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And obviously he thinks he too smart for the regular people, going along with her to keep her safe, who is going to believe that, only him it seems.

Cubby, you are severely misinformed if you believe it is possible for a 50 year old man to keep a 15 year old girl safe without Cialis, KY jelly, and copious amounts of shagging!
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my "eeeeewwwwwwwssss's" have "eeeeeeeeewwwwwwwsss"

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Tenn. teen found with teacher was abused by mother, court documents say

COLUMBIA, Tenn. -- A 15-year-old Tennessee girl who authorities say was kidnapped by her teacher had endured months of abuse at the hands of her mother, according to court documents, making her particularly vulnerable to an adult predator.

Elizabeth Thomas’ mother is scheduled to appear in court next month and has pleaded not guilty to five counts of abuse and neglect involving several of her children. Thomas’ father filed for divorce Monday, citing the alleged abuse. Thomas was found safe last week with the teacher, Tad Cummins, at a cabin in a remote part of Northern California.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/tenness...ins-was-abused-by-mother-court-documents-say/
 
For some reason a lot, and I mean A LOT, of the comments I read on the news articles posted at news sites, are predominantly blaming Elizabeth for this, and the ones not exactly blaming her are saying she had a choice and she chose to go with Tad, so therefore it's not kidnapping.

How can they think that, sure she chose to go, but he is an adult in authority and he most likely made it seem it was her only choice, to allow him to "protect" her from her abusive family.

Sometimes I really don't understand.
 
No teen girl in her right mind would go with this troll, daddy figure or not. I knew there had to be something at home that she was getting away from. It certainly was not her fault.
 
How did these two manage to "make feel weird" a hippy commune?
Because hippy clothing optional communes are still pretty normal people. Most of them are grossed out by old dudes banging young girls (and a young girl on a joyful honeymoon with an old dude) just like the rest of us.
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Yeah because a young pretty 15 year old really wants to hump on an old, wrinkly, fat, gray haired man who cannot keep it up. Poor thing. She probably did want love, protection and care. Unfortunately for her, that came with a price and that price was the tip of his nasty old dick.
It seems she was having a great honeymoon while it lasted. I won't shoehorn her into a pathetic groomed victim narrative until I hear her side of it. We don't know what she thinks, just what everyone else says about it. They say she's having panic attacks back home. Because she's a rescued victim in recovery or because her beloved is in trouble and because she believes they are cruelly separated?
She didn't break any laws (except those of common sense) by running away with him.
He's supposed to be the older , wiser, protective one. He could have waited until she's legal. If it's true love, it can wait. A teen girl can feed off romance for a long time.
Once she was of legal age, he could grab the Cialis and go for it. But no matter what, people are going freak.

@SpQa my "eeeeewwwwwwwssss's" have "eeeeeeeeewwwwwwwsss"
Double Awesome! So agree.
 
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Griffin Barry will receive the $10,000 reward for helping capture Tad Cummins. He seems like a really great guy, I'm glad he is receiving the reward. He gave them money and paid to put gas in their car after hearing their sob story, even telling them to come back if things didn't work out at the commune and he would feed them and give them a place to stay.

A Good Samaritan will receive a $10,000 reward after he helped police capture a 50-year-old teacher who went on the run with a teenage girl he is accused of kidnapping.

Griffin Barry, 29, let Tad Cummins and Elizabeth Thomas stay in an unfinished cabin near Cecilville, California, in exchange for work after the 50-year-old fabricated a story claiming he lost everything he owned in a fire.

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They passed themselves off as John and Joanna, and Barry didn't realize they were on the run until a neighbor showed him a picture of the girl's missing person poster.

Barry, who called the police and helped the SWAT team capture Cummins last Thursday, will receive his reward on Friday, according to Thomas' family attorney S. Jason Whatley.

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The couple, claiming to be 38 and 24 years old, had run out of gas and Cummins told a sad story about how they lost all of their possessions in a house fire in Colorado and didn't have any money left.

So Barry decided to be a Good Samaritan, and gave Cummins money, gas and directions to the commune.

