J L, A M Accused Of Child Abuse

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Alf

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The mother and aunt of a little Edmonton girl have been charged with her attempted murder and numerous child-abuse offences involving all five children in their care.

The two sisters appeared briefly by closed-circuit television Monday morning in an Edmonton provincial court. Dressed in bright yellow sweatshirts and sweatpants issued by the Edmonton Remand Centre, the pair showed little expression. One woman yawned when the prosecutor called the case a "serious and complex matter."

A court-ordered publication ban protects the names of the children, so their mothers' names cannot be released. CBC News will identify them by their initials, JL, age 24, and AM, age 23.

JL's daughter remains in hospital in serious but stable condition. Her mother and aunt are accused of committing the following crimes against her between July 1 and Dec. 16, 2017:

  • Attempted murder
  • Abandonment
  • Unlawful confinement
  • Criminal negligence by not providing medical attention
  • Failure to provide the necessaries of life
JL and AM are also accused of abusing JL's younger daughter over the same period of time. They are charged with her aggravated assault, abandonment, unlawful confinement, criminal negligence by not providing medical attention and failure to provide the necessaries of life.
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New details emerge in 'very disturbing' Edmonton child abuse case
2 young sisters found inside furniture boxes had broken bones, sources say

Police were called by a distraught babysitter to this northeast Edmonton townhouse on Dec. 16. CBC News has spoken to sources to piece together new details that led to charges of including attempted murder against two Edmonton mothers in December. (CBC News )
WARNING: Some readers may find details disturbing

Two young sisters had numerous broken bones when they were discovered by a babysitter inside furniture boxes left in a dark, barricaded, basement room at a northeast Edmonton townhouse, CBC sources say.

CBC News has spoken to a number of sources to piece together new details that led to charges of attempted murder, unlawful confinement and abandonment against two Edmonton mothers in December.

Days after the charges were laid, Edmonton police Chief Rod Knecht told CBC News he was aware of the details surrounding the case.

"I think it's one to pay attention to," Knecht said. "I do have the details. And it's very disturbing."

A court-ordered publication ban protects the names of the children, so their mothers' names cannot be released. CBC News is identifying the mothers by their initials: JL, age 24, and AM, 23.

JL has two young daughters, ages 6 and 3. AM has three children: ages 2, 3 and 5.

They all lived in a two-storey townhouse in northeast Edmonton.

The sources gave CBC this account.

On Dec. 16, the two mothers decided they wanted a night out. Their regular babysitter was not available, so they called in someone new.

The mothers told the babysitter that three children were upstairs and two others were downstairs. The babysitter was told not to worry about the downstairs children and to focus on the three young ones upstairs.

After the mothers left, the babysitter checked on the children who were upstairs. She thought they looked malnourished and became alarmed.

At that point, she decided it was important to check on the children downstairs.

But a piece of furniture was blocking the downstairs door. The babysitter pushed it out of the way and entered a dark room.

Shocking discovery
Inside the room were two closed furniture boxes. A three-year-old girl was inside one of the boxes. Her six-year-old sister was inside the other box.

The six-year-old was unconscious. The babysitter called 911.

Both girls were transported by ambulance to hospital. The older girl spent days in intensive care fighting for her life.

The sources told CBC News that the two children had numerous broken bones. Subsequent testing revealed the three-year-old had likely been eating her own hair. It was found in her stomach.
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Sejanus

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Alberta is Canada's Alabama.
I lived out there for a few years and will never go back.
Worst collection of drunken screw ups you can imagine.
These two broads likely enjoy the idea of being in jail.
3 squares
housing
carpet munching
It will be scumbag paradise to them.
 

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On Dec. 16, the two mothers decided they wanted a night out. Their regular babysitter was not available, so they called in someone new.
I'd like to know more about this person. How often did the regular babysitter watch the children? I realize she might not have seen the children for a few months but if she was aware of the children's dire straits she should have called police.
 
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That's what I was thinking, it's become so normal to these shit stains that they call a baby sitter and tell them not to check on the two downstairs, if they hadn't told her that, she might not have even known about them so, I guess, they figured everybody has two little abused, near death, kids in their basement. :arghh::arghh::arghh:
 

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That's what I was thinking, it's become so normal to these shit stains that they call a baby sitter and tell them not to check on the two downstairs, if they hadn't told her that, she might not have even known about them so, I guess, they figured everybody has two little abused, near death, kids in their basement. :arghh::arghh::arghh:
Kudos to that sitter though. Whoever they are, they're a damn good human being.
 

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Alberta is Canada's Alabama.
I lived out there for a few years and will never go back.
Worst collection of drunken screw ups you can imagine.
These two broads likely enjoy the idea of being in jail.
3 squares
housing
carpet muncher
It will be scumbag paradise to them.
Fuck you, Sejanus - we're done! :hilarious::hug:
I moved to Edmonton 26 years ago ..
It's nothing like Toronto but, it sure isn't backwards - naive and small townish, yes ..

I'm shocked by this story for two reasons ..
1- I live in Edmonton and didn't hear about this story ..
2- I work in the north east part of the city .. I bet if I try hard enough, I can find out some shit on these two mothers ..
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I'd like to know more about this person. How often did the regular babysitter watch the children? I realize she might not have seen the children for a few months but if she was aware of the children's dire straits she should have called police.
Yes, I agree - who was this, regular baby sitter and what does she know!
 

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Kudos to the new babysitter for giving a damn and checking on these littles.

Fuck the relatives AND the regular babysitter with splintery two by fours.

How do you get to the point of 'We're killing these kids, the babysitter won't care?'

