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3 Dead Babies Removed From Vermin Infested Home.

I can't find it, can you remind me where it is, I did look back thru but I can't find it. TIA
 
After the police got there the neighbor did say that she tried to clean the baby, but I'm guessing with the shit being longstanding, it was impossible under the circumstances inside that house.
 
cubby said:
After the police got there the neighbor did say that she tried to clean the baby, but I'm guessing with the shit being longstanding, it was impossible under the circumstances inside that house.
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I always think about that when I read these stories, I would imagine its almost too overwhelming and you wouldn't know where to begin. Most people don't ever see a dirty baby let alone one encrusted with filth.
 
The boyfriend needs to have his head checked and have criminal charges as well. No fucking way he shouldn't be responsible for the conditions of that home and even if he didn't think the kids were his, he's a fucking moron for not saying hey, why are these kids you are babysitting still here? Or why are they so neglected? Why is our house like an episode of hoarders? I'm taking the kids out of here, mine and these kids that were dumped on us since they were born? Or SOMETHING? Even the damn neighbor knew something was very wrong just looking at the house and kids ONE time!
 
The interview with the neighbor made me cry- she said the 911 operator insisted that she not pick up the children until the police arrived. When the police said it was ok, she picked up the baby girl & attempted to clean away some of the feces with her own shirt.

And then to have the momster shrug her shoulders & laugh when she later confronted her about the babies-- I would be in jail for murder right now!:punch:
 
Erika Murray, Mom In Dead Infants Case, In Prison Unit: Lawyer
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woman arrested after the bodies of three infants were found in the squalid, vermin-infested home where she lives is now in a prison treatment unit for inmates who could pose a danger to themselves, her lawyer said Monday
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Murray's court-appointed lawyer, Keith Halpern, said his client was placed in a treatment center at the state prison for women in Framingham that provides additional protection for those who could pose a suicide risk. Halpern has said repeatedly that he believes his client suffers from a mental illness, though he has not speculated on the nature of her condition.

"It's kind of obvious that many things going on in her head were not real,"
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Halpern said Monday he was skeptical whether forensic testing of the infants' remains could conclusively determine whether the babies were stillborn or died after birth. He maintained that he was hopeful the tests would reveal that no physical harm was inflicted on the infants to cause their deaths.
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No birth records existed for the two youngest living children,
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The boyfriend, Ramon Rivera, has not been charged in connection with the discovery of the infants' remains. Authorities have not commented on whether he was the father of any or all of the babies.

John Guilfoil,
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Blackstone police, said Monday that Rivera was charged with cultivating and possession of marijuana, stemming from an initial police visit to the home after a neighbor reported finding a baby covered in feces.
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Rivera was not home at the time and was not arrested. It wasn't immediately known if Rivera had an attorney.

Public records show the home was owned by Kristina Rivera, of Woonsocket, Rhode Island, who is believed to be related to Ramon Rivera.

William Walsh, chairman of Blackstone's health board, said crews hoped to finish decontaminating the house by Tuesday and removing debris that, according to officials, included mounds of dirty diapers.

The town already incurred cleanup costs of more than $20,000, and the bill could reach $30,000,
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Kristina Rivera had been served notice that the home was condemned but had not yet contacted town officials,
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adding that a tax lien could be placed on the property to help the town recover cleanup costs.

"This was so horrific that I don't think a homeowner could put their hands around even how they would attempt to clean this property,
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A phone number for Kristina Rivera could not be located.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/15/erika-murray_n_5825968.html?utm_hp_ref=crime
 
I think the only reason those two youngest kids are even alive is because the two older ones did what they knew how to do. This is just unreal.
 
How did she get the older kids to keep quiet about all this? The few times i have let mine be around the men I date I have to remind them that they do not need to discuss mommy farting or anything else that could be considered embarrassing!
 
thebooblady said:
How did she get the older kids to keep quiet about all this? The few times i have let mine be around the men I date I have to remind them that they do not need to discuss mommy farting or anything else that could be considered embarrassing!
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Especially considering they were 7 years old and 10 years old when she had the three year old, they would have been excited that a baby was in the house, at least at first.
 
thebooblady said:
How did she get the older kids to keep quiet about all this? The few times i have let mine be around the men I date I have to remind them that they do not need to discuss mommy farting or anything else that could be considered embarrassing!
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I even bribe my 2 when i go shopping at Target and they still tell on me. I wonder if she lied to her kids too, told them the babies were adopted.
 
China said:
I even bribe my 2 when i go shopping at Target and they still tell on me. I wonder if she lied to her kids too, told them the babies were adopted.
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Even then it'd be mommy has a baby. Mommy has dead animals. We have bugs and rats in our house. It smells there. The baby has poop on it. The baby can't walk. They never go outside. Mommy farted last night. Yeah, no damn way we'd keep those secrets in my house lol
 
Maybe because they had been coached since birth not to tell anything to anyone.

The neighbor had been taking care of the boy so long maybe he just finally felt ok enough with her to ask her for help.

ETA.. the whole thing is just unfathomable, I just read every update with my jaw dropped, I wonder if those kids will ever be even close to ok.
 
