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Celis case detectives keep search warrant sealed

It will be at least another month-and-a half before we know what Tucson Police found in Isabel Celis's home. Investigators extended a request to keep those papers secret.

34 days after Isabel Celis disappeared, police shared a large stack of reports. But now, on day 70 there is one set of documents still locked away: the search warrants.

Police may not know for sure what happened in the Celis house the day the six year old girl disappeared but search warrants may offer their theories.

A search warrant release often includes transcripts of detectives convincing the judge to issue the warrant. They tell the judge what they think they may find. After the search, detectives report what they did find.

In early May, the parents told us, police used special compounds to find evidence.

Becky Celis said, "They used a lot of chemicals especially the kids rooms, the boys and Isa's room for evidence collection and so. We couldn't take the kids in there without having it professionally removed."

But detectives have asked over and over to keep the warrants sealed. They requested 30 days under seal at first; then another 45, then yet another 45 days.

That means the warrants will probably be locked up until late August---about four months after Isabel's disappearance.

Even without the warrants, we know some of what police found from reports they did release; including apparent blood on the floor of Isabel's bedroom.

In a car, they found a vinyl shower curtain with dark red or brown stains.

Soon after those reports came out in late May, Tucson Police Chief Roberto Villasenor said some of the smallest clues can break a case.

"We never discount anything been doing for almost 32 years and you continue to get surprised."

Police will often avoid releasing certain information because it may be something only the criminal would know. But we've heard no elaboration on why they've kept the warrant information in this case sealed for so long.

Usually warrants are available within a few days of a crime but those are usually crimes where someone is under arrest and an arrest is still something we're waiting for in the Celis case.
http://www.kgun9.com/news/local/160916585.html
 

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Killroy

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Two Juvenile Girls Arrested After Calling 911 Pretending To Be Isabel Celis

TUCSON, AZ *–*Two sisters, ages 9 and 11, were arrested the other day after they prank called 911 and pretended to be Isable Calis, the 6-year-old girl who has been missing since April.
Police say they received a phone call Sunday morning from a young girl who identified herself as Calis. She told the dispatcher that she had been kidnapped and then hung up the phone.
The call was traced to a cell phone in the area of an apartment complex and over 25 officers, including detectives from the Sex Offenders Registration and Tracking Unit,*responded to the area.*After e bit of canvassing the neighborhood, police made contact with the sisters who admitted that they had made the call as a joke. There mother was home at the time, but did not know what her daughters had done.
Both girls were arrested on suspicion of false reporting to a law enforcement agency. Although they were initially booked into a juvenile corrections center, their lack of a record and the charge being a misdemeanor meant they did not meet the criteria for being detained.*According to*Stephen Rubin, the juvenile court’s administrator, it will be up to the*Pima County Attorney’s Office to press charges against the siblings.…

This article is from The Dreamin' Demon, the Internet's self-appointed buzzkill.


"Read the full Front Page article..."
 

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Dakota

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Six months ago today, Sergio and Becky Celis' world was turned upside down when their daughter Isabel vanished.

"Knowing that it's been already half a year that our baby's been gone, yes it's overwhelming," said Sergio Celis.

But each day they become more hopeful. "We're waiting for her, we're ready," said Becky Celis, "So that's what gets us by."

They've spruced up her room painting the walls purple. Cards and stuffed animals sit on top of her bed and a small memorial off to the side on her nightstand. For the past six months, Isabel's family has prayed every day for her safe return.

We've learned Sergio's sister hired a private investigators during the Summer and police tell us they've gotten around three thousand leads and have two detectives actively working the case. But, Isabel's parents say they're not satisfied.

"I'm sorry to have to say this but we feel like we've been blown off," said Sergio.

Sergio and Becky had no problem speaking with us today but six months ago it was a different story. It took them days before making their first appearance to the media. Many have pointed the finger at Sergio.

Matt Mendes: "You know there are still a lot of people who think you have something to do with Isabel's disappearance?" Sergio: "Let them think what they want."

The family says critics are the least of their worries. "We are here living the nightmare. There's a lot more eating away at our hearts," said Sergio.

