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Satanica

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If we can even come up with half it would really help. We realize the timing sucks. My daughter-in-law created the Go Fund. Please share with others.

I didn’t give birth to him, but he’s my son in every way that matters. I’m a stay at home mom and a caregiver for the elderly on weekends. I was with him all day, everyday for nearly 2 years. He became a part of our family and we love him. I’m his learning coach for online school, so I’m his teacher as well. He was happy here.

Recently, I was forced to give him back to his father. His father did something horrific and unspeakable to him shortly after. He was taken to the hospital. Then entered into CPS custody and moved 4 hours away, where he is now treated like a prisoner and his father is free to roam the streets. His biological mom is on meth and has been arrested several times for it recently. We are the only people this boy has right now. Since we are not blood relatives CPS refused to give him to us, even though he has requested it.

We are filing for non parent custody. I have gotten the process started, but I need a lawyer on retainer to help me with the rest. Please help me to save him from this broken system. He’s suffered enough trauma. We just want to bring him home to us where he wants to be and where he belongs. Thank you for any help you can give us. If you can’t afford to help then pray for him. God Bless.

 
Thank you so much. Whatever anyone can afford, even if it's just moral support, is greatly appreciated.

Back when he was with us full time, he called my son and daughter-in-law his parents when talking to his friends. He had never had a sleep over or been to anyone else's house for one before living with us. No one helping him with school, etc. He was so happy.
 
Been there, done that, abeit distant relative and not non-blood individual. It's brutally difficult, expensive, and time consuming even for a blood relative to step in. Averaged about 5 family court appearances over 6-7 months to get each of the kids i was saddled with.

Curious, have the parental rights been terminated or is CPS still working towards reunification? Would this be an adoption or a conservatorship?

CPS's mandate is of course parental reunification. They often times do not care at all for ANYONE else's input or desires or care for the child. They often dont care about the child at all. They will do everything they can to appease and satiate the deadbeat, criminal stain parents first. It is not until the parent(s) fail to comply with whatever program CPS puts em on or in some manner makes abundantly clear, in a clear, repetitive nature, that they are never going to follow the game to get the kid back, that CPS will entertain placement with others.

A temp placement over foster should be an option though until the case runs its course. Honestly, even getting that far took me 4-5 months of effort and expense and numerous court appearances. For all the talk you hear about how cash strapped this system is and how scarce foster options are, my experience is CPS doesnt seem to feel it's THAT desperate or big of a deal. Youd think theyd jump at the option of a relative or well vetted close family friend, but they def do not. If anything, they go out of their way to make it as hard as possible to get that. The threshold for a placement like that on such a person is significantly higher than what the trash parent who lost the kid in the first place has to do for the state to get em back(not an exaggeration).

And yes, without a lawyer, nobody has a chance of sliding in.

Have they contacted the CASA involved? I would strongly recommend they do that, lawyer or no lawyer, and try to meet with the advocate directly dealing with the child. CPS of coruse doesnt prioritize the child, CASA does. CASA is the ones that actually care about the kid. Get in good with them, show them youre the best option for the kid, get them in the thick of it and on your side, and you have a HUGE weapon in your favor when/if CPS gets to the point where they decide the kid will NOT be placed back with the bio shithead. Very likely might be able to help them get in touch with the CPS caseworker and talk with them, explain their case, get some advice on how to move forward, explain what they need to ensure they have in the home if they want to even have a chance(number of bedrooms/beds/etc.), get contact info for the lawyer representing the kid in court(aka does jack shit except agree with whatever the CPS worker says and does no matter what) and even help arrange a home study or at least explain that process or how to get one done.

Be warned, home studies are tough. They go HARD at placement options, again harder than they go at the scumbag parent. They look, nitpick, dig, for ANYTHING that could potentially fail it, and it's not stuff youd even think like blatantly dangerous or suspect conditions, make sure your shit is beyond PERFECT. Ex, the sight of a gun-safe in the home somehwere could be enough to fail it, as even if it shows guns are locked up, it still shows there are guns in the home. I wouldnt even take that chance, this is the type of shit im talking about, literally ANYTHING can fail even a good/safe home. Gotta take away ALL doubt.

Id start accumulating letters from family/friends/coworkers.etc., as many as possible, relaying positive thoughts/views of the person and specifically their relationship with the child.

Lot you can do to help your cause even before getting the lawyer.