Basement boarder at Massachusetts house of horrors was 'mother's boyfriend and fathered the dead infants including one found with placenta'
  • Erika Murray, 31, was charged Friday with fetal death concealment after officials found bodies in her bug and rat-infested home in Blackstone
  • Boyfriend lived in basement and told police he was unaware of the squalor in the rest of the home - where three dead babies were found in closets
  • Four children - aged six months to 13 years - rescued two weeks ago
  • Remains of dead dog and cat removed; wall had to be knocked down due to feces contamination
  • Her lawyer said his client is mentally ill to have gone the lengths she did to hide her pregnancies
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...iend-fathered-dead-infants.html#ixzz3DS1pvV4M
 
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My mother is a very secretive with everything, sometimes the very people in the house didn't know stuff, all she had to do was look and you shut up. WE daren't tell anybody anything, sometimes you never knew what you could and could not talk about. Tho to her credit, it was never anything like this. She didn't want people to know that we were left home alone alot, me being the oldest was always the babysitter for my 3 younger siblings. We weren't allowed outside, answer the phone, talk to the neighbors, or anything when they weren't at home which was most of the time. It's horrible to think about but I understand how the kids didn't tell. I don't understand how the kids didn't reek from the smell of the house, that I don't understand.
 
The boyfriend is a fucking liar. He had to have fucked her in order to knock her up, and I don't care how much baggy clothes you wear, you can can't hide a pregnancy when you're having sex at 8 months.
 
China said:
The boyfriend is a fucking liar. He had to have fucked her in order to knock her up, and I don't care how much baggy clothes you wear, you can can't hide a pregnancy when you're having sex at 8 months.
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I'm thinking he new she was pregnant but, again I'm thinking he is either severaly mental impared and/or a complete brain dead junkie. I can see her telling him that she "lost" the baby towards the end of each pregnancy. If he was living in the basement its possible she only visited him down there. It all sounds so horrid and backwoods.

It doesn't surprise me that the two older kids never said anything. Children can be taught from birth to keep the secrets of home. I've seen it many times. Especially because the fear of losing the only home you have, no matter how house of horrors it is, is often scarier then staying where you are. Based on the mom's facebook it appears that she doted on the older two children. It's possible they could seperate the horrors of home from the mom who "loved" them.
 
Whisper said:
Boyfriend lived in basement and told police he was unaware of the squalor in the rest of the home - where three dead babies were found in closets
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How the fuck does that work? He never went upstairs where his girlfriend AND child(ren) lived? Right. I'm sure they all just always came down to the basement to visit him. Fucking dipshit.
 
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Reading all the articles and everything thing else, I am so disgusted...:(
How can someone live like that? Those poor kids....
Have they found out how the 3 babies died yet?
 
cubby said:
My mother is a very secretive with everything, sometimes the very people in the house didn't know stuff, all she had to do was look and you shut up. WE daren't tell anybody anything, sometimes you never knew what you could and could not talk about. Tho to her credit, it was never anything like this. She didn't want people to know that we were left home alone alot, me being the oldest was always the babysitter for my 3 younger siblings. We weren't allowed outside, answer the phone, talk to the neighbors, or anything
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Is your mother Irish?
 
China said:
I even bribe my 2 when i go shopping at Target and they still tell on me. I wonder if she lied to her kids too, told them the babies were adopted.
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I can't pinpoint the exact article (I've read so many on this case) but I remember reading that the older children were NOT AWARE THAT THE 2 YOUNGER CHILDREN WERE THEIR SIBLINGS! Isn't that unreal?!

IMO the older children kept quiet about the conditions in the home out of fear, embarrassment & loyalty.
My hubs grew up in an abusive, F'd up household & he always lied to cover for his family (he burned himself on the stove, his mom's not drugged out, she's just tired) Some of the stories he's told me could rival any story on here:(.
It's almost like the more loyal & defensive a child is about their family-- the more you can bet that there is something wrong at home!

@thebooblady cracked me up- my kids would sell me down the river in a second too! They think it's hysterical to 'tattle' on me to my mother (like when my 'homemade' cookies came from a log of pillsbury dough! IMO if I put them in the oven, I 'made' them!)
But I think it's because our kids feel safe & secure & don't have to fear being taken away or us going to jail if they tell the truth!

It becomes a sick bond of "us against the world" where the kids cling to the lies, and each other. Sibling rivalries tend to take a backseat when your huddled together in a house with no heat, eating raw spaghetti & wondering when moms gonna come home & beat the crap outta you!

So the next time your kid decides to tell their teacher that you wax your upper lip, or they're fighting with each other over who gets the big half of the cookie- Smile! It means you're doing a good job!:D
 
@Momzilla that reminded me of a story lol, This is going to make my friend mother out to be awful but I assure you she was and is on of the best people I have ever met, However lol.

When My friend was in kindergarten she told the teacher..My mom can roll a "cigarette" while driving with her knees..:hilarious:
 
cubby said:
Well let me see, my mother is red haired, blue eyed, tall and slim, freckled with pale skin and loves to yell and slap folks, if that makes her Irish, then yes, yes she is. LOL
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I knew it! So is my mother, every time you say something about your mother it reminds me of mine. The Irish loooove secrets, and talking shit about other people:shifty:
 
OMG YES! The mantra at my house was and really still is "Don't tell your Daddy!" When he couldn't have cared less most of the time as long as nobody was bothering him.:wideyed:
 
cubby said:
OMG YES! The mantra at my house was and really still is "Don't tell your Daddy!" When he couldn't have cared less most of the time as long as nobody was bothering him
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Wow!! they are the same. To this day my moms favorite words are "I have to tell you something, don't tell dad though" lol...and the lies she told, and then she thought everyone else was a lying all the time.

I can see these kids keeping a secret now that I think about it, my mother trained us to never tell and it was so engrained in me that it wasn't even a struggle to keep a secret.
 
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