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Found Amber Alert 15yo Elizabeth Thomas Last Seen With 50yo Tad Cummins, Believed To Be Armed With 2 Guns

Norcal Skim said:
I heard on the news he had bought Cialis and KY Jelly at Walmart, hence the sex with minor charges. (not kidding).

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Yep, and her dad thinks she was "brainwashed." Newser covered it thusly:

Elizabeth Thomas' father says he believes his 15-year-old daughter was brainwashed by Tad Cummins, the former teacher accused of kidnapping her, the Tennessean reports. Cummins and Elizabeth were found this week at a cabin in northern California, weeks after they disappeared from Tennessee. While Anthony Thomas says he hasn't had a chance to speak to his daughter yet—he hopes to soon—he says she is going to need therapy to recover from the ordeal. It remains unclear whether Elizabeth went with Cummins willingly, according to the New York Daily News.

Meanwhile, authorities say Cummins' actions prior to going on the lam show he was planning on kidnapping Elizabeth, apparently for sexual purposes. According to a federal complaint, Cummins, 50, refilled his prescription for erectile dysfunction medication and made reservations for one-bed rooms at multiple Super 8 motels prior to kidnapping Elizabeth. CNN reports Cummins told his wife he needed to borrow her car for a (nonexistent) job interview and took out a $4,500 loan "to meet their financial needs." Cummins had been suspended from his teaching job for conduct with Elizabeth. The federal complaint also states Cummins bought chocolates and sexual lubricant at Walmart while on the run with Elizabeth.
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http://www.newser.com/story/241663/dad-of-kidnapped-teen-says-she-was-brainwashed.html
 
Oberle said:
Elizabeth Thomas' father says he believes his 15-year-old daughter was brainwashed by Tad
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Wrong Dad ... your Daughter liked the attention of an older man, ran away with him ... she hated her life with you THAT much !!!! Fucking idiot ... SHUT UP!
 
Griffin Barry, the guy who tipped off LE speaks...
YREKA, Calif. — Tad Cummins was an intensely sought fugitive, trumpeted from coast to coast as the Tennessee teacher accused of running off with his 15-year-old student.

But before his capture this week, he and the young woman he called his wife slipped into a remote Northern California community unrecognized and Cummins passed himself off for days as a down-on-his-luck Colorado man who’d just lost his job and home, according to the man who eventually tipped off police.

Cummins was arrested — and the girl, 15-year-old Elizabeth Thomas, was found safe — Thursday outside a cabin in Cecilville, Calif., ending a 39-day hunt for the teen who was reported missing some 1,900 miles away in her hometown south of Nashville.

The former teacher is facing federal and state charges stemming from her disappearance. The girl is expected to be returned to relatives in Tennessee Friday, her family said.

The two spent at least one night in the cabin, police said. But they’d been in the heavily wooded area 60 miles south of the Oregon border since at least last week, according to Griffin Barry, who said he eventually helped police capture Cummins.

Cummins and the teen arrived at a Cecilville-area gas station last week, apparently on their way to visit a commune, Barry told KDRV.

Cummins, 50, told Barry he was 44, and that the teen was his 22-year-old wife, Barry told KRCR.

“He was saying he was from Colorado. He said he had a house fire and he got fired from his job, and he had his last $10 or whatever,” Barry told KRCR. “I gave him $40 and put gas in his tank.”

The pair went to the commune but returned to the gas station Tuesday, apparently having been turned away, Barry told KDRV.

Barry said he offered Cummins work — moving rocks — and a place to stay: A small cabin for which Barry was the caretaker.

But Barry said he eventually became suspicious, noting Cummins was driving a Nissan Rogue without any license plates, and that Cummins’ companion spoke few words for herself, he told KRCR and KOBI.

As he discussed and researched the pair with someone, Barry saw Cummins’ picture online in an urgent Amber Alert widely distributed by authorities.

He called police Wednesday night, KRCR reported, and authorities asked the caretaker to help them capture Cummins.

Thursday morning, Barry asked Cummins to come outside and help him build a rock wall on the property. When Cummins left the cabin, investigators were there to arrest him, the cabin’s owner, Monk O’Hare, said.

Siskiyou County sheriff’s Sgt. Mike Gilley confirmed his team worked with a neighbor to draw Cummins out of the cabin. Cummins was taken into custody. Elizabeth was walking behind him and was detained.

“There aren’t words in the English language to describe the level of relief and elation experienced by the Thomas family,” said Jason Whatley, the attorney for the girl’s family. “Now begins another hard chapter, but for now, we celebrate.”

Cummins and the girl disappeared March 13 as a police investigation into their relationship was heating up.

