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"A body believed to be a missing 5-year-old Utah girl was found Wednesday less than a block from her home, bringing a wide-ranging search to a grim close five days after the child was taken from her home and killed by her uncle, police said.

The body believed to be Elizabeth "Lizzy" Shelley was found hidden under trees and brush after 21-year-old Alex Whipple told his lawyer where he had hidden her, Logan Police Chief Gary Jensen said."
 
i hope they dont put him in protective custody but if they do i hope the guards torture him and maybe even let some other prisoners have some fun with him when "nobody" is looking. I wish that was the reality. If I ever was a warden for a prison I would have sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much fun:punch:
 
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The family of Alex Whipple points to his troubled childhood as a possible motive into why he murdered his 5-year-old niece, Elizabeth Shelley.

“Alex’s mother walked out on him and his siblings at a young age and he never got over that,” Bill Whipple, Alex’s grandfather said. “I think he wanted to hurt the family — he wanted to lash out and this was perhaps his whole motive.”

Bill Whipple said although his 21-year-old grandson has had a very difficult life of crime, drug abuse and homelessness, the family never expected he would commit such a heinous crime.

“We never, never thought he would be a murderer,” he said. “We were just blindsided.”

He said his troubled grandson’s criminal history ramped up in 2017 when he let him stay at his Providence home while he was out of town.

“He ransacked my house, stole stuff from me and hawked it then he went across the street to my neighbors and stole their car,” he said.

Bill Whipple said his grandson ended up in Brigham City and just two weeks ago reached out to his sister, Lizzy’s mother, for help. She picked him up and brought him to Logan.

“It was a fateful, fateful thing and she has beaten herself for it,” Bill Whipple said.

He believes his grandson was depressed but in denial of his mental health issues.

“He would not accept any help,” he said. “We tried, I told him many times. He looked at me one day and said, ‘grandpa, am I crazy’ and I said ‘yes, I believe you have problems.’”
 
Whipple, 21, who has been the main suspect in the girl's disappearance, also was charged with a count of child kidnapping, two counts of obstruction of justice and a count of desecration of a body, said Jensen.

"We don't have a motive at this point," the chief told reporters.
Jensen said that a deal was reached with the Cache County Attorney's Office to take the death penalty off the table, in exchange for information that would lead to the girl's body.

The suspect, located by police hours after Elizabeth vanished, gave investigators conflicting versions of his whereabouts the previous night, the documents said. At one point, he left a police interview room and "began licking his hands" and trying to wipe them clean.

So no matter what he did to this baby he will not get death.
 
An online petition has been launched calling on Utah prosecutors to break their agreement with a murder suspect accused of killing his five-year-old niece and seek the death penalty against him.

The body of Elizabeth 'Lizzy' Shelley was found on Wednesday less than a block from her home in Salt Lake City after her 21-year-old uncle, Alex Whipple, led police to the dirt-covered body following a five-day search.

Whipple, who has been charged with murder, provided a map showing the location of Shelley's body in exchange for prosecutors taking the death penalty off the table, Logan Police Chief Gary Jensen said.

But the deal between prosecutors and Whipple, which was reached with the blessing of Shelley's family, has left many in the community outraged.

As of Friday afternoon, more than 9,100 people have signed the petition, and counting.

Cache County Attorney James Swink told KSL-TV in an interview on Thursday that before agreeing to take the death penalty off the table, he reached out to Lizzy's mother, who told him that the family's top priority was to bring her daughter home.

'Without the weather conditions, where they’ve been unseasonably cool, and the location of her body her body would not have been found in such a good condition,' Swink explained.

He stressed that the decision to remove the threat of capital punishment was not taken lightly.

'With that said, we will seek the harshest penalties possible that’s available to us, which will now be life without the possibility of parole,' he said.
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No sympathy for the scumbag parents. THey knew the uncle was a criminal shitstain and therefore SHOULD have known he was dangerous. They invited him into the home and around the kid anyways. VILE. They should be charged as well.
 
Prosecutors have filed new sexual assault charges against a Utah man accused in the death of his 5-year-old niece.

Authorities say additional evidence from the state crime lab led to the counts of child rape and sodomy filed Wednesday against 21-year-old Alex Whipple.

Police say he killed Elizabeth "Lizzy" Shelley on May 25, after his sister let him spend the night at the family home.
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He looks like pure evil.
 
