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A flood of 911 calls came in as Jordan Neely was choked to death on the subway this week — with one rider claiming one of the men was armed with a gun or a knife, police officials said.

A total of five emergency calls were made over a four-minute span just before 2:30 p.m. Monday as a Marine — now identified as 24-year-old Daniel Penny — held Neely in a chokehold on the floor of the northbound F train in Lower Manhattan.

The first call, which came in at 2:26, was reporting a physical fight on the subway, followed by another one minute later reporting someone on the train threatening riders.

Seconds later, a third caller claimed a straphanger was armed with a knife or a gun. It was unclear whom the caller was referring to, though neither Neely nor Penny turned out to be armed.

Two more calls then came in a minute apart, at 2:29 and 2:30, for reports of an assault in progress and threats, respectively.

Mayor Eric Adams said cops and EMTs were on the scene within six minutes of getting the first call.

But by that point, emergency responders could not revive an unconscious Neely.

Who is Neely?​


Jordan Neely, 30, a homeless man, was strangled aboard a northbound F train just before 2:30 p.m. on May 1, according to police.

He reportedly started acting erratically on the train and harassing other passengers before being restrained and ultimately choked by a straphanger, identified as a 24-year-old Marine from Queens.

The Marine, who was seen on video applying the chokehold, was taken into custody and later released but the DA is mulling charges, which could include involuntary manslaughter, according to experts.


Why is there fallout over Neely’s death?​


The city medical examiner ruled Neely’s death a homicide, noting he died due to “compression of neck (chokehold).” This will be weighed during the investigation into whether charges will be brought for Neely’s death.


Neely’s aunt told The Post that he became a “complete mess” following the brutal murder of his mother in 2007. She noted he was schizophrenic while suffering from PTSD and depression.


“The whole system just failed him. He fell through the cracks of the system,” Carolyn Neely said.


Law enforcement sources said Neely had “numerous” arrests on his record, including for drugs, disorderly conduct, and fare beating.


At the time of his death, Neely had a warrant out for his arrest for a November 2021 case in which he was accused of assaulting a 67-year-old woman in the East Village, the sources said.


Mayor Eric Adams has said it’s important for the DA to complete the investigation into Neely’s death and not rush to conclusions.

Protesters jump onto subway tracks, clash with NYPD over Jordan Neely’s death​



Infamous subway vigilante Bernie Goetz says Daniel Penny has 'to pay' for killing Jordan Neely

https://nypost.com/2023/05/06/infamous-vigilante-bernie-goetz-daniel-penny-has-to-pay-for-killing-jordan-neely/

 
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Going straight to a chokehold is a really sloppy way to try and restrain somebody that will usually result in a fatality.

The big question is how much of a threat was the victim. Certainly he has a criminal record and there are some questions there but honestly that shouldn't really impact on what was happening here other than the fact of what kind of jeopardy he was putting writers in at the time
 
The mob will relentlessly come after the marine who subdued Neely till his life is ruined, he’s killed or behind bars for life. All for trying to protect his fellow passengers. We often see this exact kind of story where a violent vagrant beats, assaults, or rapes an innocent person, as onlookers do nothing. And we wonder why?
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So strange, the Media left out Neely’s 44 arrests, attempted kidnapping of a 7 year old girl, and recent vicious assault of an elderly woman that shattered her nose and busted her eye socket
 
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So strange, the Media left out Neely’s 44 arrests, attempted kidnapping of a 7 year old girl, and recent vicious assault of an elderly woman that shattered her nose and busted her eye socket
agenda, agenda, agenda
Just like the SUV, that drove into people killing several and injuring many, driver was not agenda responsible or identified at first
 
So strange, the Media left out Neely’s 44 arrests, attempted kidnapping of a 7 year old girl, and recent vicious assault of an elderly woman that shattered her nose and busted her eye socket

So strange?
Because that information is in all three articles Sugar Cookie linked.
Twice in one.
Nothing left out. FOUR times in total right here.
And it's in every other media outlet as well, including ABC:

"However, police records point to a man becoming increasingly violent -- Neely was arrested more than 40 times for multiple assaults, an attempted child abduction, drugs and indecent exposure."

