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Sue sue

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I think serial killers have been around since the birth of the human species. The History channel will be doing a series on H.H. Holmes and his killer castle. There will be investigations into the possibility that he was also Jack the Ripper.

http://www.history.com/shows/american-ripper
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"I was born with the devil in me. I could not help the fact that I was a murderer, no more than the poet can help the inspiration to sing — I was born with the 'Evil One' standing as my sponsor beside the bed where I was ushered into the world, and he has been with me since."

– H. H. Holmes[25][26]
 

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In sense, isnt this just an old fashioned way of claiming mental illness.

"I was born with the devil in me. I could not help the fact that I was a murderer, no more than the poet can help the inspiration to sing — I was born with the 'Evil One' standing as my sponsor beside the bed where I was ushered into the world, and he has been with me since."

– H. H. Holmes[25][26]
 

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Victoria

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HH Holmes Murder Castle Jigsaw Puzzle

I first read about HH Holmes in my teens when I devoured all things written on serial killers. As a young girl living in between Eastern Michigan and the University of Michigan we had our very own serial killer on the loose, John Norman Collins. Thus began my fascination.

HH Holmes attended the University of Michigan Medical School in Ann Arbor where he would steal cadavers from the morgue.

The enterprising young man would then disfigure the corpses and plant them in places where it would look as though they had been killed in accidents. Conveniently, Holmes had already taken out insurance policies on these "family members" and he would collect on them as soon as the bodies were discovered.


[doublepost=1504324528,1498797742][/doublepost]... and in a new twist

Tests confirm gravesite of 1800s serial killer H.H. Holmes
September 1, 2017, 5:49 PM



PHILADELPHIA -- Tests show that the remains in a suburban Philadelphia grave are indeed those of a 19th century serial killer, quelling rumors that he'd conned his way out of execution and escaped from prison.

A judge approved the exhumation of Dr. H.H. Holmes' grave earlier this year. Descendants requested it for a series called "American Ripper" on the History Channel. Part of the show looked at whether Holmes escaped, and scientists' findings were revealed in this week's final episode.

Holmes, the pseudonym of New Hampshire-born physician Herman Webster Mudgett, is believed to have killed an undetermined number people at his hotel of horrors during the 1893 Chicago World's Fair. It featured a bizarre labyrinth of windowless rooms, secret passageways, false floors, trapdoors and a vault. Most of the rooms had gas vents that were controlled from Mudgett's bedroom. Many of the rooms were soundproof and could only be locked from the outside.

But it was the murder of his business partner in Philadelphia that led to his conviction and hanging in 1896.

Holmes had left specific instructions for his burial. He was to be laid in a pine box and the box was then filled with cement, buried 10 feet in the ground and covered again with cement.

University of Pennsylvania anthropologist Samantha Cox, who did the forensic science on the exhumed remains, tells the NewsWorks online site that because of his unique burial requests, Holmes' body had not properly decomposed.

She said his clothes were almost perfectly preserved and his moustache was intact on his skull. But the corpse had decayed.

"It stank," Cox told the news site. "Once it gets to that point we can't do anything with it. We can't test it, can't get any DNA out of it."

Holmes' teeth were used to identify him, she said.

WCAU-TV reports the remains were re-interred at Holy Cross Cemetery in Yeadon.

Holmes' teeth were used to identify him, she said.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tests-confirm-gravesite-of-1800s-serial-killer-h-h-holmes/

Leonardo DiCaprio as HH Holmes in Scorsese film that also is due to be released.
 
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Sue sue

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HH Holmes Murder Castle Jigsaw Puzzle

I first read about HH Holmes in my teens when I devoured all things written on serial killers. As a young girl living in between Eastern Michigan and the University of Michigan we had our very own serial killer on the loose, John Norman Collins. Thus began my fascination.

HH Holmes attended the University of Michigan Medical School in Ann Arbor where he would steal cadavers from the morgue.

The enterprising young man would then disfigure the corpses and plant them in places where it would look as though they had been killed in accidents. Conveniently, Holmes had already taken out insurance policies on these "family members" and he would collect on them as soon as the bodies were discovered.


[doublepost=1504324528,1498797742][/doublepost]... and in a new twist

Tests confirm gravesite of 1800s serial killer H.H. Holmes
September 1, 2017, 5:49 PM



PHILADELPHIA -- Tests show that the remains in a suburban Philadelphia grave are indeed those of a 19th century serial killer, quelling rumors that he'd conned his way out of execution and escaped from prison.

A judge approved the exhumation of Dr. H.H. Holmes' grave earlier this year. Descendants requested it for a series called "American Ripper" on the History Channel. Part of the show looked at whether Holmes escaped, and scientists' findings were revealed in this week's final episode.

Holmes, the pseudonym of New Hampshire-born physician Herman Webster Mudgett, is believed to have killed an undetermined number people at his hotel of horrors during the 1893 Chicago World's Fair. It featured a bizarre labyrinth of windowless rooms, secret passageways, false floors, trapdoors and a vault. Most of the rooms had gas vents that were controlled from Mudgett's bedroom. Many of the rooms were soundproof and could only be locked from the outside.

But it was the murder of his business partner in Philadelphia that led to his conviction and hanging in 1896.

Holmes had left specific instructions for his burial. He was to be laid in a pine box and the box was then filled with cement, buried 10 feet in the ground and covered again with cement.

University of Pennsylvania anthropologist Samantha Cox, who did the forensic science on the exhumed remains, tells the NewsWorks online site that because of his unique burial requests, Holmes' body had not properly decomposed.

She said his clothes were almost perfectly preserved and his moustache was intact on his skull. But the corpse had decayed.

"It stank," Cox told the news site. "Once it gets to that point we can't do anything with it. We can't test it, can't get any DNA out of it."

Holmes' teeth were used to identify him, she said.

WCAU-TV reports the remains were re-interred at Holy Cross Cemetery in Yeadon.

Holmes' teeth were used to identify him, she said.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tests-confirm-gravesite-of-1800s-serial-killer-h-h-holmes/

Leonardo DiCaprio as HH Holmes in Scorsese film that also is due to be released.
Leonardo is not scary enough to play Holmes.
 

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Victoria

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Over the years I've done some extensive reading on Jack the Ripper and the Whitechapel investigation and the investigators.

After viewing the first two episodes of American Ripper it seems readily apparent that at the very least the Mudgett descendent and his ex operative female chum went to London predisposed to linking Mudgett, aka HH Holmes to Jack the Ripper.

On to episode three but at this point I'm very skeptical. I don't know, perhaps I'm predisposed to not finding a link between Mudgett/Holmes and ole Jackie boy.
 

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