Id be interested in more info, what is the bio parents names, link to their criminal records/arrest warrants/stories of their crimes/etc. Not big on these things askin for money and saying there's vile criminals involved but showing a hesitance to put the criminal on full blast.
 
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As you are fundraising, its going to take a bit to reach your goal, (i will go give what i can in a minute) contact the court house in the county the boy is in and ask if they have a self help legal clinic.
If they do, go in there and get free help.
They will not go to court for you or with you. But what they will do is help you with all the proper filings.

Your next course of action is to ask both bio parents to let your DIL be his guardian.
Your next course is to open the phone book and start looking for an attorney that will represent your DIL pro bono.

Next
Various bar associations and legal aid organizations offer legal clinics as a way to provide free legal advice and handle intake for any pro bono or volunteer lawyer programs they operate. If you qualify, you can talk with a lawyer at a legal clinic for free. Some legal clinics are only for people with low-incomes.
https://texaslawhelp.org › article › p...
 
Thank you very much, caitierig! If we can get $3,500 together, they will start on the case. Usually, they want $5,000 to start, but I imagine the legal business has slowed down like everything else.
Best of luck-you’re doing something amazing for him and any lawyer with ethics (hah, what am I saying?!) will root for you guys and work with you
 
Done.

Your first goal is to raise $3,000 to get started. I must warn you, the attorney will gobble thru that in at breakneck speed. I doubt it will even get you a court date. But if it does he or she will demand more money before you get to court. This first $3,000 is all things you can accomplish on your own. Then when you actually get a court date, then immediately hire an attorney.
Attorneys charge hundreds of dollars an hour and they dont bill your file 15 minutes at a time.

For example: they make a phone call or take your phone call.
You talk for 10 minutes. Thats a 1hr charge.
 
As you are fundraising, its going to take a bit to reach your goal, (i will go give what i can in a minute) contact the court house in the county the boy is in and ask if they have a self help legal clinic.
If they do, go in there and get free help.
They will not go to court for you or with you. But what they will do is help you with all the proper filings.

Your next course of action is to ask both bio parents to let your DIL be his guardian.
Your next course is to open the phone book and start looking for an attorney that will represent your DIL pro bono.

Next
Various bar associations and legal aid organizations offer legal clinics as a way to provide free legal advice and handle intake for any pro bono or volunteer lawyer programs they operate. If you qualify, you can talk with a lawyer at a legal clinic for free. Some legal clinics are only for people with low-incomes.
https://texaslawhelp.org › article › p...

Good luck with getting help from the courthouse yourself. Ive always been told they legally can not provide me literally ANY information whatsoever. They couldnt tell me what form(s) i might need, how to file said form or who to file it to, how to get a certain resource, who i should be talking to instead of them(even if it was another govt entity), nothing. There were situations where I already knew that i needed something(like a certain form/type of paperwork), already knew WHAT i needed and why and everything else, but i just wasnt sure how to get it or who to send it to. The knowledge of what it was and all the legalese and reasoning behind it was already something i personally had, they were providing nothing along those lines. It was simply a, "go to this office to get this" or "take this to this office after you fill it out all on your own without our help" that i was after, and they could not tell me even that.

Hopefully others had less restrictive/more helpful county clerks and courthouses and whatnot, but my experience is you are 100% absolutely positively on your own with literally every single aspect no matter how seemingly minute or insignificant. Get good at searching shit on the internet or pay up for a professional, cuz the legal world is pitch black otherwise, completely pitch black.

But yeah if either parent still has rights, CPS will take their word damn near as the fucking law. CPS bends over backwards to that extent for the scumbags they serve. If the trash parents vouch and say they want their kid with you, that will got a LONG way, may even be enough all on its own(long as you pass a homestudy) to get you temp placement. It may not even require a lawyer helping you get your foot rammed thru the door to get a temp placement if the parent is cooperating with CPS and tells them, "i want my kid placed with so and so".

Be careful though, cuz if they already are at the point where CPS is ready to recommend termination, and the scumbag parent starts talkin you up, it could send the message that you are too close or too friendly with the scumbag, one of those "you can judge a boy by his friends, and all of mine are trash" type of deals. Worries about whether you are inclined to bring them around the kid may arise. Just be sure to make clear any time you communicate with the State that you wish to provide stability/safety and would never permit the scumbag bio's anywhere near the kid ever again.