Despite your implications, the media isn't concealing, omitting, leaving anything out.

Why are you pressing the point about his past record?

Neely’s past crimes makes no difference in this case whatsoever.
Prostitutes break the law and are arrested quite often for a variety of charges
Does that mean when a Gary Ridgeway or a Robert Hansen kills one of they, it's OK when we see she had a record???

Ridgeway hated prostitutes and complained regularly about their presence in his neighborhood plying their illegal trade in his neighborhood.

What's the difference?

Penny didn't have access to that information when he made a decision based on his assessment on-the-spot.

It is immaterial in this matter, because it did not inform his decision.

The mob will relentlessly come after the marine who subdued Neely till his life is ruined, he’s killed or behind bars for life. All for trying to protect his fellow passengers. We often see this exact kind of story where a violent vagrant beats, assaults, or rapes an innocent person, as onlookers do nothing. And we wonder why?

The mob? You mean the 100 or so protesters or LE in the regular course of investigating homicides?


And what you said @giantblue? You said something interesting:

".. Onlookers do nothing. And we wonder why?"


I DO wonder why. I
wonder why all those passengers did nothing while they watched some guy (Penny) not in a uniform, put a choke hold on Neely, and chose not help him when he stopped moving, stopped breathing, and stopped being alive right on that subway floor??

I wonder why humans do that?


And if you viewed the video, at the same links provided, there were 2 other adult men assisting Penny.

Killed or behind bars? Killed? That's fantastical exaggeration with no historical precedent to predict that kind of outcome.
What an odd thing to say.

Behind bars? Daniel Penny hasn't been arrested or charged with anything.

Bernie Goetz opened fire on 4 men and served 6 months.

The Good Samaritan law covers liability for a non-licensed person, it does not cover you when you kill someone who, as the video and witnesses AND Penny all consistently, had not touched or threatened anyone.

If it does go to trial, we can hear thebevidence then, right?
Personally, I don't think it has legs.

But you, GB, will never understand that we both hope for a positive outcome for Penny.
I don't think Penny is a terrible, black-hating monster just waiting for this chance. He wanted to help others.

But your fury that I disagreed with some of your statements will halt that understanding.



 

Jordan Neely was on NYC’s ‘Top 50 list’ of homeless people with urgent need for help before subway death​


Jordan Neely, the homeless man choked to death on the subway last week, was reportedly listed on a city roster of people on the streets who desperately needed help.
Referred to colloquially as the “Top 50” list, the internal catalogue held by the city’s Department of Homeless Services details which people are cycling in and out of homeless shelters and mental health treatment centers, a source told The Post Monday.

The agency and its nonprofit service providers flag cases that need close attention, which helps them keep track of those in dire need of assistance.
“There’s a group of folks that providers are concerned about, and there’s frequent conferencing related to that material,” the source said.

The list has no ranking, and the DHS doesn’t look at a set number of people, nor is there a connection to how violent or how much of a problem the homeless person is, an agency spokesperson said Monday when asked about the list.
But the agency tries to find those who are hardest to reach and particularly vulnerable – for instance, older people who may have lived on the streets for decades, the rep added.

The DHS does not share the list with other agencies due to privacy concerns, according to sources. And it’s not clear if Mayor Eric Adams’ much-vaunted subway safety teams have access to it.
But non-profit teams on the street often run into the same people again and again, so they have a good idea who is most at-risk – regardless of what the roster says, sources said.
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A fundraiser for Daniel Penny neared the $2 million mark Sunday, with his attorneys saying donations have kept rolling in because the subway chokehold case has “struck a chord” with people across the country.

The “Legal Defense Fund” for Penny — the 24-year-old former Marine charged with manslaughter in the death of homeless man Jordan Neely — had eclipsed $1.8 million in donations by Sunday evening.

