No where in our Constitution does it say a license is needed to own a firearm and is subject to inspection or approval of government oversight
Yep, an amendment would prob be needed to fix what has clearly, beyond any reasonable argument, emerged to be a significant and deadly problem in America when it comes to gun ownsership.
Throughout history registration has proceeded confiscation
Sounds like the type of outlandish nonsense that has led to our gun laws being so shitty in the first place. Anytime anyone suggests the slightest increased regulation or oversight, everyone loses their fucking minds and gets unreasonably terrified that some govt stormtrooper is going to rip their guns away for absolutely no good reason.
We have to register our vehicles, yet does anyone live with this constant fear that our cars/trucks/etc. will be torn away from us without due cause????
I just dont get it when it comes to the gun control debate. There is seldom any reasonable or realistic viewpoints offered up against it. It's just baseless fear that ANY give will result in the govt going to the extreme and taking everyones guns away outright. Bizarre.
I mean we even got pushback against fucking bumpstocks for fuck sake. Ridiculous.
And why the fuck should the parents be held responsible?
THe dad left the guns out where a child could access it and therefore created an incredibly dangerous environment/situation. Should be negligent something or other, child endangerment at the very least. Not sure how anyone could argue against this honestly.
I grew up with guns in the house and didn't go shoot up a school. Most everyone i knew had guns in their house, and didn't go shoot up a school
Well whether you like it or not, this does not reflect the current state of all homes where parents own firearms. It's not JUST a school shooting issue either, there are numerous accidental shootings resulting from a child playing with a gun in the home. Not everyone is as responsible as you or your family was, and like sooooo many other things in this country, when society PROVES it can not handle certain dangers, the govt steps in to do it for them thru laws. We have speed limits, we have other traffic laws, you get ticketed if you dont where a seatbelt, we have building codes, we have environmental regulations, i could go on and on and on and on. Why should gun ownership be excluded from that when we see sooooo often the outcome of irresponsible gun ownership and what results from either the lack of increased gun control laws or the inept/lackadaisical enforcement of existing ones?
You're going as far as to say a parent who permits an irresponsible child from having free access to their firearm shouldnt even be held criminally liable in ANY way??? Fucking outrageous. We hold people legally culpable on some level if they let their dog roam free and it attacks somebody. Leave a gun out and free though and nothin??? The fuck?
kids are being pussified, with safe spaces and "feels". Maybe if they'd have taught him to be a man and stand up for himself, and that life isn't about feelings- maybe this wouldn't have happened.
I dont understand where youre coming from with this. The shooter in this most recent incident was not bullied. There are numerous news articles where his classmates and teamates on the football team are interviewed and all of them say they never saw him being bullied, never heard of such things.
It has also been reported that this scumbag was hassling and aggressively pursuing a female(reportedly the first victim shot) for months, and the shooting occurred a day after she finally turned him down.
This had nothing to do with some weakwilled coward bitch of a kid who had no other way to stand up for himself or face the folks who the media(without a shred of evidence to back it up) would have us believe made his life hell in school(i dont think a single school shooting has invovled that actually, that's just idiotic media uproar and dimwitted societal scapegoating). This was a young man who thought a female had no right to turn him down and couldnt handle the perceived slight when that occurred. He had to punish her and anyone else he disliked.
Honestly, if you want to address something in the current social climate when it comes to this particular shooting, you might want to steer it more towards how aggressive young males are. How many are taught not to take no for an answer, to persist and persist and "win a girl over"? How many grow up not valuing females, not respecting them? That seems clearly to be more at the heart of what led to this shitstains actions than anything else, at least at this point. It enraged him that this girl told him no. He was humiliated by it. He had to lash out and punish people for it. Perhaps he was taught to stand up for himself as a man, perhaps these teachings were the problem. This is hick ass trash Texas afterall.
I should add, the recent Parkland shooter also was not a victim of bullying. It's well documented that that scumbag WAS himself the bully, had been causing problems, attacking other people, picking on others, for quite some time. yet another example of this bizarre, miscontstrued, baseless belief that bullying is a common factor, or a factor at all, in these school shootings. Rarely the case.
All common sense rules alright, it also means that when you need it the most the gun is empty and locked up in one place and the bullets are locked up somewhere else. So what's the point of having it to use in your own defense? Are you going to say to the person who is knocking down your door, "hold on a second, gotta collect my gun parts, put it together so I can mount a defense?
A responsible gun owner should be able to safeguard the firearm from children while at the same time keeping it on their person or nearby for defense purposes. THere should never be any way for a child to access the firearm without the parent being present and providing close oversight. If that is happening, the gun owner has failed miserably and should have their gun rights revoked.
Stop the Medication, Social media , and teaching kids that everybody deserves their own rainbow colored unicorn , and you'll get things back on track.
Youre living in a dream world if you think this is all it would take or that these are the causes. Not to mention, there is no way to enforce a change in any of this stuff. If were talking about taking steps to curtail this problem and prevent shootings, the only the that can be realistically targeted is gun conrol. It's not realistic to expect society or the govt to enforce decreased medicating of idiot kids, or kids from accessing facebook, or that teachers should teach sensitivity. Not to mention, as mentioned above, youre leaving out what very likely is the biggest motivating factor for this stains behavior, a lack of respect for females and a belief that as a male, no female has a right to turn him down or tell him no.
BTW, has it been revealed that many, or any, of the school shooters over the years were on pysch drugs of some sort? You seem to be making a lot of assumptions about causes without any clear evidence to support it. Youre already wrong on the bullying front, rarely a motivating factor for these violent acts and given reports thus far, it isnt one here.
I find the phrase "for the greater good" to be terrifying. Nope, you're not taking away my rights over some flimsy bullshit like that!
Most people dont want gun rights taken away. Most people do however see a need to better regulate/control/govern said right however.
Freedom of speech exists, but you cant scream fire in a movie theater for example. Freedom of the press exists, but so do libel laws. You can regulate something, build more laws controlling it, without taking it away outright. There already are many laws on the books when it comes to gun ownership/gun rights even. Clearly, they arent working well enough.
Has anybody ever noticed very few mass shootings happen at court houses or gun ranges?
There's been several shootings at gun ranges in recent years. There was that highly publicized(think it's on video) incident where a mother murder-suicides her teenage son at a gun range. Courthouse shootings arent too uncommon either actually, plenty of news stories about those.
Not sure i get what your intended point was with this comment.