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The family of Terri Schiavo has joined the battle over Jahi McMath, a 13-year-old girl on life support who has been declared dead by doctors.
The only thing those 2 had in common was eating disorders. I really don't mean to speak bad of the dead but Terri went into a coma because she had an eating disorder. and little Jahi also had (by the looks of it) trouble managing her weight. I don't know what the agenda is for these people anymore. They are blaming everyone for Jahi's misfortune.

When my 2nd child was a year old he had to have surgery for his udescended testicle, I read all of those consents on what COULD go wrong, and even though I was scared I knew they were not coming down on their own. Sleep apnea can be controlled by weight loss, and while I do not blame mom that things went wrong, I think SOME responsibility has to be taken here and the circus needs to leave town and reality needs to set in.

Here is the grandma adding to the circus
The grandmother of a 13-year-old girl at the center of a battle to turn off her life-support machine said she is devastated because the last words spoken to the terrified teenager were hers, saying everything would be OK.

Sandra Chatman, a nurse, said she held Jahi McMath’s hand as she suffered complications following a routine tonsil operation and reassured her that the doctors knew what they were doing.

But just minutes later Jahi’s heart stopped and caused so much brain damage that those same doctors now want to turn off the ventilator that keeps her alive.

Mrs Chatman, who works at a different hospital to where her granddaughter is being treated, said that the memory had left her distraught and destroyed the trust she had in the medical profession.

'She was so frightened,' a visibly moved Mrs Chatman said from her home just a few miles from where Jahi remained in intensive care at Children’s Hospital in Oakland, California.

'I was with her [when] the complications began, when the blood started to come out of her mouth. I was the one holding her hand and reassuring her that everything was going to be OK.'

'She said ‘'Grandma this hurt so bad" and I said everything would work out and it hasn’t.

'That is the devastating part. I feel so bad because Jahi was so scared. I feel so bad because I think Jahi, the sweetest girl in the world, suffered so badly.'

She said that it was only when she noticed that Jahi’s vital signs were slipping away and she shouted across the intensive care unit that any proper action was taken.

By then it was too late for a crash team to resuscitate her in time to stop devastating brain damage – damage so severe that the hospital wants to turn off her life support machine because it claims there is no chance of her recovering.

Mrs Chatman, who along with Jahi’s other relatives are fighting the move because they believe she can still recover, said the treatment by the hospital had destroyed her faith in the medical profession.

'I really trusted the doctors,' she said. 'I held her hand and said so. I am a nurse. I reassure and encourage people every day. That’s my job. I’ll never be able to reassure anyone ever again.'

She said that she had been appalled by the behavior of the doctors at the hospital who she alleges have been 'heartless' in their treatment of the family.

She said a few days after her daughter’s complications the hospital told them the only option was to contact the coroner.

But when the family asked for a second opinion, she claims the hospital’s Chief of Pediatrics Dr David Durand was brutal in his reply.

'We asked for a second opinion and Dr David Durand came in and said "What don’t you understand? She is dead, dead, dead".'

'I couldn’t believe how heartless they were. If that happened in my hospital I would be so upset and embarrassed.

'That is when we got an attorney involved. Now all we want is to be free of Children’s Hospital so that we can take her to a hospital that will care for her.

'We want to be able to say that we tried everything we could for her. We are not crazy people looking for a miracle.

'I am a nurse. I do believe the body has an amazing ability to heal itself. But these doctors are used to playing God and they are not used to people questioning their opinion.'

Mrs Chatman’s comments came as the hospital and family remain in legal stalemate, each accusing the other of misinformation.

The relatives' attorney Chris Dolan claims that the hospital is blocking their attempts to transfer Jahi to another facility, while hospital spokesman Sam Singer said that the family had not fulfilled any statutory requirements for the move.

All that is known is that arrangements have to be made before a court injunction runs out at 5pm next Tuesday or the hospital can switch off the life support machine.

