great chance that this guy murdered this baby. But I can't believe that he raped her and then violently strangled her. That scenario doesn't fit the evidence. By that I mean the evidence from the coroner and the forensic pathologist.
Well said

I pilfered around the website, specifically that medical xaminers report. Def seems legit. I dont know what other details could have been in it and excluded by the family that could prove damning when it comes to the rape stuff.

Seems like the onlyconcrete thing authorities really have is that confession.
 

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Just because the prosecution isn’t presenting its case on a website does not mean they have nothing but the confession. If so it’ll make for a very short trial.
 

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CentreAussie

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Well said

I pilfered around the website, specifically that medical xaminers report. Def seems legit. I dont know what other details could have been in it and excluded by the family that could prove damning when it comes to the rape stuff.

Seems like the onlyconcrete thing authorities really have is that confession.
This is why I like you, Jack.

We clash and disagree often, we even sling insults at each other, but when we do agree (as rare as that is) you'll back me up. It shows you have conviction and integrity. There are plenty here who don't.
 

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JackBurton

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Just because the prosecution isn’t presenting its case on a website does not mean they have nothing but the confession. If so it’ll make for a very short trial.
What else could they have though?

Unless the medical examiners report excerpts provided on the suspects support website are totally falsified, or there is a seperate report with vastly different findings, I dont know what else they could have to support the sexual assault charge. There's no witnesses to the crime. It's just the confession, the doctors belief or whoever made the initial report/finding that a rape occurred, and the medical examiners report of the body which very much seem to counter any claims of rape.
 

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GoneWest

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What else could they have though?

I seriously don’t know and his family may very well be right that there was no sexual assault. I’ve read of a few cases where originally the report says sexual assault and later those charges are dropped as unfounded. But the prosecutor says he has a strong case so I’m going to go with that until I see proof presented in a court of law not on a family created website. (I did visit the site and read information posted)
I would truly love to find out the charges are bogus for the baby’s sake, but what motive would the prosecutor have to pursue it if there’s no evidence to support them?
 

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Josie Introvert

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The guy might be innocent. I'm no expert but the forensic report and autopsy report don't seem to fit the prosecution narrative. Go read them for yourself.
I agree. There have been many confessions that have been falsely obtained through duress. From everything I've read it seems the baby could have gotten tangled up in something in the nursery. I'm not saying he's innocent but there is a possibility. I pray that he didn't do that to his infant daughter and receives a fair trial. People can have tunnel vision when it comes to certain cases.
 

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ChaosKitty

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because it is Ala and because inbred families there will make elaborate excuses for the worse scum imaginable I am not buying his innocence stance now, there was more left out than the sugarcoated version presented by his families site. Maybe he didn't molest her but can see him strangling her with a cord because he was mad over something,, once again, I feel sorry for the twin baby and her growing up like this and that is my only concern in this case. he wasn't grilled for 2o hours and was treated with kid gloves imo
 

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