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The judge in the trial of former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin criticized comments made by Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., over the weekend, calling them "disrespectful to the rule of law," but rejected a motion from the defense to use her rhetoric as grounds for a mistrial.

"I'm aware that Congresswoman Waters was talking specifically about this trial, and about the unacceptability of anything less than a murder conviction, and talk about being 'confrontational,' " Judge Peter Cahill said on Monday as the closing arguments wrapped up in the trial of Chauvin for the killing of George Floyd.

The case is now with the jury.

Cahill said he wished "elected officials would stop talking about this case" but said that the jury had been instructed not to watch the news and therefore Waters' comments could not prejudice the jury and warrant a mistrial.

"Beyond the articles that we're talking specifically about the facts of this case, a congresswoman's opinion really doesn't matter a whole lot," Cahill said.

He noted separately, however, that Waters may have provided the defense "something on appeal that may result in this whole trial being overturned."

Over the weekend, Waters spoke to the media during a demonstration in Brooklyn Center, Minn., miles away from the site of Chauvin's trial following protests over another police killing of a Black man: 20-year-old Daunte Wright.

"We've got to stay on the street and we've got to get more active, we've got to get more confrontational, we've got to make sure that they know we mean business," she said.

On Monday, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said Waters does not need to apologize for her comments.

"Maxine talked about confrontation in the manner of the civil rights movement," Pelosi told Capitol Hill reporters.

Following Pelosi's words of support, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., tweeted that Waters "broke the law by violating curfew and then incited violence" and vowed to introduce a resolution to censure Waters.

Such a resolution would likely be tabled by House Democrats.

 
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Officer Of The Law Derek Chauvin kept his knee on George Floyd's neck until any inhale of life's breath was no longer possible.

He did this in what looked to be a casual manner even with one hand in his pants pocket and no apparent concern that he was doing so in front of witnesses.

Witnesses who now feel guilt for not doing something, anything to have stopped Officer Chauvin from kneeing the life out of George Floyd.
 
Biden stuns political and legal experts by weighing in on Derek Chauvin verdict before jury makes decision
As the nation awaits a verdict by the jury in the trial of former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin, President Biden said on Tuesday he is "praying the verdict is the right verdict."

Briefly speaking with reporters at the White House, the president discussed his call on Monday with the family of George Floyd, the Black man in Minnesota who died after he was seen on video – handcuffed – saying "I can't breathe" as Chauvin kneeled on Floyd's neck. His death sparked nationwide protests last spring and summer over police brutality against minorities and systemic racism.
 
Interesting, seems all the dumbfucks earlier in this thread who were trying to explain away and excuse Chauvins murderous intent and actions were clearly in the wrong. What a surprise hahahahahhaahah!!!!!!!!

Bit confused by the verdict. How can you be guilty of 2nd degree murder as well as manslaughter? The definitions of these crimes seem to clash with one another.


What's stunning about this? Did all he say is "praying they get the right verdict"? So what?
 
Derek Chauvin is segregated from other inmates in state's most secure unit

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Derrrrr... I can't think why.

Former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin spent his first night in prison since his conviction for murdering George Floyd segregated from the other inmates, a Minnesota Department of Corrections spokeswoman said Wednesday.

Chauvin, found guilty Tuesday in connection with Floyd's death on May 25, is being housed under "administrative segregation" status for the fired Minneapolis police officer's own safety while being held at the Oak Park Heights Prison until sentencing in June, said agency spokeswoman Sarah Fitzgerald.

He is residing in the Administrative Control Unit, "the state's most secure unit," Fitzgerald said.

"Administrative segregation is used when someone's presence in the general population is a safety concern," she added.

Jurors in Hennepin County District Court found the 45-year-old Chauvin guilty on all counts — second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter.

Judge Peter Cahill read the verdicts at 4:07 p.m. Chauvin then had his bail revoked, was handcuffed behind his back and led out of the courtroom by sheriff's deputies.

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Derek Chauvin is segregated from other inmates in state's 'most secure unit'
 
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Someone explain three counts of murder vs one..

Technically it's only two counts of murder and one count of manslaughter. There are three counts because there were 3 different crimes:

1) causing the death of a human being, without intent, while committing or attempting to commit an assault (second-degree murder)

2) unintentionally causing a death by committing an act that is eminently dangerous to other persons while exhibiting a depraved mind, with reckless disregard for human life (third-degree murder)

3) and creating an unreasonable risk, by consciously taking the chance of causing death or great bodily harm to someone else (manslaughter).
 