“The outpouring of support for Danny is always measured by the amount raised, but what is even more telling is that tens of thousands of people from all over the world have taken the time to donate,” Penny’s attorney, Steven M. Raiser, wrote in an email to The Post.

“This level of support demonstrates that the situation forced upon him in that subway car earlier this month, and his subsequent arrest, has struck a chord in the psyche of New Yorkers and has been echoed nationwide,” Raiser wrote.

“The message being sent by this massive showing of support is that any attempt to undermine the right and duty to protect one another against an imminent threat will be challenged.”

Penny was charged Friday with second-degree manslaughter for allegedly choking and killing Neely, 30, a former street performer with a long history of mental illness, during a May 1 subway ride on an F train in Manhattan. He was released on $100,000 bail.

Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg must try to secure a grand jury indictment before the case can proceed, Raiser said.
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A straphanger who witnessed the fatal subway confrontation between Daniel Penny and Jordan Neely earlier this month called Penny a “hero” for restraining the homeless man before his death.
The 66-year-old woman, who asked not to be identified, also said she’d testify on behalf of Penny, 24, who was charged last week with second-degree manslaughter over the deadly encounter.
The witness told The Post that Neely, 30, went on an explosive tirade just before his caught-on-camera death, telling people he was willing to “kill a motherf—er” and “[take] a bullet” and go to jail.

Neely’s erratic behavior put commuters on the F train subway car on edge as they hurtled between stations in Manhattan, the witness said.
“The rhetoric from Mr. Neely was very frightening, it was very harsh,” the witness told The Post.

“People that travel the subway see and hear everything — this was different. And frightening.

“People were gravitating towards the exit doors, and we couldn’t get out because we were still between stations,” she continued.
“People exited quickly [when we pulled in], and people were trying to call 911 when they were in the train … I sensed danger.”
She said Penny asked her if she would testify about what she saw.

“If necessary [I’ll testify],” the witness said.
“I think Mr. Penny deserves a chance … Mr. Neely, he gave people cause to feel that their life was being threatened. He didn’t care. He said he didn’t care. I consider [Daniel Penny] to be a hero.”

“Anything that can help Mr. Penny, but also help the homeless or mentally ill individual out on the streets that could find themselves in the same situation — the answer is concern for all citizens of all colors,” the witness added.
Neely, a homeless man with a lengthy history of mental illness, died after the May 1 confrontation with Penny, a Queens man who once led infantry squads in the Marines.
 
Daniel Penny has been indicted by a grand jury in Lower Manhattan in the death of Jordan Neely on a subway train last month.
Charges will be unsealed when he is arraigned on the indictment at a later date. Penny, 24, was initially arrested on manslaughter charges in Neely's death.

The Manhattan Districts Attorney Office did not immediately comment.
The former Marine was recorded holding Neely, a 30-year-old homeless man, in a minutes-long chokehold on an F train on May 1.

Penny's attorneys released a video statement over the weekend where he said he was protecting himself and other passengers.
Many believe the case is exposing New York City's failure to address subway safety and mental health.

The case's racial dynamics have also made it a hot-button issue. Neely's supporters have argued that Penny's delayed arrest is an example of a racist system. He surrendered to police 11 days after the killing under mounting public pressure.

I hope the women of NY know they will be assaulted/raped and no one will come to their aid for fear of being arrested.
 