You most def have to "game" the system a little bit when it comes to how you communicate, can't be TOO critical/negative certainly not on a personal level, can't be too wishy washy or nice in the other extreme either. Really gotta control your thoughts/communications so as to tell the courts and CPS what sounds best given the specifics of the current situation, at its specific point in time. I've known people who failed a home study cuz their relationship with the abusive, neglectful parent(who still had rights though, so theyre CPS's crown jewel still) was TOO contentious. The belief was that it could lead to potential disruptions or even harm if the child was placed with someone who was at such extreme odds and had such difficulties with the bio. Again, perfect loving stable home, nothing wrong with it whatsoever, EXCEPT the person made known how lowly they thought of the scum that hurt the kid.

I must warn you, the attorney will gobble thru that in at breakneck speed. I doubt it will even get you a court date. But if it does he or she will demand more money before you get to court. This first $3,000 is all things you can accomplish on your own. Then when you actually get a court date, then immediately hire an attorney.

If you run into this problem, that attorney you hired is a scheister piece of shit and you need to leave endless negative reviews everywhere you can find to leave them to run em into the mud. That's pretty outrageous. Def do your research before hiring one to find out exactly what they do, are they highly rated, even pose the question to find out EXACTLY what the retainer covers to make sure you dont get screwed over like this.

You arent hiring an attorney solely for some advice. You are hiring an attorney to help you get custody of the kid. The retainer should cover everything required. Find out the entire strategy and what the plan is before handing the dollars over.

BTW, if the CPS case is still ongoing, it won't be possible to get a separate court date/appearance for you. ANd even if they did get something separate, it would be pointless, cuz no Judge is going to do anything if the state already has some active involvement going on with the kid/bio parent. Anything that happens will have to be decided by CPS/family court judge currently involved and will happen during the regular/ongoing family court hearings(dont know how your state does em, but where i've been these were usually monthly, scheduled hearings for ongoing CPS precedings in the county). Keep in mind, this is the State vs the parents at this point, anyone else involved is on the sideline and while you can def do some good getting facetime with the judge and making yuoruself look good for when/if placement and/or termination time comes, you are just a tertiary afterthought if that at this point. Nobody gives a shit about you, not yet, it is between the State and the parents, with the goal being to help the parents every single way possible.

The attorney will need to file some shit to get you added into the mix as an interested party/interceder on the kids behalf in the ongoing CPS case with the state. Not sure how the law works with a non-relative though, def one of the many reasons a lawyer unfortunately is a necessity. UNLESS rights have already been terminated, then you can ignore much of the above. There's other shit of course if CPS is no longer in the picture.

Attorneys charge hundreds of dollars an hour and they dont bill your file 15 minutes at a time.

With my family court shit, attorneys had a lump charge where they sorta estimated the likely hours the case would require and gave me a total to pay from the start. Def expect anywhere from 3 to 6 grand usually, although of course there's some prob chargin less and some more. That money covered the whole shibang. If an attorney halfway through or really at any point before the case is settled tries to hit you up for more money, that's a mighty shitbag scheister attorney.

A phone call or meeting when we had a question about something did not equate to extra money owed. Some of the cases lasting 9 or 10 months did not entail extra money owed. Again, that initial retainer paid should cover it all, if you have an honest, decent lawyer.
 
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@JackBurton
I dont know about where you live, but all 3 counties i have lived in which is 2 in calif. And 1 in minnesota has self help legal centers.
Located right in the courthouse.
The clerks at the counter where you pick up papers and file them will not help you at all. They wont even shuffle the papers into the correct order. Just hand them back and tell you they are out of order.
 
Been there, done that, abeit distant relative and not non-blood individual. It's brutally difficult, expensive, and time consuming even for a blood relative to step in. Averaged about 5 family court appearances over 6-7 months to get each of the kids i was saddled with.

Curious, have the parental rights been terminated or is CPS still working towards reunification? Would this be an adoption or a conservatorship?

CPS's mandate is of course parental reunification. They often times do not care at all for ANYONE else's input or desires or care for the child. They often dont care about the child at all. They will do everything they can to appease and satiate the deadbeat, criminal stain parents first. It is not until the parent(s) fail to comply with whatever program CPS puts em on or in some manner makes abundantly clear, in a clear, repetitive nature, that they are never going to follow the game to get the kid back, that CPS will entertain placement with others.