Derek Chauvin will likely appeal his guilty verdict in George Floyd's murder but the odds aren't good.

Now that fired police officer Derek Chauvin has been convicted on all three counts against him, he can still file an appeal. But the odds are not good, considering some 90% of appeals are denied across the United States.

An appeal in the case is a virtual certainty. But what issues Chauvin's lawyers raise to the appellate court are an open question, according to criminal defense experts.

The appeal possibilities could include the possible bias of jurors, the refusal by Judge Peter Cahill to move the trial or sequester the jury, or what some experts are saying were questionable jury instructions on some of the charges Chauvin faced.

Chauvin could also argue ineffective assistance of counsel — a last option, in experts' opinions, but one that could rise because lead defense attorney Eric Nelson did not often object to emotional witness testimony.

But while nearly every conviction yields an appeal, their success rate is about 10% or lower. This could be further hindered by the fact that in Minnesota, the appellate court is filled with elected officials, who would be tasked with potentially overturning one of the most high-profile murder cases in American history.

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Derek Chauvin will likely appeal his guilty verdict in George Floyd's murder. But the odds aren't good.
 
Interesting comparison, and one of the biggest reasons why I don't think his conviction will stand.

 
Hat tip @Sugar Cookie

On Friday, Maryland Attorney General Brian Frosh and Governor Larry Hogan announced an independent review into all cases of in-custody deaths handled by Fowler.

The announcement comes after Fowler served as a controversial defense witness for Chauvin before the officer was convicted Tuesday on three counts of murdering Floyd.

During the trial, Fowler testified that he believed Floyd died in Chauvin's custody due to a sudden cardiac event caused by an underlying heart disease. Fowler cited multiple possible contributing factors to his death, such as drugs in his system and a potential exposure to carbon monoxide from vehicle exhaust.

Fowler argued that the manner of Floyd's death should be thus classified as "undetermined," despite testimony from numerous experts [....]

Dr. Roger Mitchell Jr., wrote an open letter calling for investigations into Fowler's medical license, along with a review of all past cases handled by Fowler during his career in Maryland, NPR reported.

"Dr. Fowler's stated opinion that George Floyd's death during active police restraint should be certified with an 'undetermined' manner is outside the standard practice and conventions for investigating and certification of in-custody deaths. This stated opinion raises significant concerns for his previous practice and management," the letter said.

The letter added that Fowler's testimony was "baseless, revealed obvious bias, and raised malpractice concerns," and stated: "Our disagreement with Dr. Fowler is not a matter of opinion. Our disagreement with Dr. Fowler is a matter of ethics."

The letter was sent to Frosh's office and signed by over 450 doctors from around the country, prompting the attorney general to announce an independent review of Fowler's work less than 24 hours later.

"We agree that it is appropriate for independent experts to review reports issued by the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner (OCME) regarding deaths in custody," Raquel Coombs, a spokeswoman for Frosh, said in statement to the Associated Press.

Fowler has since been scrutinized for ruling the deaths of several Black victims at the hands of Maryland police to be from "natural causes," including those of Anton Black and Tyrone West.
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On Friday, Fowler defended his office's work to The Baltimore Sun, and noted that he was not solely responsible for autopsy conclusions.

"There's a large team of forensic pathologists, with layers of supervision, and those medical examiners always did tremendous work," Fowler said Friday, while declining to discuss the Chauvin trial.

Newsweek contacted the Maryland attorney general's office for additional comment, but did not hear back in time for publication.

 
Guess it’s getting overturned, just too many issues

Chauvin juror who attended pre-trial rally may jeopardize guilty verdict

A juror in the Derek Chauvin trial may have jeopardized the guilty verdict by attending a rally last year and wearing a “Get Your Knee Off Our Necks/BLM” T-shirt, raising questions about whether he told the truth during jury selection
If [Mitchell] specifically was asked, ‘Have you ever participated in a Black Lives Matter demonstration,’ and he answered, ‘No,’ to that, I think that would be an important appealable issue,
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/may/3/brandon-mitchell-derek-chauvin-juror-who-attended-/
 
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