I hope the women of NY know they will be assaulted/raped and no one will come to their aid for fear of being arrested.
True, this crap has to stop, this is being done to keep the city from being burned to the ground by the local known terrorist group. New York’s motto arrest the innocent and refuse to charge the guilty
 
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Manhattan prosecutors doubled-down Wednesday on their controversial decision to bring manslaughter charges in the subway chokehold death of Jordan Neely — arguing ex-Marine Daniel Penny should have known he was about to kill the homeless man considering his military training and warnings from worried bystanders.
The statements were included in a response to an October filing by defense lawyers that sought to dismiss the case — with prosecutors stressing that Penny, 24, allegedly directly killed Neely when he laced his arms around the troubled homeless man’s neck for six minutes inside the subway car.
“The evidence before the grand jury establishes that Jordan Neely transitioned from life to the throes of death during the precise moments that he was being held in a chokehold by the defendant,” wrote Joshua Steinglass, the assistant district attorney handling the case,

He argued that there was clear proof Penny “caused Mr. Neely’s death.”
The Manhattan District Attorney’s Office also pushed back on a number of statements Penny’s defense lawyers made in their motion, which sought to portray Neely, a 30-year-old with a history of mental health problems, as a true threat to the other passengers riding the F train the day of the encounter.
Among these was their contention that Penny couldn’t be held accountable for killing Neely because his death was “not foreseeable.”

“The notion that death is not a foreseeable consequence of squeezing someone’s neck for six minutes is beyond the pale,” Steinglass wrote — adding that the grand jury saw “considerable evidence” that Penny was trained to use the dangerous chokeholds by the US Marines.
“The defendant’s own trainer testified that even though ‘chokes’ are taught as a means of non-lethal restraint, students are specifically cautioned during training that a choke can be fatal to the person being held,” the filing said.

Even if they had not been, the forward to the Marine Corps Martial Arts Program manual clearly states that the “[t]echniques described in this manual can cause serious injury or death,” Steinglass wrote.
“This training helps support the notion that the defendant was aware of and consciously disregarded a substantial and unjustifiable risk that death would occur as a result of his prolonged use of a chokehold,” the filing said.
One witness said they were initially grateful for Penny’s intervention, but thought the “nature and duration of the hold verged on overkill,” Steinglass wrote.

“The hold seemed so unnecessary at that point that an eyewitness can be heard on video urging the defendant to let go of Mr. Neely and warning the defendant that ‘If you don’t let him go now, you’re going to kill him,’” according to the court document.
One witness said they saw a “thick and pinkish substance” spill from Neely’s mouth as soon as Penny released him, the filing states.

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Penny should have gotten off at the next stop. He wanted to feel like a hero, he knew his actions could lead to a death and, more importantly, legal consequences for himself, but performed them anyway. So, zero fucking sympathy.
 
Prosecutors are trying to ban testimony at Daniel Penny’s upcoming trial that would detail Jordan Neely’s psychiatric history and chronic abuse of the drug K2 — something Penny’s lawyers argued “goes to the heart of any justification defense” in the lightning-rod subway chokehold case.
Defense attorneys for the ex-Marine — who faces manslaughter charges for allegedly choking Neely to death on a Manhattan train car in May 2023 — want forensic psychiatrist Dr. Alexander Bardey to testify about Neely’s abuse of the synthetic cannabinoid at next month’s trial.

They also want to introduce Neely’s voluminous psychiatric records, which include 6,000 pages’ worth of material that detail the homeless man’s family history, surgeries, prior “bad acts” and more, according to court documents.
Prosecutors from the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office said in a recent filing that the testimony and records would only serve to batter Neely’s reputation before the jury.
“Their suggested introduction is a transparent attempt by the defense to smear the victim’s character so that the jury will devalue his life,” Assistant District Attorney Dafna Yoran wrote about the defense’s request.
The doctor’s proposed testimony about Neely’s past volatile behavior and aggressive tendencies is “clearly impermissible” because it’s not related to the fatal encounter, the prosecutor wrote.

“The only thing relevant to the justification defense is the victim’s behavior at the time of the incident,” Yoran continued.