They believe the truth will come out eventually. Until then, they maintain their focus on finding Isabel.
http://www.todaysthv.com/news/article/231561/288/Missing-Ariz-girls-parents-plead-for-info

At this point they admit they have grown very frustrated with the investigation, one that has even cast suspicion over Sergio Celis. "I can't understand at the six month point how they have absolutely nothing, to have nothing, and if it was me, why wouldn't they have me gone already, I'm not afraid to say that", Celis said, "Even Becky (Rebecca Celis) says it to everyone, c'mon, when are we going to move on this, digging in the same hole. Can we get out there, because she is not here, in the first three days of the investigation of staying here, she's not here, she hasn't been here since the moment she has been gone from this house."

Rebecca Celis says they now have very little contact with the police and their frustration is reaching the breaking point, "Its very frustrating", she said, "it's hard to not know where the investigation is."

But a half a year later and the Celis' have not lost hope. Isabel's bedroom has been repainted and there's a new bike waiting. Rebecca Celis says she knows that one day her daughter will return, "I know that she is alive, I don't know how to explain it. She is alive, she is somewhere out there. and that I think that is a harder thing to find than a person who is not."
http://www.kvoa.com/news/isabel-celis-now-missing-6-months-and-still-no-answers/
 

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Whisper

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Father: Family member knows something about missing Isabel Celis

TUCSON, AZ (CBS5) -
The father of a missing Tucson girl claims at least one person knows something about her disappearance more than a year ago.
Tuesday would be Isabel Celis' 8th birthday. Her father, Sergio Celis, said a family member he would not name has refused to talk to the family's private investigator.
"It's frustrating to run against a wall," Sergio Celis said. "This person has an attorney and they're not going to let them speak a word, protecting somebody that we feel has a lot of information to give. And if it has to be anonymous, so be it. We just want her home. We want our baby home. We want this nightmare over."
Sergio Celis said he doesn't believe the person committed a crime, just that the person has information that could be critical to the case.
[....]
Police have said they believe she was abducted, but they have not named a suspect nor speculated where she could be.
Her mother, Rebecca, posted to Facebook on Monday that the family will have a special mass Tuesday in honor of her daughter's 8th birthday.
[.....]
The family said it plans another mass on Sept. 1.
http://www.kpho.com/story/23266975/father-family-member-knows-something-about-missing-isabel-celis
 

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AngelFire

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I don't know how this family or any family with a missing kidlet goes on without losing their shit. Just the thought alone makes me anxious
 

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Its stories like this that make me wake up in the middle of the night and make sure my kids are all in their bed...then going OCD and checking to make sure all windows and doors are lock. I hope this little girl is found unharmed.
 

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AngelFire

Your dream or your nightmare. You decide.
Its stories like this that make me wake up in the middle of the night and make sure my kids are all in their bed...then going OCD and checking to make sure all windows and doors are lock. I hope this little girl is found unharmed.
Mine was Danielle Van Damn and Samantha Runnion
 

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Mine was Danielle Van Damn and Samantha Runnion
There's so many of these stories that I've been this way since they were infants...my butthead 11 year old told me its time to let go and stop being so over protective... -_- No, I will not lol. I read stuff like this and just want to cry because these poor babies end up getting robbed of their life.
 

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Dakota

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Tucson Police are beginning the second day of a stepped-up presence in a neighborhood where a Tucson girl went missing nearly two years ago.

Isabel Celis was 6 years old when she disappeared from her home near Broadway and Craycroft in April of 2012.

Tucson Police are putting extra officers in the neighborhood in their ongoing effort to investigate her disappearance.

Authorities are trying a new tactic to get leads; TPD said about 50 commissioned personnel will run special patrols in several blocks surrounding her home on the east side over the next few days.

Tucson News Now spoke with Isabel's parents, Sergio and Becky, on Wednesday: "Baby we're still looking for you, baby. Don't give up and don't give up here. We're still out here, looking. Don't give up. We haven't given up so we hope that she never does, either," Becky Celis said about her daughter, Isabel.

"We have a lot of questions that aren't answered, a lot of things that we wish we could just close the book on. But until then, there's so many things that are left so wide open. You know, they did so much digging right here right here, in our house, right here between me and Becky, into our family, you know, we have already been stripped away from our little daughter and we were violated all over again. And we're hoping that this time around maybe someone else can get the attention. And maybe that, you know, all that strength, and all that force, can go somewhere else and we can really get down to a lot of answers," Sergio Celis said.

Isabel Celis hasn't been seen since Friday, April 20, 2012. Her parents put her to bed that night, and the next day her father, Sergio, noticed she was missing from her bedroom and called police.

