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Alf

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Vomiting, headaches and dizziness may result from too high a dose of MDMA. Some people are considerably more sensitive to MDMA than others. Be careful if you are using MDMA for the first time or using material of an unknown purity and strength. Always start low.
If reports surrounding 14-year-old Carson Crimeni's death are accurate, he did not start low during his last "Molly" trip. Instead, he started high, off-the-charts high, stunningly high, epically high. But not by choice.

The video poster, who posted the video taken while Carson was dying at the Walnut Grove Skateboard Park, Langley, BC, Canada, said he was "tweaking on molly", or intoxicated on MDMA. A later caption on the video read that Carson was "15 caps deep", or had taken fifteen capsules filled with MDMA. How much is that? A lot.

I looked for powders tested for, and verified to be, MDMA at EcstasyData.org. I found these weights on Page 1:
  • 100 mg
  • 100 mg
  • 100 mg
  • 230 mg (greatest weight)
  • 121 mg
  • 153 mg
  • 95 mg
  • 25 mg (lowest weight)
  • 100 mg
Using these weights as potential weights of MDMA in each capsule that Carson took, the minimum dose he could have taken is 375 mg. Erowid labels that as a "Heavy" dose, in excess of 200 mg. Erowid also reports that people "typically use MDMA [...] at levels of about 2.5 mg/kg or less". A 375 mg dose would be 2.5 mg/kg if Carson weighed 150 kg, or 330 pounds. And he was nowhere near that big.

Carson's father, Aron Crimeni, wants the teens that gave his son the drugs that killed him held responsible.

MDMA Vault at Erowid
Ecstasy Data
News Report
Another news report
One more of several news reports

--Al
 

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Sejanus

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Holy crap.
How do you even exact justice in a case like this?

Jailtime will be a joke if they are under age, plus comes with a clean record.
Vigilante time maybe.
 

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Sudonim

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How do you even exact justice in a case like this?
You dont?

You're Canadian..you know what goes on at skate parks and what kinds of kids hang out there lol The kid's parents admit they knew he was using soft drugs frequently. They let their kid hang out with a bunch of undesirables because "he wanted to fit in" and was being bullied. They admit to knowing he was depressed and struggling. They as his parents bare most of the responsibility and I get that it must weigh huge on them and they want to lash out at others, but in the end, they bare more responsibility than the kids at the park do.

He left the skate park on his own. How does one prove that the other kids knew he was ODing and that they didnt think he was just really fucked up? Who expects children to "parent" other kids while using drugs? Why should another kid be responsible for telling someone to stop when they think they might have done too much? Young kids arent known for making great decisions and while sad, he took the drugs on his own. No one forced it upon him.

The police cant even handle the investigation of his death, the IIO(Independent Investigations Office ) is, because the police were already looking for him when he OD'd.
 

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