“Numerous witnesses will testify regarding Mr. Neely’s aggressive behavior on the date of the incident. The jury does not need and cannot be permitted to hear Dr. Bardey’s opine as to why Mr. Neely was aggressive.”
In a response dated Tuesday, Penny’s attorney, Thomas Kenniff, wrote that the defense had no intention of trying to smear Neely’s reputation in open court.
“Instead … it is the Government’s motives that should be examined, as they seek to impede the jury’s truth-seeking function by suggesting that jurors be barred from considering facts relevant to issues material to this case,” Kenniff wrote in the filing.
The attorney also argued that the testimony and evidence would “demonstrate that Mr. Neely was likely under the influence of K2 and experiencing a psychotic episode when he boarded the Queens-bound F train on May of last year, the manifestations of which made his appearance and affect more pronounced and hence more threatening to Mr. Penny and his fellow riders.”
That information, he continued, would “inform the jurors’ understanding as to the plausibility of the witness accounts and the degree of hostility that Mr. Neely exhibited.”

Neely’s toxicology reports confirmed he had K2 in his system when he died, Kenniff said. But the report didn’t say how much was present.
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The prosecutor trying Daniel Penny is a hardline progressive who once bragged about getting a mugger who killed an 87 year-old off a murder charge.
Assistant Manhattan DA Dafna Yoran has asked jurors to convict the marine veteran of manslaughter over the subway chokehold death of Jordan Neely, despite previously pushing for 'restorative justice' for criminals.

In 2019, she asked for reduced punishment for Matthew Lee, 57, after he snuck up on former Lehman College professor Dr. Young Kun Kim, 87, and killed him over $300 with a fatal blow to the head.
The horrific incident was caught on video.
Yoran saw an opportunity in Lee's case to use the 'restorative justice' program introduced by former Manhattan DA Cyrus Vance Jr, as reported by Gothamist.
Lee was charged with manslaughter instead of felony murder after he agreed to meet with the victim's family and both parties consented to the outcome. This reduced his potential sentence from 25 years to life to 10 years. He will be eligible for parole in 2026.

'I had a murder case where the defendant did not intentionally kill the victim,' Yoran boasted during an online seminar.
'When I got the time I took the time to learn about he defendant.... I really felt incredibly sorry for him that he had gotten to that point in his life where he felt there was no choice but to commit this robbery.'
But Yoran has taken a decidedly more hardline approach to 26-year-old Penny's case. She is asking for a potential sentence of 15 years - even though Penny too has always claimed he did not mean to kill Neely, but was acting after the homeless man made threats to other train passengers.
While she discussed Lee as a man who was desperate after falling on hard times, she has maintained a confrontational attitude towards Penny during his trial, with witnesses she has brought to the stand referring to him as 'the white man' and 'murderer.'

'He didn't recognize that Jordan Neely was a person,' Yoran told the jury of Penny. 'He saw him as a person that needed to be eliminated.'
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Matthew Lee

Penny's real crime is being White - Plain and Simple
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Someone needs to check if she was born a dude.
 
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Someone needs to check if she was born a dude.
Another white guilt, dangerous woke liberal moron. Probably kneels at the criminal statue of George Floyd. For appeasement they tear down Lincoln and Washington's statues and honor a wife beating drug dealing criminal, only in woke moron liberal America.
 
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Daniel Penny trial judge agrees to drop top manslaughter count after jury deadlocks twice​

Manhattan prosecutors were forced to take the drastic step of tossing the top charge against Daniel Penny Friday after jurors twice said they couldn’t agree on a verdict in the highly watched subway chokehold case.

The note from jurors stating that they were deadlocked on the count of manslaughter in the second-degree sparked a dizzying and dramatic back-and-forth that ended with Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Maxwell Wiley agreeing to dismiss the rap.

“I’ll take a chance and grant the people’s application,” Wiley said, instructing the jury to return Monday and deliberate the charge of criminally negligent homicide, which carries a lighter sentence.

“Whether that makes any difference or not, I have no idea. But I’m going to direct you to focus your deliberations on count two,” he said with a touch of deadpan humor — before telling them: “Go home and think about something else.”
 
Jordan Neely’s father was escorted out of courtroom after the watershed verdict finding Daniel Penny not-guilty was read.

After the verdict was read, Andre Zachary began jawing with someone in the gallery behind him, visibly frustrated and turning back on the pew while arguing loudly with the person.