The wrangling has left Mrs Chatman emotionally exhausted.

'All my tears have gone because I have cried so much,' she said. 'I am just in defense mode now. We have to take it day by day. We are a normal family. People don’t die early in our family.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2532210/I-told-OK-Grandmother-devastated-final-words-teenager-moments-routine-tonsil-operation-left-life-support.html
 

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TeeJay

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"Families and individuals must make themselves aware of what so-called 'brain death' is and what it is not," he said.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/01/health/jahi-mcmath-girl-brain-dead/index.html




She said that she had been appalled by the behavior of the doctors at the hospital who she alleges have been 'heartless' in their treatment of the family.

'I couldn’t believe how heartless they were. If that happened in my hospital I would be so upset and embarrassed.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2532210/I-told-OK-Grandmother-devastated-final-words-teenager-moments-routine-tonsil-operation-left-life-support.html
She's a nurse and has never heard a doctor be "heartless" or rude?

I call shenanigans.
 

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China

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She's a nurse and has never heard a doctor be "heartless" or rude?

I call shenanigans.
Exactly, that's why i say she's adding to the circus. Doctors are not known for their bedside manner, (most of them anyways) I have worked with doctors for the better part of 14 years and I know 2 that are not rude...ever
 

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Nell

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Dolan said he has been talking with the New Beginnings Community Center in Medford, N.Y., an outpatient clinic for people with traumatic brain injuries, and with an unnamed facility in Arizona.
An outpatient clinic? Where are they going to keep her then?
 

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Teleute

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A lawyer for Children's Hospital Oakland said that it is unwilling to allow an outside doctor to fit Jahi McMath with the breathing and feeding tubes that the family has requested.
Good for them!

The family of Terri Schiavo has joined the battle over Jahi McMath, a 13-year-old girl on life support who has been declared dead by doctors.
How wonderful. I'm guessing her mother must have written, directed, and possibly even co-starred in the video the Momma Winkfield & Co keep blathering on about? Who wants to take a wager that it'll feature a Mickey Mouse balloon?

Family attorney Christopher Dolan had accused the hospital of being "hell bent" on ending Jahi's life.
At this point, I'd not be surprised if they were "hell bent" on ending Jahi's mother's life.

The statement Wednesday about Jahi included a quote from Bobby Schindler, Terri Schiavo's brother and executive director of the organization.
"Families and individuals must make themselves aware of what so-called 'brain death' is and what it is not," he said.
...has anyone bothered to make this guy aware of what a so-called 'persistent vegetative state' is and what it is not?

Omari Sealey, Jahi's uncle, said Wednesday that the family still hopes to move her to another facility.

He accused the hospital of starving his niece by not using a feeding tube to provide her with nutrients.
Feed her a ding dong, man. I'm sure Mom will be able to help you out if you need a little spare change. She's more than doubled her money with the judge's latest ruling.
 

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myra manes

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The family of Terri Schiavo has joined the battle over Jahi McMath, a 13-year-old girl on life support who has been declared dead by doctors.
The circus continues ..
 

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Teleute

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The only thing those 2 had in common was eating disorders.
And the fact that their families were fucking vultures, looking to further their own agendas -- ideological, financial, vengeful, whatever -- by exploiting the deaths of their daughters.

This woman is not fit to empty the garbage receptacles in the hospital cafeteria, let alone work as a registered nurse. I hope her employers are watching this unfold very, very carefully.

An outpatient clinic? Where are they going to keep her then?
They're in the process of building an inpatient facility called the Brendan House. Phase one of construction is already underway,and they've just finished adding the windows!!! Exciting, isn't it? But they're still in need of additional funding so they can finish the project.:wait:
 

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TeeJay

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And the fact that their families were fucking vultures, looking to further their own agendas -- ideological, financial, vengeful, whatever -- by exploiting the deaths of their daughters.



This woman is not fit to empty the garbage receptacles in the hospital cafeteria, let alone work as a registered nurse. I hope her employers are watching this unfold very, very carefully.