... and worse, find one that *didn't* care...
 
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https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10155797400270240&id=511475239
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"Moms" pics n fbook in comments
One of them has one single pic of one child out of three but tons of selfies. Other has her two kids up and again much more pics of her fat ass. I'd post their profiles but its not proven in court yet so they may be innocent right? Lol (total joke)
I don't understand why some people have kids?
This babysitter deserves a medal for saving those two babies. ♡
[doublepost=1515861402,1515861361][/doublepost]Ps thank you so much for your post Alf :)
 

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Please, oh pretty please!:cool:
I'm going to visit a girlfriend today who lives on the north side, I'll see what she knows .. :cool:

Without sounding all hoity toity, northeast Edmonton is actually very rough ..
Homes in that quadrant are significantly less expensive than the rest of the city ..
Lots and lots of government housing, low wage earners, casinos, prositutes, gangs and pawn shops ..

Once you get north of 144 Avenue, it's quite respectable and nice, almost like a whole different city ..
[doublepost=1515942390,1515941860][/doublepost]I just looked at the photo from @Muriel Schwenck , they only look to be, maybe, 22-23 years old ..
I definitely wouldn't know them, but I'm willing to bet some of the people, I work with, went to school with them!

I suspect, they're part of Edmonton's sex trade ..
 

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I saw this on FB last night and one of them has already disabled her FB because it was open and she was slammed by 1000s of comments. I guess she must have called someone and told them to disable it and the other set hers to private. Bitch, you ain't getting out of jail any time soon, no need to hang on to it. I mean it is Canada, so they may get a few years since the children didn't die. They look like your typical white girl skanks. One of them even has her kids as her background picture! Of course, "my kids are my life" bullshit social medial fake asses. I guess the one starved and beat the fuck out of her two and the other only neglected and starved hers but as least they didn't get thrown in the basement like trash.

I wonder, what did they expect to happen? Were they going to let them die down there or was this their typical routine when going out because they didn't want the babysitter to see them?

Evil. Pure evil.
 
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A belated tip o' the watch cap to @aranka.




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This story comes from Canada. It appears that CBC may have filters in place that prevent anybody except Canadians from reading these stories; at any rate, it delivered the stories then almost immediately gave me a 404 error. YMMV.

--Al

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These r my grandchildren
I sounded the alarm in aug n I got verbal accused of being a busybody n troublemaker by my mother n Julie's parrnts
[doublepost=1516579361,1516578957][/doublepost]There Dad is my adopted son
His mom is my baby sister
Hes been in my life since birth
My mother took him at 8 moths
Then his brother was born n I raised him he is my bow n arrow
I only wish I would have raised Tre too
Cause he surly wound have had the girls at 16 nJulie being 18
Tre was 12 when he hooked up with this messed up child
 
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Hey pr
A belated tip o' the watch cap to @aranka.




Link 1 -- I think
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This story comes from Canada. It appears that CBC may have filters in place that prevent anybody except Canadians from reading these stories; at any rate, it delivered the stories then almost immediately gave me a 404 error. YMMV.
Hey people
These lile girls r my grandbabies
Only a few members of our family r involved rite now so not to overwhelm the girls
Cause they just want to come home
The oldest asked my mother y no one listened to momma
That broke my soul
Cause I sounded the alarm in august n was told not to be a troublemaker n a busybody by my mother n Julie's parents
I just don't understand
Why people do this
I'm a strong First Nation women
I cry n pray for my women who r missing n murder First Nation women
Now I checked out cry of the innocent n can't believe there r so many abused children
[doublepost=1516582669,1516582382][/doublepost]I feel very alone
I'm a survivor of tragic amuse on so many levels
 

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These r my grandchildren
I sounded the alarm in aug n I got verbal accused of being a busybody n troublemaker by my mother n Julie's parrnts
[doublepost=1516579361,1516578957][/doublepost]There Dad is my adopted son
His mom is my baby sister
Hes been in my life since birth
My mother took him at 8 moths
Then his brother was born n I raised him he is my bow n arrow
I only wish I would have raised Tre too
Cause he surly wound have had the girls at 16 nJulie being 18
Tre was 12 when he hooked up with this messed up child
<3 *hugs* <3

Thank you for finding us Cheryl ..
 
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Thank you for sharing. Do you know if the girls are ok?
Yes there happy n thriving
They just want to come home to us
But the system say no not till everything is a ok
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Agreed ..

We want the absolute worst for the offenders ..
We wish peace, healing and understanding for the victims and survivors ..

Cheryl, please don't feel alone ..

<3
I'm so over whelmed to known people really care
I'm being shut out frm my family cause u sounded the alarm n no one listened
Thanks for ur kindness n love
 

myra manes

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Yes there happy n thriving
They just want to come home to us
But the system say no not till everything is a ok
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I'm so over whelmed to known people really care
I'm being shut out frm my family cause u sounded the alarm n no one listened
Thanks for ur kindness n love
Cheryl, I live in west Edmonton and work in the north east ..
Please feel free to send me a PM if you need to talk or if you'd like to meet up sometime .. <3
 

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Yes there happy n thriving
They just want to come home to us
But the system say no not till everything is a ok
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I'm so over whelmed to known people really care
I'm being shut out frm my family cause u sounded the alarm n no one listened
Thanks for ur kindness n love

You are not alone. We may be weirdos on the interwebs but for the most part we are all here because we really care.
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Cheryl, I live in west Edmonton and work in the north east ..
Please feel free to send me a PM if you need to talk or if you'd like to meet up sometime .. <3

You are.....just lovely. <3