He seemed to have told him something along the lines of: “you clapping when my son got f—ing killed.”
Court officers interjected, telling him to be quiet before the judge pointed at Zachary, and yelled “Out, out — you’re out.”
Outside the courthouse, Zachary reacted solemnly to Penny’s acquittal in the 2023 subway train death of his son, telling reporters outside a Manhattan courthouse that he missed his Jordan.

“My son didn’t have to go through this. I didn’t have to go through this either,” a dejected looking Andre Zachary said. “It hurts. It really, really hurts.

A Manhattan jury has cleared Daniel Penny of criminal wrongdoing in the chokehold death of Jordan Neely on a crowded subway — a caught-on-video killing that sparked fierce debate over the city’s mental health system and crime underground.
The courtroom erupted in applause as the panelists acquitted Penny of criminally negligent homicide — which could have put him behind bars for up to four years — in Neely’s chokehold death aboard a crowded uptown F train in May 2023.

“We the jury have come to a unanimous decision on county two,” the foreperson on the jury told the courtroom.
 
I am so glad that Daniel Penny was found Not Guilty. Penny did NOTHING wrong and EVERYTHING right in that situation, and he is heroic not just for what he did, but also for having served in the Marines.

Usually, I would think that being found Not Guilty of killing someone is perhaps the shadiest possible attribute a person can have. (Think OJ Simpson and Robert Blake for example.) In this case, not so much. Penny neutralized a clear and credible threat in a highly public area, and acted in the surrounding people's best interest by doing so.

I wish it didn't have to get to the point that he had to be found Not Guilty. I would even suggest that the trial was not exactly legitimate, due to how (in my mind at least) unambiguous the situation was, and well as how much of an unsympathetic social menace and looney tune Neely was. But at least with that type of verdict being administered, it shows and validates that Penny was not wrong in his actions that day.

Another telling thing with the verdict was how the Neely supporters in the room responded.

After the verdict was read, Penny’s side of the courtroom reportedly applauded, while the side of the courtroom supporting Neely became disruptive once again, with someone allegedly talking about killing, according to journalist Matthew Lee, who was in the room. Those in Neely’s corner also reportedly said America is “a racist country!”

The judge and attorneys discussed the protests, with the defense pointing out that many have been anti-Penny, with protesters chanting, “Daniel Penny, subway strangler,” and “If we don’t get no justice, they don’t get no peace.” Kenniff also asked to enter videos of the protests taken on his cell phone into the court record.


Disturbing, isn't it? What Neely supporters are not saying out loud is that they think that people "on their side" should be able to threaten, intimidate, and menace others with immunity from consequence; and that those who hold them to account should be retaliated against. Having dealt with multiple such people like that in my own life, I can attest that they are full scum of the earth. When they feel aggrieved or slighted; validly or otherwise; they can only communicate by means of fear; coercion; slander of others; and, yes, threats.

And think about it: if someone goes this far and is this passionate about defending a person they know was wrong, and do not say a single word about what that person did wrong, and also actively seeks to denigrate and grotesquify those who even civilly and respectfully want to criticize the malicious party; then such people are effectively defending the malicious party's actions as well. These people here are effectively defending Neely's "right" to cause a threatening, violent, and lethal tantrum in public. I have no doubt that if Neely would've killed someone else instead, these same people would be the first to bring up his "disadvantaged background", his "struggles with mental illness", and his identity points; and spin them all as "mitigating factors" for why Neely should get slapped on the wrist and given his 35th or so chance in society.

I hope that the judicial predation against Penny stops now. I am glad that the rules of double jeopardy prevent him from being tried for this again. But that may not stop a vigilante from trying to pursue their own measure of revenge against Penny. After all, as previously described, the pro-Neely side is the side of threats, coercion, violence, and tribal narcissism; and I wouldn't put it past them if any one of them tried to hatch an evil, retaliatory plan against Penny.

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PROTECT THIS GOOD MAN
 
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