'I put some gas in his car and gave him $40 dollars and said if it doesn’t work come back I’ll feed you, you know what I mean?' Barry, 29, told WKRN.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ve-10k-reward-help-capturing-Tad-Cummins.html
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/elizabeth-thomas-ate-wildflowers-survive-181002701.html

Friday marks one week since Elizabeth Thomas was reunited with her family after her alleged abduction at the hands of former teacher Tad Cummins.

Now, as the 15-year-old receives counseling and Cummins, 50, sits in jail awaiting extradition, details are emerging on her experience when she was missing for 38 days.

Elizabeth and Cummins were allegedly in Northern California for a week and a half, authorities believe, spending a few days and nights in Berkley and Black Bear Ranch Commune before ending up in a cabin in rural Cecilville, more than 2,000 miles from Tennessee.

Family attorney Jason Whatley says the cabin could be described as a four-walled shelter without running water or electricity or heat piping. Elizabeth and Cummins at times ate wildflowers to survive, which led to Elizabeth losing a significant amount of weight.

Among some personal possessions found in the cabin were toilet paper, food items and a beer bottle, Siskiyou County Sheriff Jon Lopey previously told PEOPLE.

The lack of food showed, Whatley says. When he met Elizabeth last week, she was physically and emotionally “fragile.”

“I was so shocked when I saw her first,” Whatley says. “I didn’t know it but she was even smaller than she was used to be being. She [had] lost a lot [of weight].”

Whatley also says the teen also appeared to not have shower or bathed the entire time she was gone, asking to take a shower as soon as she was rescued.

Griffin Barry, the caretaker of the cabin who called authorities when he recognized the pair from the ongoing AMBER Alert they were the subject of, says he gave the couple food in exchange for manual labor around the property.

According to Barry, Cummins passed himself and Elizabeth off as a couple named “John” and “Joanna” and said Elizabeth was 24. Whatley says Cummins would do most of the talking, with Elizabeth whispering in his ear. Barry tells PEOPLE he only heard Elizabeth speak once.

“One time I had given him food that night and [she] was like, Thank you,’ ” Barry recalls about giving Elizabeth rice and clementines. “She got excited over some food.”

Whatley says that Cummins “treated her like a child at times. I think most people would agree that the combination of treating her like a child and an adult woman in the same relationship, like a light switched [and] turned it on and off, [is] damaging.”

Before settling at the remote cabin Whatley say Cummins brought Elizabeth to Black Bear Ranch, a clothing-optional commune. Whatley says Elizabeth was for a few days was in the presence of nude men before they pair headed to Cecilville, where they met Barry.

According to the commune’s website, Elizabeth and Cummins were “asked to leave” by residents after a few days.

“Residents had no access to national news and had no idea who this couple was, [their] ages or their history in relation to the charges that have now surfaced,” a statement reads.

The statement adds that the commune “does not condone the acts that Tad Cummins has been charged with.”

Whatley says when she reunited with her family, Elizabeth was “quiet,” but he says it was obvious the weeks allegedly with Cummins had taken an emotional toll.

“She’s had moments of being carefree and fun, but [at the same time] she’s very, very fragile and that’s something the family is watching very carefully.”

On Monday, Cummins’ public defender, Benjamin Galloway, issued a statement defending his client, claiming he has “no history of violence and no criminal history whatsoever,” and that he didn’t coerce, force or threaten Elizabeth, Cummins’ former student at the Culleoka Unit School in Maury County, Tennessee.

Cummins - who authorities said faces kidnapping and sex crime charges in California and Tennessee as well as a federal charge - “surrendered without incident and has been cooperative with investigators,” Galloway said. “He looks forward to returning to Tennessee as soon as possible to answer the charges against him.”

Whatley says any suggestion that Elizabeth might have gone willingly is “amazingly absurd.”

“This is classic grooming and manipulation,” he adds. “And I predict this case will be studied years in the future about how authority figures like Tad Cummins can mess up young children who believe their lies and are manipulated into doing things they would never do.”

Cummins appeared in federal court in Sacramento, California, on Monday afternoon. He faces one federal count of transporting a minor with the intent to engage in sexual activity across state lines.