They're in the process of building an inpatient facility called the Brendan House. Phase one of construction is already underway,and they've just finished adding the windows!!! Exciting, isn't it? But they're still in need of additional funding so they can finish the project.:wait:

I have been wondering what the gma's employer has been up to. What their thoughts are. She will never find another job because a simple google search will bring her up. I'm not even a good googler and I bet I could find her!

I read somewhere that the outpatient facility was going to house her and her mom until the LTC facility is completed. Estimated completion date 2014.

Did I read that here? I've been reading so many sites I'm getting confused on what I've read where. :p
 

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China

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I have been wondering what the gma's employer has been up to. What their thoughts are. She will never find another job because a simple google search will bring her up. I'm not even a good googler and I bet I could find her!

I read somewhere that the outpatient facility was going to house her and her mom until the LTC facility is completed. Estimated completion date 2014.

Did I read that here? I've been reading so many sites I'm getting confused on what I've read where. :p
'I really trusted the doctors,' she said. 'I held her hand and said so. I am a nurse. I reassure and encourage people every day. That’s my job. I’ll never be able to reassure anyone ever again.'
this seals her future employment
 

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Sudonim

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The more I read on this the more it irks me and the more blame I place on the mother. They keep referring to it as a 'routine' tonsillectomy when it wasn't. Although according to recent studies 80% of tonsillectomies are done to treat sleep apnea, it remains an elective surgery and she had more then just a tonsillectomy.

The risk of death for a tonsillectomy alone would keep me from subjecting my child to it unless essential. 1 in 15,000 people die, this isn't as rare or uncommon as people want you to believe, rare or uncommon would be your chance to win the lotto. 1 in 15,000..the odds are pretty good you or your loved one could very well die. Being obese doubles your chances of dying..so that knocks her down to a 1 in 7,500 of dying..those are not odds I'd be willing to bet against especially for something that might or might not work and is only a quick fix for the real problem..her weight.
 

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Krystal

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Both of my younger sons had to have their tonsils and adenoids removed. While yes it was elective in a way it wasn't too. My middle son had massive tonsils and adenoids and for the two years prior to his surgery he couldn't breath out of his nose, not even once in his life, they obstructed the passages. He came through the surgery like a champ, he was 2 when it was done and he is my "Peanut" to give you an idea of what size he is, no exactly an overweight issue with that child.

My youngest son would cough so bad that he would vomit and this went on for about 3 years with no relief from anything the doctor's tried. He had bad allergies and asthma from his lungs being damaged as a baby and he nearly died from RSV. Finally our doctor suggested the surgery and I agreed to it. Keep in mind this poor child would have these coughing jags every night for 2 weeks at a time and no one was getting a good night's sleep, and if you heard my son cough it would hurt you, it's so deep and sounds so painful. He came through the surgery very well too, he is the biggest of my sons, nicknamed "Chunk" but his weight comes from his solid build not obesity, he is very muscular with broad shoulders, and honestly isn't overweight in any way by the medical standards he's just a tank! He had the surgery about 8 months ago and other than when he was exposed to RSV again and got it, he hasn't done the cough-vomit combo since May.

Yes, U\ultimately I had to agree to the surgeries because they were elective, I think in my boys' cases it was not only the best choice but also the only choice that we had to "fix" them.
 

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Krystal

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But was the doctor clear on it being elective?
The way it was put to me was that it wasn't medically necessary but probably the only thing that would help my boys. My boys were in a different situation, they had medical issues that really had no other fix, with my youngest we had tried just about everything else, and neither of mine have weight problems or sleep apnea. While the surgeries were not necessary in the sense that they couldn't live without them, my boys had medical issues that couldn't be solved any other way, with my middle son I knew that at about a year old and held off on the surgery until he was 2, my youngest, I spent years with doctors trying everything, antibiotics, inhalers, nebs, even cough syrups full of narcotics, I couldn't in good conscience drug him anymore, I was afraid he would end up like his drug-addict mother.
 