A high school health sciences teacher in the Tennessee town of Culleoka, Cummins had been suspended in February, less than a month after a student reported seeing him and the 15-year-old kissing in a classroom.

Surveillance video showed the pair at a Wal-Mart in Oklahoma City on March 15.

Cummins and the teen also visited a Wal-Mart in the Oklahoma Panhandle city of Guymon on March 16, and he rented a one-bed motel room in Guymon on March 16 and 17, a criminal complaint filed in federal court Thursday alleges.

After that, the trail appears to have gone cold.
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http://kdvr.com/2017/04/21/tipster-reveals-how-tennessee-teacher-tad-cummins-covered-up-identity/

:hattip:Griffin Barry
 
lithiumgirl said:
Wrong Dad ... your Daughter liked the attention of an older man, ran away with him ... she hated her life with you THAT much !!! Fucking idiot ... SHUT UP!
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Uh, no. She hated her abusive fucking mom that much. Her dad took her from her "mom" who had left her vulnerable to this bastard with "homeschooling" and abuse. Dad was just starting her new life, which will now have to start again from a harder spot.
 
Caligirl90 said:
Oh, this asshole groomed her and brainwashed her. I don't debate that part. Just don't think it was dads fault.
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oF COURSE IT WAS HER PARENTS FAULT ... who do you thinks makes assholes and bitches ...and children who can be groomed ... adults do ... they don't fall from the sky. Its true ... same reason not everyone is an asshole or bitch and some kids but not EVERY kid get groomed ... parents make these people. Some people have good ones (parents) and the rest we read about here, and sometimes socialise on a limited basis with.
 
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lithiumgirl said:
oF COURSE IT WAS HER PARENTS FAULT ... who do you thinks makes assholes and bitches ...and children who can be groomed ... adults do ... they don't fall from the sky. Its true ... same reason not everyone is an asshole or bitch and some kids but not EVERY kid get groomed ... parents make these people. Some people have good one and the rest we read about here, and sometimes socialise on a limited basis with.
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But it was MOM not dad. She kept dad away, and he fought like hell to get her. Mom abused her, isolated her and all that shit. This is squarely at the feet of Tad Cummins and this girls mom. I just feel so bad for Elizabeth. The whole town will know what happened. How can she have a normal high school experience from here on out? God, it will take her so much more to get her life on a normal track. I really hope she makes it through. Her mom and this dickhead totally fucked up an innocent girls life.
 
The student related that Cummins rambled on and on about how much he loved his wife, but indicated that VICTIM sometimes went to church with him and his wife and that VICTIM had a troubled past
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Is it just me or does that imply his wife knew something?

Cummins' wife returned home the evening of March 13, 2017 and discovered a note left from Cummins. In the note, Cummins explained that he was travelling to Virginia Beach or the D.C. area to clear his head. He said he would be back and urged his wife not to call the police. Cummins denied doing anything wrong and asked his wife to forgive him. At that time, the wife did not contact police.
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Yeah, I uh... I don't like his wife anymore. At least she's divorcing him?
 
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cubby said:
http://bcove.me/avswq775

video of the guy who figured out who they were and called the police.
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Something weird--Cummins introduced her to the dude who put them up in a shed as his 22 year-old newly married bride who didn't like to talk to people. When the pair were conversing with others, she would whisper in Cummins' ear, and then he would repeat whatever she had whispered into his ear. :confused:

I don't think all those years of homeschooling did her any favors. Some interesting details on the whole thing here:

http://heavy.com/news/2017/04/eliza...ad-cummins-arrested-mugshot-california-where/

They posted a lot of romantic stuff on Instagram, she had one image that said: "Every Beauty needs her Beast to protect her from everything but him." :hungover:

I just hope to hell she's not pregnant. According to the link above, Tad apparently compared Planned Parenthood to the Mafia (sigh). And while he's on record buying chocolates, Cialis, and sex lube for what I guess they thought of as their honeymoon :vomit::vomit::vomit::vomit:, no mention of condoms or other birth control for her. :(
 
She is back home in Tennessee.
Update 3 p.m. Friday: Through their attorney, the family of Elizabeth Thomas confirmed she is "in a safe location with family and friends" after arriving back in Tennessee on Friday afternoon.

"She is being evaluated and treated by mental health experts specializing in trauma," the statement reads. "There is no doubt that she suffered severe emotional trauma and that her process of recovery is only just beginning."
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http://www.tennessean.com/story/new...d-cummins-found-northern-california/99544310/
 
SimplySpaztastic said:
She is back home in Tennessee.

http://www.tennessean.com/story/new...d-cummins-found-northern-california/99544310/
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Thanks SS, that article linked to this one:

http://www.tennessean.com/story/new...izabeth-thomas-fall-prey-predators/100743874/

...""You have a very vulnerable young lady who perhaps did not have adequate coping skills, who was taken advantage of by a predator," said Bailey, a psychologist in California since 1991 and consultant for the National Center For Missing and Exploited Children....