He has not entered a plea and was detained as a flight risk.

He will be transported to Tennessee “as soon as possible,” a U.S. Attorney’s Office spokeswoman said.
 
Yeah because a young pretty 15 year old really wants to hump on an old, wrinkly, fat, gray haired man who cannot keep it up. Poor thing.

Didn't you see her facebook ... that's exactly what she wanted !
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She asked him if he slept with her ... what an idiot?

She said she took some calls from him ?

I didn't sound like this ... Tad Cummings ? Sorry I don't know that person ... CLICK!

Morons everywhere .. tad, this wife, the parents and Elisabeth ...all of them ...stupid.
 
She said she took some calls from him ?

I didn't sound like this ... Tad Cummings ? Sorry I don't know that person ... CLICK!

She said she took one call from him, and he continued to call her many times but she doesn't answer the phone. I think she just wanted the chance to get her rage off her chest and then wipe her hands of him.

“He kept saying, I love you,’ and I said, I’m sorry, but I’m not going to say that back,’ ” Jill recalled.

“I, of course, went into a rage: Do you know what you’ve done to me? Do you know what you’ve done to your girls and your grandchildren?’ He pretty much just over and over said, I’m sorry.’ ”

Jill said he continued to call her “many times” from jail. “I just don’t answer the phone,” she said.

“I won’t let him hurt me like that again. I will not let him betray me like that again. I won’t give him the opportunity, ever again.”
 
But but but, it's not Taddy Baby's fault, so must be that teen temptress.....gag
Did you see how that strumpet was standing by her locker wearing that plaid flannel shirt and baggy jeans, sashshaying around in her Old Navy backpack with her retainer in? I hate that putrid fuck and his limp dick.
 
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While I don't blame the victim, I do think that predators choose their victims because of traits that they exhibit. Typically they don't go for outgoing, they go for quiet and reserved types. This isn't always parenting, but can be in some cases.
 
I apologize in advance since this is a tragic story all around, but the visual just cracked me up:

The mother also smacked a child in the head for injecting herself with her brother’s EpiPen.
 
But but but, it's not Taddy Baby's fault, so must be that teen temptress.....gag


I know right ...but lot's of women think like this. Some Mom's will catch their husbands in the act of molestation and spend the rest of their lives hating their daughters for it. Sad but true.
 
20/20 is on right now and it is about Tad Cummins. Darn it I missed the beginning. I will have to catch the whole thing later online. It is good so far, some stuff I hadn't heard before!
[doublepost=1494040179,1494037305][/doublepost]They interviewed his daughters who are standing behind him. Hahaha the undercover secret agent, Jason Bourne doppleganger rented a room at Motel 6 (the honeymoon suite? No charge for the splooge covered bedspread) using his own name and identification. Now talking with Griffen Barry, I love him! Elizabeth had to eat flowers for food.
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/agent-teacher-said-had-sex-students-most-nights-210033267.html

A federal judge on Friday ordered a Tennessee schoolteacher accused of kidnapping a 15-year-old student held until trial, saying he is a flight risk and a danger to the community.

That decision came after an FBI agent testified that the teacher Tad Cummins told authorities he had sex with the girl most nights during the 38 days he was on the run with her.

The 50-year-old married teacher, who is a father and grandfather, said the sexual relationship with the girl began the first night after they disappeared March 13, FBI Agent Utley Noble said during testimony at a detention hearing in a federal court in Nashville.

Federal prosecutors had argued that Cummins was a flight risk and a danger because he took advantage of a vulnerable girl and traveled with her across the country to have sex.

U.S. Magistrate Judge Barbara Holmes agreed.

"Here the evidence of danger is substantial," Holmes said. She said Cummins had abused his position of authority as a teacher and she noted all the ways he tried to evade police. That included, testimony showed, disabling his GPS on his vehicle, switching out license plates, and Cummins and the girl throwing their cellphones in the Tennessee River near Decatur, Alabama, so they wouldn't be tracked.