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Sudonim

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While the surgeries were not necessary in the sense that they couldn't live without them, my boys had medical issues that couldn't be solved any other way
To me your situation is different then this one. I also think that there's elective but medically necessary and elective and not necessary. You did it because you had no other options and this was a way to fix what was wrong. Personally I think this family had other options.

It's not even proven that tonsillectomies are helpful to those with sleep apnea. There's only been one clinical trial studying the use of tonsillectomies to treat sleep apnea...one.

Tonsillectomies fell out of favor in the 1980s, but the procedure has become more common again to treat a new diagnosis — sleep apnea, a breathing disorder — but not without controversy. And the surgery is sure to attract renewed scrutiny because of 13-year-old Jahi McMath of Oakland, Calif., who suffered sudden bleeding from her nose and mouth and cardiac arrest after a Dec. 9 surgery intended to help with her sleeping problem.

[...]

Even before this case, the resurrection of tonsil removal surgery has spurred debate in the medical world. While some medical experts say the procedure is the most effective treatment for pediatric sleep apnea, others say there is a dearth of studies confirming that. One pediatrician has called the jump in procedures an “epidemic” and a “national embarrassment.”

David Goodman, professor of pediatrics at Dartmouth’s medical school, is a leading critic of tonsillectomies and points to Jahi’s case as an illustration of the problem.

“What gives me concern is she’s a 13-year-old child, and that’s an example of the population we know virtually nothing about (concerning) the value of the procedure,” Goodman said. “It doesn’t mean it’s not valuable, but we know nothing about it.”

There’s been only one randomized clinical trial studying the use of tonsillectomies in treating sleep disorders, but Goodman said it looked only at children ages 5 to 9.

“I would describe it as a national embarrassment that with over a half-century of having tonsillectomies often used, it’s irrational that we still don’t have high-quality evidence that children benefit from the procedure,” he said.

[...]

Goodman called the surgery spike a “unique American phenomenon,” and not a good one.

“It’s worth noting there are virtually no tonsillectomies done for sleep apnea in England,” he said.

“The quality of diagnoses are generally poor and we know little about the benefits, but it’s the most common procedure under general anesthesia in the United States for kids — that’s not a good combination,” he said. “It gained traction at a high level without any good evidence that it’s helpful.”

The academy released a second set of guidelines in 2011 directing physicians to refer patients to pre-tonsillectomy sleep studies in certain cases, including for obese children. Goodman goes further in his recommendations for tonsil surgeries for sleep apnea patients.

“It should only be done in patients who’ve had a formal sleep study,” he said.

The report found that only about 10 percent of children received such a sleep study before surgery, largely due to cost, accessibility and varied interpretations of results. Jahi’s uncle said she received a sleep study in advance of her surgery.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/questions-about-tonsillectomies-to-treat-sleep-apnea-after-a-child-falls-critically-ill/2013/12/24/8fb8f710-6cb3-11e3-aecc-85cb037b7236_story.html

I think a lot of the things doctors come up with to treat patients are bi-products of how entitled and sue happy we've become along with society's acceptance for being unhealthy. Doctors used to tell you your kid was fat and to put them on a diet, now days it's not correct or nice to call a kid fat, and you're likely to lose your job and/or be sued for doing it, so they have to come up with other ways of fixing the problems obesity causes. The truth hurts but sometimes it's necessary. Being fat is unhealthy, being obese is deadly. With so many over weight children I think they need to say fuck feelings and go back to telling it like it is. While we don't need to be rail thin we also need to stop the next generation from believing that obesity is acceptable.
 

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Azryhael

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My tonsils were taken out at age 21 due to a history of repeated, severe throat infections. Not a life-saving procedure by any means, but I was so sick so often that it was worth it to me. My circumstances and choices were a night-and-day difference from Jahi's.
 