View attachment 18529He looks like pure evil.

This falls under the "special circumstances" that most states would use to try for the DP.
Since this is "new evidence", ie: the suspect/uncle didn't tell police about during his plea deal negotiations, it should be sufficient cause for the prosecution to acknowledge that he broke his end of the plea deal, and proceed with the highest charges they can under the law.
 
This falls under the "special circumstances" that most states would use to try for the DP.
Since this is "new evidence", ie: the suspect/uncle didn't tell police about during his plea deal negotiations, it should be sufficient cause for the prosecution to acknowledge that he broke his end of the plea deal, and proceed with the highest charges they can under the law.

Rape isnt a death penalty crime though.

If it came out that there was yet another kid he killed, then they could roast him for that. How would the fact that a sexual assault occurred somehow negate the deal they made not to give him DP?
 
Rape isnt a death penalty crime though.

If it came out that there was yet another kid he killed, then they could roast him for that. How would the fact that a sexual assault occurred somehow negate the deal they made not to give him DP?

The combination of raping and killing a child, particularly a child under a certain age (ie: under 12 yrs for example) falls under what most states that carry the DP call "special circumstances" that will insure the state seeks the DP, just like killing a LEO.
Since the uncle/killer confessed to the murder only for his plea deal, but did not disclose that he had also raped the child, he withheld a 2nd violent crime against his victim and thus, violated his end of the plea deal.
When a person makes a plea deal, they are swearing that they've told investigators *everything*, and any major lies, like other crimes committed during the initial crime or failing to disclose an accomplice, etc., will result in them losing the previous deal, and facing full charges the state decides to bring. ;)
 
This falls under the "special circumstances" that most states would use to try for the DP.
Since this is "new evidence", ie: the suspect/uncle didn't tell police about during his plea deal negotiations, it should be sufficient cause for the prosecution to acknowledge that he broke his end of the plea deal, and proceed with the highest charges they can under the law.
He didnt take a full plea deal. He's still going to court. The only agreement made was that he'd reveal the body location and they'd take the death penalty off the table. That decision is a done deal and won't effect his actual court case other than they cant go for the DP. He didnt plead guilty to anything and he still has to go before the court/jury...which is why they are tacking on extra charges.
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The combination of raping and killing a child, particularly a child under a certain age (ie: under 12 yrs for example) falls under what most states that carry the DP call "special circumstances" that will insure the state seeks the DP, just like killing a LEO.
Since the uncle/killer confessed to the murder only for his plea deal, but did not disclose that he had also raped the child, he withheld a 2nd violent crime against his victim and thus, violated his end of the plea deal.
When a person makes a plea deal, they are swearing that they've told investigators *everything*, and any major lies, like other crimes committed during the initial crime or failing to disclose an accomplice, etc., will result in them losing the previous deal, and facing full charges the state decides to bring. ;)
That actually wouldnt apply here. The rape is a mute point. They already charged him with the special circumstance charge which is how he got aggravated murder and not first degree etc etc. You cant just keep tacking on things and end up with something more than the highest charge possible lol All factors that can be considered special circumstance fall into the same definition. The biggest of all is that she's under 14. Aggravated murder is Utahs version of a capitol murder charge. Utah only has 2 murder charges and he received the highest possible.

Aggravated murder is intentionally or knowingly causing the death of another person under any of the following circumstances:


  • While the defendant is in jail or a correctional institution
  • The act caused the murder or attempted murder of two or more
  • While knowingly creating a great risk of death to two or more
  • While committing or attempting to commit aggravated robbery, robbery, rape, rape of a child, object rape, object rape of a child, forcible sodomy, sodomy upon a child, forcible sexual abuse, sexual abuse of a child, aggravated sexual abuse of a child, child abuse, aggravated sexual assault, aggravated arson, arson, aggravated burglary, burglary, aggravated kidnapping, kidnapping, or child kidnapping
  • The murder was a result of child abuse, child kidnapping, rape of a child, object rape of a child, sodomy of a child, sexual abuse, or aggravated sexual abuse of a child and the defendant was acting with reckless indifference to human life and a major participant in the underlying crime
  • While abusing or desecrating a dead human body
  • In order to avoid or prevent an arrest or assist in an escape
  • For pecuniary gain
  • Through a hired third party
  • Upon a prior conviction of a particularly violent crime such as aggravated murder, attempted aggravated murder, murder, attempted murder, aggravated assault, mayhem, kidnapping, rape, forcible sodomy, sodomy of a child, aggravated sexual assault, aggravated arson, aggravated burglary, aggravated robbery, felony discharge of a firearm, or any other crime which would constitute one of the above offenses if convicted in Utah
  • In order to prevent a witness from testifying or a person
    from providing evidence
  • In retaliation against a person for acting as a witness or providing evidence or to disrupt/hinder law enforcement or a governmental function
  • The defendant knew/should have known the victim was a public official, a candidate for public office, officer, jailer, prison official, firefighter, judge, court official, or juror and the victim was on duty or the murder was related to the victim's position
  • By means of a destructive device such as a bomb which was planted, hidden, or concealed or a weapon of mass destruction
  • While assuming control of an aircraft, train, or other public conveyance through threat or force with the intent of redirecting or exerting control over the conveyance or obtaining something of value for release of the conveyance, passengers, or crew members
  • By using a poison or any lethal substance
  • The victim was used as a shield or for ransom or held as a hostage
  • The murder was especially heinous, atrocious, cruel, or completed in an exceptionally depraved manner
  • The defendant dismembered, mutilated, or disfigured the victim's body in a manner demonstrating the actor's depravity of mind
  • The victim was under 14 years of age (and not an unborn child)
 
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He didnt take a full plea deal. He's still going to court. The only agreement made was that he'd reveal the body location and they'd take the death penalty off the table. That decision is a done deal and won't effect his actual court case other than they cant go for the DP. He didnt plead guilty to anything and he still has to go before the court/jury...which is why they are tacking on extra charges.

Ah, I see. So his "deal" was only revealing the location of the remains to remove the DP?
Wow!
Lets hope for LWOP in GP then, and that his hands tremble so badly in the showers that he keeps dropping the soap.

ETA: @JackBurton you were correct, and I was wrong on my assumption - my apologies!
 
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Ah, I see. So his "deal" was only revealing the location of the remains to remove the DP?
Wow!
Lets hope for LWOP in GP then, and that his hands tremble so badly in the showers that he keeps dropping the soap.
Yeah. I'm pretty sure that they are going to throw every charge they can at him. Generally speaking rape charges are the first to be dropped but that they are tacking them on has me hopeful they are going to try for multiple sentences. So that he ends up with more than just 1 life sentence.
 
Could he have been taking revenge on his sister out of resentment? In his sick mind, jealousy over her attention could be a motive.

Or even revenge for perceived abandonment.
The only thing that I can't begin to fathom is the rape aspect (just as most people can't fathom as well), but it's known that in cases of extreme anger towards a victim that rape can often occur, regardless of the victim's age or gender.
Whatever the process his mind was in, it is apparent that he must have harbored deep resentment towards the child and her parents to have done such horrific things to an innocent 5yo child, who was not only a relative, but also trusted him as her uncle.
 
A preliminary hearing has been set for the man accused of murdering and sexually abusing his 5-year-old niece, Elizabeth “Lizzy” Shelley.

Alexander William Whipple, 21, appeared in a pink jumpsuit in Logan's 1st District Court Monday, where the hearing was scheduled for Aug. 13.

Whipple is charged with aggravated murder and child kidnapping, first-degree felonies; two counts of obstructing justice, second-degree felonies; and abuse or desecration of a body, a third-degree felony.

After receiving additional evidence from the Utah State Crime Lab, prosecutors filed charges of rape and sodomy, first-degree felonies, on June 5, one day after Lizzy was laid to rest in the Logan City Cemetery.

He has not yet entered pleas to the charges.
 
Or even revenge for perceived abandonment.
The only thing that I can't begin to fathom is the rape aspect (just as most people can't fathom as well), but it's known that in cases of extreme anger towards a victim that rape can often occur, regardless of the victim's age or gender.
Whatever the process his mind was in, it is apparent that he must have harbored deep resentment towards the child and her parents to have done such horrific things to an innocent 5yo child, who was not only a relative, but also trusted him as her uncle.
The mother of this child is also the killers sister. She was also abandoned by the same mother.
Unless he felt resentment that this child had a loving mother regardless that the mother was his sister that was also abandoned.
 
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