They decided to call themselves John and Joanne Castro and tell people that they were married, and he was 40 and she 24, the FBI agent testified. In the days before he left with the girl, Noble said, Cummins had actually looked up teen marriage and age of consent on the internet.

Testimony at the detention and preliminary hearing showed that Cummins spent $1,500 on a two-seat kayak, and he and the student used it to try to get to Mexico. They tried to kayak from San Diego to Mexico, but the waters were too treacherous, Noble said, decided it was too risky going into Mexico on foot. Cummins decided to use the name Castro because it was a Hispanic name and he thought they would be better off portraying themselves as having that heritage if they were going south of the border.

Cummins, a respiratory therapist by training, was a mentor to students at the Culleoka Unit School and kids would often go to him with their problems, the FBI agent said. Culleoka is a community about 60 miles (97 kilometers) south of Nashville near the Alabama line. He would tell students that he had been in the FBI, the CIA and the military and "had the ability to get lost," Noble said.

The female student had been a victim of bullying at school, as well as physical and verbal abuse at home and she was afraid for her safety at both home and school, Noble testified. The girl, he said, thought of Cummins as a mentor she could turn to.

A lawyer for Cummins repeatedly asked the FBI agent if there was any evidence that the girl was held against her will at any time on the trip from Columbia, Tennessee, to California. The agent said there was no evidence.

Cummins is facing a federal charge of crossing state lines to have sex with a minor and faces a minimum sentence of 10 years and up to life in prison if he is convicted. He also faces state charges of aggravated kidnapping and sexual contact with a minor.
 
A lawyer for Cummins repeatedly asked the FBI agent if there was any evidence that the girl was held against her will at any time on the trip from Columbia, Tennessee, to California. The agent said there was no evidence.

Because she went willingly ... good luck living that down MOM and DAD ... your daughter hated her life with BOTH of YOu so much she ran away with this guy. She wanted to be the woman this man left his marriage for ... YES she did ... He loves me .. and only me!
 
Does his sister really believe his nonsense? Fine, love him because he is still your brother, but don't be an idiot. He said they screwed like monkeys while they were on the run, does that sound like a protective older role model who just wanted to make sure she was "safe"?
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The sister of the former Tennessee teacher accused of kidnapping his teen student says her brother told her he did so because the teen wanted to run away, and he didn’t want her to go alone.

Tad Cummins, 50, was captured last week after allegedly spending more than five weeks on the run with 15-year-old Elizabeth Thomas, his student at the Culleoka Unit School in Maury County, Tennessee. But Cummins’ sister says that according to Cummins, the idea to run away was initially Elizabeth’s.

“I asked him why, why would he do this and the answer he gave me is that she wanted to run away and she wanted to leave,” Daphne Quinn told NBC News in an interview that aired Monday on the Today show. “And he didn’t want her to go alone, and so he went with her so that he could know that she was safe.”

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Elizabeth was reunited with her family over the weekend, and her father, Anthony, told ABC News that her mood fluctuates.

“Sometimes she’ll be happy and laughing and back to the same old girl. And then she’ll be sometimes just in a fetal position crying,” he said, noting that Elizabeth had appeared to have lost some weight. “It’s been a rollercoaster for her.”


http://people.com/crime/tad-cummins-wanted-run-away-elizabeth-thomas/
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A former teacher and his student, who vanished from middle Tennessee in March and sparked a 39-day hunt for the 15-year-old girl, planned to paddle to Mexico from Coronado Island in San Diego, CNN reported.

Tad Cummins and his student, missing since March 13, threw their phones in the Tennessee River, switched licenses plates and disabled their car's GPS device to avoid detection, an FBI agent said. The fugitives were found 1,900 miles away from their Tennessee homes on April 20 at a remote cabin in the northern California town of Cecilville, WRCB reported.

Cummins also bought a tablet to keep up with news on their disappearance, along with a two-person kayak worth $1,500, Noble said. After paddling to Mexico, Cummins and the teen were going to use aliases of a married couple — John and Joanne Castro — so they could blend into the population, Noble said.