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TeeJay

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@Krystal @Azryhael I also had my tonsils removed for other reasons other than sleep apnea. I was 5 years old and a petite little thing. I had constant infections and couldn't breathe. It was also back in the day (1981) when insurance wasn't expecting recovery to occur curbside. I was in the hospital for a week and I didn't have any complications.

I should ask my parents what it was like with insurance back then. We were pretty poor (but not poor enough for state assistance) so I can't see my parents paying for an elective surgery. My older brother also had the surgery at the same time as me and mom was 8 months pregnant.

We must have had excellent insurance for both of us kids to have the surgery at the same time and our parents preparing for another baby just a month away.
 

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Teleute

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Background info on the family:

Grandma reportedly works for Kaiser Permanente, thought I've yet to find anything to indicate what she actually does. Some articles say she's simply a nurse, some specify an RN, while others describe her as a "veteran nurse."

I stumbled across Mom's photobucket last night. It's pretty heartbreaking to see a substantially-younger Jahi looking like a normal, happy child:
http://s227.photobucket.com/user/QUEENNAILAH/media/jahi.jpg.html

Until recently, Mom's name was Latasha Spears, though she went by Nailah. Apart from the recent court documents, there doesn't seem to be any public record of a Latasha Winkfield. And I just have to say, it gets a little confusing when neither Mom, Dad, Stepdad, Grandma, nor Uncle have the same friggin' last name.

Also, here's something I find highly interesting... Jahi's father (Milton McMath) once sued the City of Oakland and the Oakland Police Department for excessive use of force during an arrest. No word on how much he and his co-plaintiff sued for, but they ended up accepting the settlement proposed by the city council in the amount of $50,000:

The attorney who'd represented them, John Burris, is evidently supporting the family:
Rev. Dr. Harold Mayberry, senior pastor of First African Methodist Episcopal Church and Pastor Gerald Agee, senior pastor of Friendship Christian Center and president of the Pastors of Oakland, called a press conference last Sunday on behalf of Oakland’s clergy community to show their support for Jahi’s family.

Attorney John Burris and Oakland City Councilwoman Desley Brooks also attended the press conference.

http://postnewsgroup.com/blog/2013/12/27/jahi-mcmath-declared-brain-dead-family-still-fighting
I'm curious as to just how involved this guy actually is, seeing that he's a fairly prominent civil rights attorney.

Also, for those of you who've been concerned that Chris Dolan (the family's attorney) may be manipulating them, you have Uncle Omari Sealey's word that:
He also describes Dolan as his "Brother from another Mother."
I'd have to describe Uncle Omar as a real asshole, if only because he keeps releasing the doctors' direct phone lines onto social media and instructing everyone to call. This is a Children's Hospital, damn it -- not some congressman's office!
 

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Teleute

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The risk of death for a tonsillectomy alone would keep me from subjecting my child to it unless essential. 1 in 15,000 people die, this isn't as rare or uncommon as people want you to believe, rare or uncommon would be your chance to win the lotto. 1 in 15,000..the odds are pretty good you or your loved one could very well die. Being obese doubles your chances of dying..so that knocks her down to a 1 in 7,500 of dying..those are not odds I'd be willing to bet against especially for something that might or might not work and is only a quick fix for the real problem..her weight.
Also, uvulopalatopharyngoplasties are known to be virtually ineffective for obese patients:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23294274
 

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Krystal

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To me your situation is different then this one. I also think that there's elective but medically necessary and elective and not necessary. You did it because you had no other options and this was a way to fix what was wrong. Personally I think this family had other options.
I completely agree. I think this family should have looked into diet and exercise for this girl first, sometimes that can help sleep apnea, if it didn't it would certainly have been helpful for her in the long run. But people aren't into that, they want a quick fix, immediate results. I do understand some, the last year before my youngest had surgery was HELL with all the coughing and puking and more than anything I just wanted something to work and being patient until we figured it out sucked ass but rushing into the operating suite is equally hellish as this family has found out the hard way. The girl could have gone to a nutritionist, exercised and used a CPAP machine at night, seems like it could've been worth a shot. My ex-SIL has used a CPAP fr years and years with no problems whatsoever.
 