A temp placement over foster should be an option though until the case runs its course. Honestly, even getting that far took me 4-5 months of effort and expense and numerous court appearances. For all the talk you hear about how cash strapped this system is and how scarce foster options are, my experience is CPS doesnt seem to feel it's THAT desperate or big of a deal. Youd think theyd jump at the option of a relative or well vetted close family friend, but they def do not. If anything, they go out of their way to make it as hard as possible to get that. The threshold for a placement like that on such a person is significantly higher than what the trash parent who lost the kid in the first place has to do for the state to get em back(not an exaggeration).

And yes, without a lawyer, nobody has a chance of sliding in.

Have they contacted the CASA involved? I would strongly recommend they do that, lawyer or no lawyer, and try to meet with the advocate directly dealing with the child. CPS of coruse doesnt prioritize the child, CASA does. CASA is the ones that actually care about the kid. Get in good with them, show them youre the best option for the kid, get them in the thick of it and on your side, and you have a HUGE weapon in your favor when/if CPS gets to the point where they decide the kid will NOT be placed back with the bio shithead. Very likely might be able to help them get in touch with the CPS caseworker and talk with them, explain their case, get some advice on how to move forward, explain what they need to ensure they have in the home if they want to even have a chance(number of bedrooms/beds/etc.), get contact info for the lawyer representing the kid in court(aka does jack shit except agree with whatever the CPS worker says and does no matter what) and even help arrange a home study or at least explain that process or how to get one done.

Be warned, home studies are tough. They go HARD at placement options, again harder than they go at the scumbag parent. They look, nitpick, dig, for ANYTHING that could potentially fail it, and it's not stuff youd even think like blatantly dangerous or suspect conditions, make sure your shit is beyond PERFECT. Ex, the sight of a gun-safe in the home somehwere could be enough to fail it, as even if it shows guns are locked up, it still shows there are guns in the home. I wouldnt even take that chance, this is the type of shit im talking about, literally ANYTHING can fail even a good/safe home. Gotta take away ALL doubt.

Id start accumulating letters from family/friends/coworkers.etc., as many as possible, relaying positive thoughts/views of the person and specifically their relationship with the child.

Lot you can do to help your cause even before getting the lawyer.

Id be interested in more info, what is the bio parents names, link to their criminal records/arrest warrants/stories of their crimes/etc. Not big on these things askin for money and saying there's vile criminals involved but showing a hesitance to put the criminal on full blast.
Well, guess I’ll come out and say it. I’m Satanica’s daughter-in-law. I don’t put him on full blast (as much as I’d LOVE to do that because I hate him to the depths of my soul) because he has not been tried yet. They moved his trial date back every month for the last year and a half and I don’t want him trying to file defamation or use it against me in some way in court later. I’d be happy to tell you what you asked for. I just can’t be public about it. I also want to give the child a normal chance at life if he does go to us and don’t want his name all over the Internet. Mother is on meth. Arrested in feb 2018 and in March 2020. (I have her mug shot) Father was arrested for molesting step daughter a year and a half ago. He asked us to take his son because we’d known him (or so I thought) for years. I honestly didn’t know what to think because of the conversation I had with the daughter when I was taking care of her during the summer and the texts I saw from mom. I thought mom was trying to be vindictive, but now I think she knew all along and allowed it to go on. I tried to convince him to sign over power of attorney anyway and he never would. I didn’t want the boy to end up in foster care so we took him in.

The fucker got his bond agreement changed and I had to give him back or it’s kidnapping. I filed for a SAPCR this Monday and got the ball rolling. I have legal standing in the state of Texas. I just have to be faster than those CPS fuckers. I suspect they’re gonna sit on their hands for 6 months so they can get the jurisdiction changed. Fuck that. I want my son back. He is my child regardless of his womb donor, who btw, we haven’t seen hide not hair of in the year and a half he’s been with us. Also, thank you for the tip on CASA Jack. I really appreciate it. I can prove he was with us. I can prove my husband and I acted as his parents. I can get, at the very least 20 people as character witnesses with written statements. Some of whom have already agreed to it. I made the GoFundMe. The child has requested to be placed with us. CPS ignored all of that. I’m livid. I feel helpless, I feel sick, I feel rage. I feel so many things I can’t even put into words, and I’m trying everything I can to bring him home where he wants to be, has requested to be. His other family members are protecting dad. I’m really terrified that they will end up with him and allow him to be abused. I can’t stand for that. I WON’T. That child has light in him. He’s a respectful, good, kind, hardworking, and honest soul. I don’t want that to be snuffed out. He doesn’t deserve to be a prisoner while his father is free as a fucking bird. Asking for fucking permission to pee, to shower, to leave his room. He doesn’t understand why. I can’t eat. I can’t sleep. I have to pretend it’s going to be ok, even if I doubt that sometimes. I have to stay strong for him and my biological kids that love and miss him. The world is a cruel and ugly place.
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Done.