They also allegedly switched license plate tags from Tennessee to Alabama, then from Alabama to Colorado, CNN reported.

So that's where all his money went, laptops and kayaks! Jesus god this guy is such a dillweed.

He did all that tricky sooper spy stuff but then registered at a hotel using his real name and ID. Genius, that one.

Yeah, by washing up on shore in a kayak (or perhaps dead) and giving themselves a Mexican last name they will 'blend' right into the population.:rolleyes:

http://www.whio.com/news/crime--law/fbi-teacher-teen-planned-paddle-mexico/8bZR9tSfxS7lwwTrc5RvBP/
 
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The sister of the former Tennessee teacher accused of kidnapping his teen student says her brother told her he did so because the teen wanted to run away, and he didn’t want her to go alone.

Right ... so it's all Elizabeth's fault ... ever so typical.
 
Wow, I can't believe he's going to trial this soon. This is how it should always be instead of waiting around for months or years.


With only two weeks left before the trial of Tad Cummins starts, the family of the teenager who was abducted and sexually abused by her teacher are now preparing themselves for the highly emotional moment. In a recent interview, Elizabeth Thomas' father Anthony said that the court proceedings would be very difficult for them considering what his daughter had been through for a long time in Cummins' hands.

In his interview with People magazine, Anthony explained that the trial was a very sensitive issue for their family but it was just something that they could not get away from.

"It's a highly emotional issue," he told the publication. He later on added: "We've spoken many times as a family. [Going to court] is just something we're going to have to go through."

Cummins was incarcerated in California but was brought back to Tennessee. He was charged with abducting Elizabeth when she was only 15 and taking her across state lines to have sex with her. For more than a month, the high school teacher tried to evade arrest by moving from one state to another, hiding in remote areas and even changing his own appearance.

During the time that Cummins was with Elizabeth, the teacher allegedly was intimate with her. After more than a month of trying to escape the police, they were found in a remote cabin somewhere in Siskiyou County in California through the help of a tipster. For 38 days, their illicit romance has been the talk of the town while the authorities have searched for them everywhere.

As of now, it remains unknown if Elizabeth will be appearing in court to testify against Cummins. It is said she is currently undergoing therapy after going through psychological trauma because of her experience.

Cummins' trial is set to start on July 25.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/t...res-for-impending-hearing-on-the-25th-191177/
 
"... Anthony said that the court proceedings would be very difficult for them considering what his daughter had been through for a long time in Cummins' hands .... the trial was a very sensitive issue for their family but it was just something that they could not get away from ... It's a highly emotional issue ... We've spoken many times as a family. [Going to court] is just something we're going to have to go through."

but earlier the FBI said " ... [Elizabeth] had been a victim of bullying at school, as well as physical and verbal abuse at home and she was afraid for her safety at both home and school... "

So, what the hell? The girl ran off with the old fucker because she was physically and psychologically abused at home, only to turn her right back to her parents when their creepy romantic getaway came to an abrupt halt. I wonder what kind of shit she had to deal with at 'home' since she came back?
 
From Fox but basically covering it same as ibtimes. I'd say maybe that therapy wasn't nearly long enough.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/2...ted-by-her-teacher-says-doesnt-regret-it.html
The 15-year-old girl who became the center of a nationwide manhunt after she vanished -- allegedly abducted by her 50-year-old teacher -- has opened up about the case, saying: “I don’t regret it, nor do I say it was the right thing to do.”
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Speaking at a fast-food restaurant in Columbia, Tenn. on Saturday, Thomas told The Daily Herald that “there’s been a lot of rumors about me I’d like to clear up.”

Thomas said she was in therapy after she returned home, but said it was for “way too long,” adding she “should not have been up there.”
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Now living with her brother, Thomas said she “can’t really complain right now” about her life — she’s being homeschooled until she finishes high school in two years, and she’s babysitting, and working in Columbia.