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Dakota

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A federal judge on Thursday ordered settlement talks between lawyers for a California hospital and a 13-year-old California girl declared brain dead after tonsil surgery.

A federal magistrate will oversee the mandatory talks on Friday between representatives of Children's Hospital Oakland and the family of Jahi McMath, U.S. District Judge Saundra Brown said. Settlement conferences are usually scheduled to expedite court cases or to end them without a trial.
[...]

"At this point, Jahi has not had nutrition for nearly three weeks. She is in desperate need of a tracheostomy tube and a gastric tube," Winkfield's lawyer, Christopher Dolan, wrote in a motion filed with Judge Brown on Thursday. "The defendant has responded that ... they will not allow such a procedure to be done and will not write discharge instructions that instruct a physician to carry out such orders."

Although another federal judge, Chief U.S. District Judge Claudia Wilkens, already has refused to order the hospital to insert the requested gastric and tracheostomy tubes, the dispute over the procedures is likely to figure prominently in Friday's talks.

The hospital's lawyer, Douglas Straus, has said doctors have no legal obligation to operate on the body of a dead person, but that the matter remains irrelevant for now because the family has not named a doctor who is willing to put in the tubes or a facility capable of caring for Jahi.

The issue also is being considered by the state judge who so far has blocked Children's Hospital from removing Jahi's ventilator. Alameda County Superior Court Evelio Grillo has scheduled a hearing for Friday morning so he can speak with the opposing sides about how to handle that part of the case.
http://www.sacbee.com/2014/01/02/6042178/talks-ordered-in-california-brain.html
 

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WannaBeMaybe

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But, but, but....if they insert a gastric tube, to feed her......where will it all go?? Can they mechanically remove waste??

Gosh - sounds like I'm poop obsessed, hey!! I'm not, honestly. Just having a hard time wrapping my head around feeding something that's dead!!
 

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TeeJay

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But, but, but....if they insert a gastric tube, to feed her......where will it all go?? Can they mechanically remove waste??

Gosh - sounds like I'm poop obsessed, hey!! I'm not, honestly. Just having a hard time wrapping my head around feeding something that's dead!!
They can have a butthole catheter.

We used a bag similar to this. The ring is a sticky and it goes around the butthole and it tapers down into a tube. I honestly cannot remember what they are called. I tried to find a pic of what I am talking about, but I couldn't.




I don't know that either is for LTC use, though.
 

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Rockin Ma

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My friend posted today first that her son and dad were on their way to get his tonsil removed then later that they were done and on their way home.
 

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stefania

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Little Debbie Cakes?



Keep in mind that this is California, and we're looking at the potential violation of the constitutional rights of an undead minor. I think the court is simply trying to be progressive.



I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the whole, "I'm just so happy that she is kind of a thick girl so she still looks good... I tell her every day, 'Jahi, you losin' weight girl, but you still look good.'" Does this epsilon-minus semi-moron seriously not grasp the full extent of the damage she caused that girl? Forget the question of whether or not she slipped her a post-op treat; I'm talking about morbid obesity in a child and choosing surgery over a change in lifestyle -- surgery which, besides being incredibly risky on account of the girl's weight -- is known to be virtually ineffective for obese patients.
Actually I wouldn't eat at all until after my tonsillectomy. I was a real skinny-bilink. Not only did my appetite improve, my overall health did as well.
 

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GirouxFilms

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POSTED 1 HOUR AGO…

Jahi McMath's mom clear to take her from hospital

A judge said Friday that the mother of a 13-year-old girl who was declared brain dead after tonsil surgery can remove her daughter from a California hospital if she assumes full responsibility for the consequences.