Your first goal is to raise $3,000 to get started. I must warn you, the attorney will gobble thru that in at breakneck speed. I doubt it will even get you a court date. But if it does he or she will demand more money before you get to court. This first $3,000 is all things you can accomplish on your own. Then when you actually get a court date, then immediately hire an attorney.
Attorneys charge hundreds of dollars an hour and they dont bill your file 15 minutes at a time.

For example: they make a phone call or take your phone call.
You talk for 10 minutes. Thats a 1hr charge.
Best of luck-you’re doing something amazing for him and any lawyer with ethics (hah, what am I saying?!) will root for you guys and work with you
Thank you. That was so generous.
 
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@JackBurton
you run into this problem, that attorney you hired is a scheister piece of shit
I did complain.
I complained a lot.
But it did nothing.

Here she is.


Towards the end of our custody battle, it became obvious to the judge and the mediator that my ex was making shit up to keep the case going. He had some almost free attorney so he didnt care to let the case end.
I had already paid $35,000.00 and had a bal of $10,000 the judge ordered my ex to pay the rest of my balance. Of course he didnt and that bitch turned me over to a collection agency. I called her up and she said she didnt care about that order, she had a contract with me.
When the collection agency kept calling me, i told them the whole story. He must have believed me.
The collection bills stopped coming.
 
If there is actual charges on the table, it's def not defamation to publicize that.

Anyways, just to get this straight, you had some sort of custody or at least an arrangement with the scumbags and was raising the kid for a decent chunk of time. Then the dad asked for him back. Then shortly after getting the kid back, shit went south and CPS pulled the kid.

CPS is supposed to go family placement option first, if available. Odd the kid ended up in foster care unless the family members are all trash as well, or the dad said, "dont give him to them".

Does this scumbag have some grudge against you over something? Odd they wouldnt ask him who he wants the kid with, and that he wouldn't tell them to give him back to you folks, unless he has a grudge.

I had one of mine in texas, and that's exactly how it went down. Pulled the kid from the mom, temp placement with another relative. Mom got pissed at this relative, made some complaints, so CPS had no choice but to pull him. Mom was asked if there was anyone else she would want him with, any other family, she said, "fuck all my relatives, id rather the kid be in foster care" and so that's what CPS did. Make no mistake, the parents hold the cards and make the rules. If the dad in your situation had said he wanted em with you, it woulda happened. There is some major scumbaggery and sounds like very personal animosity afoot on his end for sure. Makes things harder at first, but that actually can work in your favor. What parent who claims to care about their kid would rather the kid be in foster care than with people it knows and loves and can trust, especially if the person has already raised them a significant portion of their life? Something to bring up/mention incessantly if/when you have to talk in front of a judge or with CPS or anyone else involved.

@JackBurton
I dont know about where you live, but all 3 counties i have lived in which is 2 in calif. And 1 in minnesota has self help legal centers.
Located right in the courthouse.
The clerks at the counter where you pick up papers and file them will not help you at all. They wont even shuffle the papers into the correct order. Just hand them back and tell you they are out of order.

I dont think i would have even been told shit was out of order haha. Prob woulda filed it as i gave it to em and told me later it all went into a shredder cuz it didnt meet whatever regulation dictates how it's ordered.

Ive only dealt with fairly podunk type of places. Wish there had been some help center.

@JackBurton

I did complain.
I complained a lot.
But it did nothing.

Here she is.


Towards the end of our custody battle, it became obvious to the judge and the mediator that my ex was making shit up to keep the case going. He had some almost free attorney so he didnt care to let the case end.
I had already paid $35,000.00 and had a bal of $10,000 the judge ordered my ex to pay the rest of my balance. Of course he didnt and that bitch turned me over to a collection agency. I called her up and she said she didnt care about that order, she had a contract with me.
When the collection agency kept calling me, i told them the whole story. He must have believed me.
The collection bills stopped coming.