....Each case of sexual exploitation and kidnapping is different. But there is one commonality: They tend to have a person who uses a coercive factor to force or lure away a child, Bailey said.

When someone breaks into a home and takes a child — an exceedingly rare occurrence, according to the NCMEC — that person relies on fears and threats. In a case where an adult authority figure runs away with a student, Bailey says there is typically a grooming that occurs.

"Grooming is often a slow and steady coercive process. The message that, 'I am the only one that can understand you, emotions are here, come be with me and I’ll save you from the terrible, ugly world,'" Bailey explained.

"Typically the victim of a kidnapping does not fall in love with a perpetrator. They adapt to the circumstances to survive. To those who say, 'Look, she was in love and went willingly,' we need to look at the grooming process."....

....Elizabeth also had issues at home. Maury County court records show her mother was arrested in 2016 for allegedly abusing Elizabeth and four of her siblings. Bailey says these kind of problems create an opportunity for a vulnerable child to become a victim.

"The problem is, when you have relationships with older guys like this … the element of choice for the youngster just isn’t there," Bailey said, noting a person's brain doesn't fully develop until they are in their 20s.

"Their (lack of) critical thinking increases their capacity to be exploited."....

...."The impact long-term is the issue too," Bailey said, saying Elizabeth may have some challenges in the future with friendships and other aspects of trying to engage in a relatively normal life.

"She deserves compassion, 100 percent compassion."

Through their attorney, Elizabeth's family confirmed she is "in a safe location with family and friends" after arriving back in Tennessee on Friday afternoon.

"She is being evaluated and treated by mental health experts specializing in trauma," read a statement from the family. "There is no doubt that she suffered severe emotional trauma and that her process of recovery is only just beginning." (end)

For those with any doubts as to whom is the criminal here, I must recommend going with the legal/psychology experts on this, versus any kind of bullshit inbred-troglodyte mindset that a highly sheltered and abused, *fifteen year old girl* is in ANY FUCKING WAY RESPONSIBLE for a *fifty year old adult man* grooming and ABDUCTING her across multiple states.
A man, I might add who was in an authority/mentorship role as her teacher, who knew of her past problems of abuse/lack of social interaction/home schooling, and whom also possessed two loaded handguns during the entire time of her abduction.

This girl had never been in a classroom environment, had been abused for years by her mother and kept from seeing or bonding with her father; there is no way to expect her to understand the complexity of proper adult-child interactions in life outside of her home, nor for her to have the necessary coping or social skills that most girls her age have with normal father figure/male role models in their lives.
There's a reason it's illegal nearly everywhere in the US for anyone her age to be able to consent to anything with a man his age, and it has more to due with manipulational constructs than just simple moral reasons: children are easily manipulated by adults, the further the age difference, the higher the manipulative aptitude by the elder.

Elizabeth Smart had a wonderful and caring home life with her family, and far more social experiences when she was abducted from her home by a complete crazy; if she could fall susceptible to brainwashing, manipulation and Stockholm syndrome, then so can every child this age, regardless of their socio/economic backgrounds or family dynamics.

FFS, anyone blaming her, or her father for this is fucking full of shit and themselves, and is merely victim blaming and doing their part to further stigmatize Elizabeth and other girls who've had similar horrific experiences.
The only person in this story any of us here are morally superior to (hopefully) is Tad Cummings.
I honestly hope Elizabeth never Google's her case and sees this thread, because some of the comments here will devastate and victimize her all over again.
 
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People are Dumb ... she wasn't groomed. She like the attention and she ran away with a married man. End of story ... if you don't want your kids to do this ... give them a good life they won't want to runaway from.
 
Teacher and 'kidnapped' student, 15, live in clothing-optional commune http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4435174/Teacher-took-student-15-clothing-optional-commune.

Eeeyooo, their tonsil hockey by the campfire grossed out the anarchist nudists.
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lithiumgirl said:
People are Dumb ... she wasn't groomed. She like the attention and she ran away with a married man.
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I think it is both.
She's not total clay in her lover's hands. She has a personality of her own. She did not have proper guidance or opportunities to develop better judgement and discernment. (Apparently due to mom, dad was trying once he got custody.) She thought, fantasized about this romance and chose to flee. She's a naive young fool, but thinking of her entirely as a victim and tool of the man also infantilizes her, which does her a disservice.
 
Muriel Schwenck said:
Teacher and 'kidnapped' student, 15, live in clothing-optional commune http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4435174/Teacher-took-student-15-clothing-optional-commune.