The search began that day and continued for more than a week, as police sorted through thousands of potential leads and tips with help from the FBI. Police later came to the conclusion she was abducted, but haven't discussed any solid leads, named any suspects, or made any arrests.
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/24463241/tpd
 

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Dakota

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A door-to-door effort launched this week in the case of a Tucson girl who disappeared from her bedroom more than 18 months ago has yielded some possible tips, police said Saturday

Officers expect to finish talking to residents Saturday in the area where 6-year-old Isabel Mercedes Celis lived, Sgt. Pete Dugan said.

Police received several phone calls within the last few days and were trying to figure out if any hold new information, he said.

"Now what's happening is behind closed doors, investigators have to weed through those calls," Dugan said.

He declined to say what the calls were about because the investigation was still active.

Since Wednesday, more than 50 officers have gone out daily to more than 350 houses and apartment units. According to Dugan, investigators spoke with people new to the area as well as those who were around when the child first went missing.

"Lot of times people won't call 911 with a little piece of information," Dugan said.

Authorities have been searching for the girl since her father reported her missing in April 2012. Dugan says the neighborhood canvass was not being conducted because of any new lead. It had been planned for months, Dugan said.

"We are just letting the public know this case did not go away," he said.

Messages left for the girl's parents were not immediately returned. But the girl's mother, Rebecca Celis, said earlier in the week she was pleased police were renewing efforts.

"We are happy they are trying to get new eyes on the case," the mother said.
http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_central_southern_az/tucson/isabel-celis-missing-tucson-police-investigate-potential-tips-in-missing-girl-isabel-celis
 

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cubby

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-family-speaks-remains-girl-found-233459028.html

The family of a Tucson girl who was found dead nearly five years after going missing from her bedroom has issued a statement thanking the community for support and asking for privacy.

The family of six-year-old Isabel Celis said in a statement issued by Tucson Medical Center, where the girl's mother works, that it is their time to mourn.

Isabel Celis was last seen when she went to bed on April 20, 2012. Her father reported her missing the next morning after realizing she was not in her room.

Police said they found her remains in a rural area in Pima County about a month ago and that an out-of-state lab identified them.

Police Chief Chris Magnus says an intense investigation is ongoing. He wouldn't reveal details about how police found the remains or whether there were any suspects, but he said investigators found them "not by happenstance."
[doublepost=1491096196,1491096094][/doublepost]https://www.yahoo.com/news/body-missing-american-schoolgirl-isabel-203632881.html

It is not yet known how she died and the police chief would not release information about how her remains were discovered, but explained it was'not by happenstance'. Magnus said that police had pursued over 2,200 leads during their investigation into Isabel's disappearance and are now appealing to the public to come forward with any information that might assist their enquiries.

"We appreciate the fact that this case has been very traumatic.In fact, reverberations of this have gone well beyond Tucson and even Arizona, (and) have affected people throughout the country," he said.

"This is a very important step in the case, so that's one of the reasons why we're still asking the public if they have any leads. We believe there may still be folks out there who perhaps know something or feel now that they're willing to come forward with information."
 

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Snoods

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It is not yet known how she died and the police chief would not release information about how her remains were discovered, but explained it was'not by happenstance'.
So someone is finally talking. Someone told the police where to find Isabel's remains.
 

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Snoods

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I never thought they'd find her. After so long, I wonder what they can figure out from her body.
If she were strangled, maybe a broken hyoid bone in the neck. They would be able to find any healed or current (at the time of her death) fractured/broken bones or a fractured skull, and stab wounds or gunshot wounds if they hit a bone. Her skeleton may also be incomplete, it has been a long time. So maybe a lot, or maybe nothing, lol.
 

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Sugar Cookie

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The heavily redacted autopsy report for Isabel Celis was released Tuesday, Oct. 24, but it provides no new information about how the young Tucson girl died.

The report, which can be read HERE, confirms the child's death was a homicide and her remains were identified through DNA testing.

Isabel was only 6 years old when she disappeared from her bedroom under suspicious circumstances on Saturday, April 21, 2012. Over the years authorities worked through more than 2,200 leads, but the case went nowhere.
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/36670610/autopsy-report-reveals-little-about-death-of-isabel-celis
 

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crys_xoxo

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Man charged with killing 2 Arizona girls who went missing
https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-indicted-murder-charges-deaths-arizona-girls-173208113.html

TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) — A registered sex offender jailed since last year has been charged in the kidnapping and killing of two Arizona girls who went missing in 2012 and 2014, authorities announced Saturday.