“It was an experience I’ll have to live with the rest of my life,” Thomas said of her time on the run. “It’s good and bad. It’s there. No matter what we do, we’ll have to deal with it.”
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Elizabeth Thomas might still be struggling with conflicted feelings about the high school teacher who allegedly abducted her, a psychologist who survived child sex abuse tells PEOPLE.
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According to psychologist and author Dr. Michelle Stevens, sexual crime victims often are ambivalent about their abusers. Elizabeth, she says, might feel a range of emotions toward suspect Tad Cummins, 51.

“Kids who are abused often are very attached to their abusers,” says Stevens. “On one hand, [Elizabeth] objectively understands the she was [allegedly] kidnapped by this man, but because she was [allegedly] ‘groomed,’ her feelings are telling her that maybe this guy still loves her.”

Adds Stevens, “She is probably still very much struggling with feelings of guilt, not only for what she did to her family but also what’s happening to him.”
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“Anyone who goes through something traumatic, tries [to] sort of forget about it. They try to as quickly as possible get back to normal life and forget it ever happened,” Stevens says.
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Stevens says Elizabeth’s removing herself from public school could help her feel more in control of her destiny — something she lost when she was allegedly “groomed” by Cummins. In the interview with the Daily Herald, Elizabeth said she hopes to attend college and study to become a medical examiner.

“She should try to do whatever it is to do what she wants to do to move on with her life, without denying the fact that this is going to affect her,” Stevens says.
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Everyone else is analyzing her to bits and decreeing how she should or should not feel. She doesn't feel what they want from her.
Since she seems to find it all a grand romantic adventure, I'm not going to worry about her. I think she'll get over it in her own way and time.
 
https://www.tennessean.com/story/ne...-after-trying-talk-alleged-victim/1058979001/
Tad Cummins' attorney left the case Tuesday after trying to talk to the teenage girl who prosecutors say Cummins took across the country for sex in 2017.
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Defense attorney Brent Horst asked to drop out of Cummins' case at least partly because he was concerned federal prosecutors might be investigating his attempts to talk to the girl Cummins is accused of taking across the country, U.S. District Judge Aleta Trauger said during a hearing.

Sara Myers, the lead federal prosecutor in Cummins' case, would not confirm or deny the existence of any investigations. Trauger seemed reluctant to relieve Horst from the case but ultimately granted his request after speaking to him in a closed session.

Cummins originally had a federal public defender but his family cobbled together enough money to hire Horst. Now "they don't have anymore money," Trauger said. Cummins will be assigned a public defender or an appointed attorney.
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After the hearing, Horst said he tried to talk to the girl, but only as part of his preparation for the case.

"I made attempts to interview the victim to do my duty to investigate the case as defense counsel," he said.

He would not discuss the timing of his attempts to reach the girl or the reason he might be under federal investigation.

"If the case were over I'd be happy to tell you the whole story because I'd love to give my side of what's going," he said. "I think it needs to be heard.


"Out of respect for not trying to muck up Mr. Cummins, the rest of his case, I'm not going to say anything until that's all over."

Horst filed a sealed motion to leave the case on Jan. 11. Two days before, Trauger issued an order that "neither defense counsel nor any relatives or associates of the defendant" could contact the teenage girl "by any means." The order said any request to speak should be made through the girl's attorney.

Nashville attorney Alex Little said defense attorneys are typically allowed to interview the victim in a case.
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Cummins' trial was scheduled to begin in April but will likely be delayed after a new defense attorney is selected.

Cummins is also the target of a civil lawsuit last week filed against him and the Maury County school system by the girl and her father.
 
“If the case were over I'd be happy to tell you the whole story because I'd love to give my side of what's going," he said. "I think it needs to be heard.”

That tells me he’s gonna write a book and make MILLIONS! :greedy: That comment sounds like just a teaser so everyone will eagerly await its release.
 
sounds like the attorney quit because the family ran out of money.

And BTW why is the family wasting money on this POS’s defense??!! If I were the wife I would have emptied out the joint accounts the day he left.
 
sounds like the attorney quit because the family ran out of money.

And BTW why is the family wasting money on this POS’s defense??!! If I were the wife I would have emptied out the joint accounts the day he left.
I agree ..

Obviously, the wife is a moron and the kids are idiots ..
Fucking fools ..
 
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