Wow that is one trash attorney. Even legally i would think her beef should be with the other party. What trash.

OF course you would have never had any recourse, however hopefully leaving bad reviews everywhere might save someone else from using her(and prevent her from making a buck here and there after potential clients do a little research). That's the only point in complaining/leavin poor reviews online and so forth, to poison the well and hopefully get others to take note and not use em.


I feel so many things I can’t even put into words, and I’m trying everything I can to bring him home where he wants to be, has requested to be. His other family members are protecting dad. I’m really terrified that they will end up with him and allow him to be abused. I can’t stand for that. I WON’T.

This is another reason you need a lawyer and you need to do everything legally possible to get your face in front of everyone in the upcoming CPS/family court hearings. Get this concern out there and keep it out there. You are fighting not just to get him out of foster care, not just to get custody, but also to keep others from getting custody. It's a multi-pronged battle and you need to be very vocal. His family members involved will have a very difficult time passing a home study if there is legit reason to believe the family might bring the kid around him.

This is another reason why it's great to get in good with CASA. CPS consults with CASA before any placements(should be anyways) and if they don't judges often do(should be anyways) and if they arent the kids court apointed attorney definitely fucking should be. CASA is all volunteer but their opinions and views tend to carry a very significant amount of weight with everybody in family court. Get in good with them, make them think you are the best, most loving, stable, logical awesome spot for the kid, while at the same time making THEM just as concerned with everyone else potentially involved. Poison the well.

Also, dont expect anybody to help you along. I had been in numerous family court hearings, in front of the judge, chiming in how we wanted to be considered a placement option. Several months went by without anything happening. Turns out, nobody was even considering us until we had a homestudy, however nobody offered or discussed a homestudy with us. We had no idea about anything. CPS whines incessantly about scarce resources, no foster home availability, that type of bullshit, but then seemingly goes out of their way to not pursue other placement options. Guess who was the only folks involved that provided any assistance or even talked to us at all about this or how to go about getting a placement? It was the CASA office. They actually approached us just out of curiosity after seeing us in court so many times asking us questions to gauge what the situation was. This isn't their job by any stretch, yet that's who actually hooked us up, explained to us what needed to be done and how if we wanted to be even considered. We had a temp placement in 2 months. I cant say enough good things about my experiences with them, in several different cases.

Always possible to get a "bad" one, but given it's a volunteer position and given the role played, i cant imagine anybody taking all that on unless they 100% legit, genuinely love kids and legit want the best for em....unlike CPS.
 
Well, guess I’ll come out and say it. I’m Satanica’s daughter-in-law. I don’t put him on full blast (as much as I’d LOVE to do that because I hate him to the depths of my soul) because he has not been tried yet. They moved his trial date back every month for the last year and a half and I don’t want him trying to file defamation or use it against me in some way in court later. I’d be happy to tell you what you asked for. I just can’t be public about it. I also want to give the child a normal chance at life if he does go to us and don’t want his name all over the Internet. Mother is on meth. Arrested in feb 2018 and in March 2020. (I have her mug shot) Father was arrested for molesting step daughter a year and a half ago. He asked us to take his son because we’d known him (or so I thought) for years. I honestly didn’t know what to think because of the conversation I had with the daughter when I was taking care of her during the summer and the texts I saw from mom. I thought mom was trying to be vindictive, but now I think she knew all along and allowed it to go on. I tried to convince him to sign over power of attorney anyway and he never would. I didn’t want the boy to end up in foster care so we took him in.