Christopher Matthew Clements, 36, was indicted on Friday by a grand jury on 21 criminal counts, including murder and kidnapping charges in the deaths of 6-year-old Isabel Celis and 13-year-old Maribel Gonzalez, Tucson Police Chief Chris Magnus said.


Celis went missing from her Tucson home in April 2012, and her body was discovered in what was described as a rural area in March 2017.


Gonzalez' body was discovered in June 2014 in the Avra Valley community near Tucson, not far from where Celis' remains would be found three years later.
 

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Sugar Cookie

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A man charged with killing two young girls -- sat in court Monday -- as the parents of those girls -- sat through the hearing.

The parents of six year old Isabel Celis and 14 year old Maribel Gonzales -- watched as prosecutors and defense attorneys argued over defense efforts -- to throw out the heart of the case against Christopher Clements.

Christopher Clements attorneys are trying to convince Judge Deborah Bernini to throw out the murder and kidnapping indictments against him.

Clements is charged in the disappearance and death of both six year old Isabel Celis and 14 year old Maribel Gonzalez.

His lawyers argue prosecutors did not share information that might cast doubt on whether Clements should be indicted at all.

Part of the defense claim is that Isabel Celis father Sergio showed suspicious behavior Grand Jurors should have had more opportunity to consider.

Sergio Celis has never been charged in the case. He and Isabel's mother Becky Celis were both in the audience for this latest hearing but showed no strong reaction to seeing the man accused of killing their daughter.

It's not in dispute that Clements led investigators to Isabel Celis remains but never explained how he knew where they were.
 

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CentreAussie

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And all of this suspicion of the father.

Even in this thread.

I get it, most of the time it is one of parents.... just like most of the time it is the husband.

People put a lot of weight on how people are reacting in the moment. They say 'he seems too calm' or 'he should be more upset'.

During the greatest tragedies of my life, like the death, suicide and murder of my loved ones, I have been stone cold. When by grandfather, who was my only positive male role model died when I was 13, like when my drug dealer shit-head friend turned up in a ditch with his eyeballs popped and throat sliced open, like when one of my oldest friends hanged himself when I was 22. Like when my grandmother who died of leukemia after I cared for her for 5 years passed away. Like when I was raped when I was 6 years old.

There were zero tears, no crying. No hysteria. Nothing but shock and complete emotional emptiness. If you saw me, you'd think that I was feeling nothing, that I was a psychopath, lacking of all empathy and everything else that people think I should have been feeling. Nothing would be further from the truth.

If you every think to yourself that you know how somebody should be reacting when faced with tragedy, you're wrong. There is no 'correct' way to deal with these things.

Some people dissolve into a blubbering mess. Some people become hyper-analytical, some people go into shock and display no emotion at all. None of these reactions are 'wrong'.

If my best friend died tomorrow, I wouldn't shed a tear. That sounds fucked up. But I'd be dying inside, that's just how I deal with shit.

Don't judge people on their immediate reactions to horrific events. Life isn't a movie, it doesn't always play out neatly.
 

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cubby

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I have to say I agree with @CentreAussie. When my husband died I didn't cry, at least, not in front of people, my mother screamed at me, "What is wrong with you" I still cry sometimes in the middle of the night. Saturday was our 17th anniversary and I thought about him all day, but nothing on the outside. It really depends on the person and the way they react to everything. I don't fall apart in public.
 

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Muriel Schwenck

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It is often the media and witnesses reporting "weird behavior" more than police. Police & other first responders experience seemingly odd reactions every day and have experience the rest of us lack at discerning shock from something to hide.
 
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notchback

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I have to say I agree with @CentreAussie. When my husband died I didn't cry, at least, not in front of people, my mother screamed at me, "What is wrong with you" I still cry sometimes in the middle of the night. Saturday was our 17th anniversary and I thought about him all day, but nothing on the outside. It really depends on the person and the way they react to everything. I don't fall apart in public.
I'm a blubbering baby. I did a life sketch for my dad at his funeral. I barely made it through it. Glad I did it though.

Before he died, he asked me to dress him for burial. I didn't cry at all while doing that. After he was dressed and laying on the table, I saw the sweetest peaceful look I had ever seen on his face. That was an awesome experience, though I never want to do it again.
 

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