Alameda County Superior Court Judge Evelio Grillo said Jahi McMath can be transferred under a deal with Children's Hospital Oakland that will hold Nailah Winkfield accountable for developments that could include Jahi going into cardiac arrest.
[...]

Judge Grillo rejected he family's move to have the hospital insert the tubes, noting the girl could be moved with the ventilator she is now using.

The family's attorney, Christopher Dolan, called the agreement a big step in resolving the dispute.

"This is a victory because we will now not run into any roadblocks with the hospital when we make the efforts to do this," Dolan said. "Time is of the essence."

It was unclear when the girl might be moved and a transfer could depend on the outcome of a separate hearing on Friday before U.S. Magistrate Donna Ryu involving the dispute.
[...]

Thus far, the family has not found a doctor who is willing to insert the tubes, but relatives said they may have found a facility in New York that's willing to care for the girl.

Hospital lawyer Douglas Straus told reporters after Friday's state court hearing that he hopes the family will soon conclude the girl has passed away.

"It's horrible that this child has died. It's also horrible that it's so difficult for her family to accept that death," said Straus, choking up. "I constantly think that wouldn't it be great if they were able to come to terms with the terrible tragic event and that I didn't have to stand in front of you all time after time."
http://news.yahoo.com/jahi-mcmath-39-mom-clear-her-hospital-205936510.html
 
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Dakota

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On Friday, the Alameda County Coroner issued a death certificate stating that Jahi died on Dec. 12, three days after doctors at Children's performed a tonsillectomy that led to complications.

But the family, who believes that Jahi is alive because her heart continues to beat while she's on a ventilator, was making arrangements to move the girl out of the hospital and into a care facility.
[...]

Christopher Dolan, attorney for Jahi's family, said the agreement removes the barriers the family had faced in taking the girl out of the hospital. The hospital had said it would allow the girl to be transferred to another facility but had not heard from any such facility.

Now, under the agreement, the hospital will allow workers to enter its premises and remove Jahi without contact from a facility that would receive her.

Dolan said he would not discuss details about where or when Jahi will be moved but said that a doctor would perform any necessary surgical procedures at an undisclosed facility.

"Right now, arrangements are being made, and what we needed to know is that when all of the balls are in line, that we could move quickly, and not have any impediments," Dolan said outside court. "So this is a victory in terms of getting us one step closer."
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Hospital-agrees-to-let-Jahi-McMath-family-take-5111584.php
 

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Teleute

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This family needs to give this girl some dignity and acknowledge her death, already ..
This family has no dignity.

Look, I get why the judge decided this (I think) -- to save the hospital from dealing with this bullshit and hopefully make the family go away. But is the fact that the American judicial system does not exist in a vacuum completely lost on this guy? Every decision he makes has some future consequences. Not only is he setting up ALL hospitals in California (and possibly other states) to deal with future families unable or unwilling to accept when someone's life comes to an end (their intentions being a moot point), he is violating laws he was entrusted to protect. A superior court judge's first duty (the "prime directive," so to speak) is to interpret and uphold the law -- not to disregard it as he sees fit.


Remember how Mom's GoFundMe takings doubled within 24 hours of this guy granting her an extension? Just imagine how much more she is going to rake in now, on top of all the local fundraising she's managed to do, the sum of which has yet to be released.

Now, under the agreement, the hospital will allow workers to enter its premises and remove Jahi without contact from a facility that would receive her.
Dolan said he would not discuss details about where or when Jahi will be moved but said that a doctor would perform any necessary surgical procedures at an undisclosed facility.
In other words, the judge gave everyone the okay to look the other way while a three-week-old corpse is ushered out of the hospital and onto god only knows where? And what's supposed to happen to the equipment it's hooked up to? Does the family just get to keep it?

I suppose it could be worse. The judge could have forced the hospital to perform the surgeries. But what I don't understand is how these people can get away with continuing to lie to the judge about having a place to take the body. The facility is still under construction!
 

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