The fucker got his bond agreement changed and I had to give him back or it’s kidnapping. I filed for a SAPCR this Monday and got the ball rolling. I have legal standing in the state of Texas. I just have to be faster than those CPS fuckers. I suspect they’re gonna sit on their hands for 6 months so they can get the jurisdiction changed. Fuck that. I want my son back. He is my child regardless of his womb donor, who btw, we haven’t seen hide not hair of in the year and a half he’s been with us. Also, thank you for the tip on CASA Jack. I really appreciate it. I can prove he was with us. I can prove my husband and I acted as his parents. I can get, at the very least 20 people as character witnesses with written statements. Some of whom have already agreed to it. I made the GoFundMe. The child has requested to be placed with us. CPS ignored all of that. I’m livid. I feel helpless, I feel sick, I feel rage. I feel so many things I can’t even put into words, and I’m trying everything I can to bring him home where he wants to be, has requested to be. His other family members are protecting dad. I’m really terrified that they will end up with him and allow him to be abused. I can’t stand for that. I WON’T. That child has light in him. He’s a respectful, good, kind, hardworking, and honest soul. I don’t want that to be snuffed out. He doesn’t deserve to be a prisoner while his father is free as a fucking bird. Asking for fucking permission to pee, to shower, to leave his room. He doesn’t understand why. I can’t eat. I can’t sleep. I have to pretend it’s going to be ok, even if I doubt that sometimes. I have to stay strong for him and my biological kids that love and miss him. The world is a cruel and ugly place.
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Thank you. That was so generous.
You guys can do this, it will take time and money but it’s not impossible. I’ve seen a couple successful cases like this when I was with the law office. We will be donating again after we get paid, this is one of the best causes I could ever think of.
 
If there is actual charges on the table, it's def not defamation to publicize that.

Anyways, just to get this straight, you had some sort of custody or at least an arrangement with the scumbags and was raising the kid for a decent chunk of time. Then the dad asked for him back. Then shortly after getting the kid back, shit went south and CPS pulled the kid.

CPS is supposed to go family placement option first, if available. Odd the kid ended up in foster care unless the family members are all trash as well, or the dad said, "dont give him to them".

Does this scumbag have some grudge against you over something? Odd they wouldnt ask him who he wants the kid with, and that he wouldn't tell them to give him back to you folks, unless he has a grudge.

I had one of mine in texas, and that's exactly how it went down. Pulled the kid from the mom, temp placement with another relative. Mom got pissed at this relative, made some complaints, so CPS had no choice but to pull him. Mom was asked if there was anyone else she would want him with, any other family, she said, "fuck all my relatives, id rather the kid be in foster care" and so that's what CPS did. Make no mistake, the parents hold the cards and make the rules. If the dad in your situation had said he wanted em with you, it woulda happened. There is some major scumbaggery and sounds like very personal animosity afoot on his end for sure. Makes things harder at first, but that actually can work in your favor. What parent who claims to care about their kid would rather the kid be in foster care than with people it knows and loves and can trust, especially if the person has already raised them a significant portion of their life? Something to bring up/mention incessantly if/when you have to talk in front of a judge or with CPS or anyone else involved.



I dont think i would have even been told shit was out of order haha. Prob woulda filed it as i gave it to em and told me later it all went into a shredder cuz it didnt meet whatever regulation dictates how it's ordered.

Ive only dealt with fairly podunk type of places. Wish there had been some help center.



Wow that is one trash attorney. Even legally i would think her beef should be with the other party. What trash.

OF course you would have never had any recourse, however hopefully leaving bad reviews everywhere might save someone else from using her(and prevent her from making a buck here and there after potential clients do a little research). That's the only point in complaining/leavin poor reviews online and so forth, to poison the well and hopefully get others to take note and not use em.




This is another reason you need a lawyer and you need to do everything legally possible to get your face in front of everyone in the upcoming CPS/family court hearings. Get this concern out there and keep it out there. You are fighting not just to get him out of foster care, not just to get custody, but also to keep others from getting custody. It's a multi-pronged battle and you need to be very vocal. His family members involved will have a very difficult time passing a home study if there is legit reason to believe the family might bring the kid around him.

This is another reason why it's great to get in good with CASA. CPS consults with CASA before any placements(should be anyways) and if they don't judges often do(should be anyways) and if they arent the kids court apointed attorney definitely fucking should be. CASA is all volunteer but their opinions and views tend to carry a very significant amount of weight with everybody in family court. Get in good with them, make them think you are the best, most loving, stable, logical awesome spot for the kid, while at the same time making THEM just as concerned with everyone else potentially involved. Poison the well.

Also, dont expect anybody to help you along. I had been in numerous family court hearings, in front of the judge, chiming in how we wanted to be considered a placement option. Several months went by without anything happening. Turns out, nobody was even considering us until we had a homestudy, however nobody offered or discussed a homestudy with us. We had no idea about anything. CPS whines incessantly about scarce resources, no foster home availability, that type of bullshit, but then seemingly goes out of their way to not pursue other placement options. Guess who was the only folks involved that provided any assistance or even talked to us at all about this or how to go about getting a placement? It was the CASA office. They actually approached us just out of curiosity after seeing us in court so many times asking us questions to gauge what the situation was. This isn't their job by any stretch, yet that's who actually hooked us up, explained to us what needed to be done and how if we wanted to be even considered. We had a temp placement in 2 months. I cant say enough good things about my experiences with them, in several different cases.