Eeeyooo, their tonsil hockey by the campfire grossed out the anarchist nudists.
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I think it is both.
She's not total clay in her lover's hands. She has a personality of her own. She did not have proper guidance or opportunities to develop better judgement and discernment. (Apparently due to mom, dad was trying once he got custody.) She thought, fantasized about this romance and chose to flee. She's a naive young fool, but thinking of her entirely as a victim and tool of the man also infantilizes her, which does her a disservice.
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Omg. That link. Says. So. Much. :wtf:
 
I think she might have had more of a fairy tale ideal in her head about how it was all going to work out, not knowing that they would be living like vagabonds out of a car for the rest of their time together. That can be kinda romantic for a few minutes but after a while it gets a bit much to put up with.

I tried "running away" when I was 18 with an 18 year old boy, lived in a old house in the middle of a corn field with no electricity, running water or modern facilities. After a while having to beg neighbors for baths was more than I could handle. I was not born a hippie, I like TV and toilets.

Reality has that funny way of hitting you right square between the eyes like a sledgehammer sooner or later.
 
Muriel Schwenck said:
Eeeyooo, their tonsil hockey by the campfire grossed out the anarchist nudists.
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That says a lot when you manage to gross out and seem odd to free-loving anarchists living in a clothing optional commune, which has seen outlaws, felons, and even a KKK member come through their ranch. They even welcomed magicians and wizards!

Cummings immaturely joked about penises and vaginas, and was a hot tempered, lazy douchewad who didn't pull his weight around the commune.

From @Muriel Schwenck's link:

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But there was something particularly odd about Cummins and his young 'wife' and the age gap didn't sit well with any of the residents.

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But Cummins' conservative Christian beliefs, lazy work ethic and powder-keg temper soon led to conflict with commune residents and the couple's life on the run began to fall apart.

And after just ten days on the ranch the pair was kicked off the property and fled to a campsite in nearby Cecilville.

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'Joanna (Thomas) would stand in front of him with her arms in the air and say, 'up, up, up', like she was a small child asking to be lifted, and he'd smile and lift her up. It was so weird, like a father picking up his daughter.

'They would also be whispering to each other all the time, we'd be all talking at the table and they would be whispering secrets.

'They would make childish jokes with each other and laugh at talk of penises or vaginas, it was as if he was coming down to her maturity level.'
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ook-student-15-clothing-optional-commune.html
 
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Muriel Schwenck said:
but thinking of her entirely as a victim and tool of the man also infantilizes her, which does her a disservice.
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Exactly ... everyone plays a role. Own it ... learn from it.
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Siobhan said:
I honestly hope Elizabeth never Google's her case and sees this thread, because some of the comments here will devastate and victimize her all over again.
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OMG ... we're doomed. The girl ran away with the man. She hated her parents (both) so much that she abandoned her life with them left with Tad Cumming. She is fifteen not four, she knew what she was doing. With your attitudes Ms Thomas will be a victim for the rest of her life. And honestly being a victim entitle you to nothing ...Not a god damn thing except the opportunity to learn how not to fall into that role again and that starts with accountability.
 
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'They would make childish jokes with each other and laugh at talk of penises or vaginas, it was as if he was coming down to her maturity level.'
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Meh, minor stuff. Everyday reaction for anyone from Kentucky (back east) who encountered the California anarchist neo-hippy nudist types for the first time. (I'm Californian, I know the tribe.)
 
Apparently, he's blaming it all on her. :bored: Video at the link...

Tad Cummins has yet to tell the world why he allegedly spent 39 days on the run with 15-year-old Elizabeth Thomas, but Cummins' sister says he has told her. In a Today Show interview, Daphne Quinn says she has spoken to her brother three times since the two were found Thursday in a cabin near Cecilville, Calif., and says she asked the former Tennessee teacher why. She says the 50-year-old gave her an answer: He said Elizabeth "wanted to run away and she wanted to leave. And he didn’t want her to go alone, and so he went with her so that he could know that she was safe."
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Satanica said:
Exactly what I was thinking. Pretty obvious what his motives were.
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If you watch the video in Snood's link above, you'll hear the commune members talking about them very audibly shagging like minks (paraphrasing here, of course) in the upstairs bedroom. :vomit::vomit::vomit::vomit::vomit:

All kinds of evidence against this guy, he's going down hard.
 
And obviously he thinks he too smart for the regular people, going along with her to keep her safe, who is going to believe that, only him it seems.
 
my "eeeeewwwwwwwssss's" have "eeeeeeeeewwwwwwwsss" :wtf::wtf::wtf:

How did these two manage to "make feel weird" a hippy commune?
 
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