Always possible to get a "bad" one, but given it's a volunteer position and given the role played, i cant imagine anybody taking all that on unless they 100% legit, genuinely love kids and legit want the best for em....unlike CPS.
Actually dad did request that he be placed with us according to CPS. 20 years ago, my husband got into an altercation. It was self defense, but without money for a lawyer it ended up as deferred adjudicated felony. Never in trouble before that or after. That was the dumbass reason they cited for not placing him with us. On a side note, I was praying really hard last night and then I got a notification that the pos mother was on google duo so I called her. (I sent her a message on FB when this all happened too. No answer.) As soon as she saw my face she hung up. I left a voice message and then another one. No answer. So she clearly doesn’t give a fuck. Thanks again Jack.
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You guys can do this, it will take time and money but it’s not impossible. I’ve seen a couple successful cases like this when I was with the law office. We will be donating again after we get paid, this is one of the best causes I could ever think of.
Thank you so much. That means a lot.
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Also, I did call casa, but I had to leave a message because they are closed until further notice, but says they’re returning calls.
 
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20 years ago, my husband got into an altercation. It was self defense, but without money for a lawyer it ended up as deferred adjudicated felony. Never in trouble before that or after. That was the dumbass reason they cited for not placing him with us.

Yikes. You got a major uphill battle then for sure.

Also, I did call casa, but I had to leave a message because they are closed until further notice, but says they’re returning calls. Guess we’ll see.

Didnt even think of how china virus was effecting things. Maybe try and inquire about talking to the kids casa advocate via like facebook videomessenger or skype. Id think somethingl ike that might go a way to show how interested you are/how much you care. A face to face(even if across the net) conversation would drive home a personal connection that mere emails or phone calls cant.
 
Well I have some good news! I talked to his CPS case worker and they are trying to place him with us!!! Haven’t heard from legal aid yet this week, but I’m hoping we’ll get lucky and we won’t need them if they’ll place him with us per his own request. His father now has a warrant out for his arrest and it will be no bond!
 
Well I have some good news! I talked to his CPS case worker and they are trying to place him with us!!! Haven’t heard from legal aid yet this week, but I’m hoping we’ll get lucky and we won’t need them if they’ll place him with us per his own request. His father now has a warrant out for his arrest and it will be no bond!

This guardianship/conservatorship and youre set or is this just a placement while CPS tries to work their bullshit to reunite with the scumbag parent if possible?
 
If they don't terminate rights, push for child support from the scum. You likely wont ever see a dime, but it's a fun thing to stick the scumbags with. Not to mention, if someone owes back child support and they ever do work and perhaps have some tax refund coming there way, guess who gets it? Not them! haha, or these recent stimulus checks, specific example but still, lot of deadbeat parents getting fucked on those! It's fantastic.

They should terminate if the fuck is facing a charge like that.

Also, did this happen without a lawyer or did you end up having to pay for one? If not, what of the gofundme donations?
 
The donations will be returned as soon as we know he's coming back to us. If we need money for anything else, we will start a new fund.

We've had to replace shoes and clothes, and we may need to replace the laptop he uses for school and his xbox. The CPS case worker is going to try to get them and will get a court order if bad dad doesn't do it voluntarily, but those are things we can manage on our own if we do have to buy them. Next year, we'll be buying him a car after he gets his license. We will do everything we would do if he was a blood relative. I have no idea if we will receive any assistance from the state, and we're not worried about it.
 
Next year, we'll be buying him a car after he gets his license.

The fuck? Make the lazyass work and buy his own used junker. A rough, traumatic childhood is no reason to take it easy on a kid and spoil them with shit.

I have no idea if we will receive any assistance from the state, and we're not worried about it.

If they terminate rights and an adoption is possible, the state gives a nice handout for that, at least they used to.

My experiences was that mere guardianship gets you jackshit. While the kid is in foster care, the state of course pays out big bucks for him. As soon as the state decides parental reunification is no longer the direction and places a kid with a suitable guardian/conservator, the state washes their hands of the situation, that's it, you're on your own.
 
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