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I think they would've found something on her computer or cell phone if that was the case, Krystal. Maybe they would've found her sooner. He doesn't look like the computer hacker type to be able to hide his location...but stranger things have happened.
 
Just a theory, I'm just trying to make sense in my own head how he got close to her.

I may have my threads all jumbled in my head, so bear with me a second. She disappeared during the day and there wasn't any reports of a ruckus where she was last at, right? Just trying to get it straight in my head here. Which is why I'm thinking that he somehow tricked her, either into thinking he was someone that he wasn't or that he was going to take her to see someone. Something along thosde lines.

Do I hav3e the circumstances right or was there a ruckus where she was last seen which of course then blows my theory all to hell?
 
I think the last time anyone saw her was her boyfriend and he tried to get off the bus to walk with her home.

Only thing I can think of is that he offered her a ride home and she believed him and got into the truck without any thought to safety (if she didn't know him already).
 
I have held off commenting on this until now because there was so little to go on...

Now that we have information that this creepy fuck is being charged with her kidnapping (among other things) I think it's fair to point out that the police and this girls family didn't release the info for many reasons.

First of all, this is a CHILD. She is a minor, and she deserves her privacy even though the entire country was aware of her disappearance. Some people act like they have the right to know the details of what was probably a horrific and sexual crime. I know everyone is curious about what happened and why... I know I am! But again, this is a child who has been traumatized enough. Imagine being kidnapped at 14-15 years old, held (probably in my eyes) against your will, starved, and much much worse... THEN, when you finally survive the whole ordeal and make it home, everyone wants the intimate details. When they don't get them, they demand payment for money spent looking for you or accuse you of somehow bringing it on yourself or being pregnant. Worse even, what if this happened to your kid? I mean, would you want the entire world knowing every painful detail or would you want to protect that child from being victimized even further?

Keep in mind, if she was held against her will, starved (she lost all that weight) and kept alone the only person in her life would have been the man who took her. Psychologically, she would begin, eventually, to see him as her caretaker and companion. These are techniques used in brainwashing, and he might have been grooming her and constantly testing her. Who knows what happened? I just have a hard time thinking it was a her idea and she could have gone home whenever she wanted the way some people suggest. It's just not that simple. At all.

Secondly, the police didn't release all the info because it was an ongoing investigation (I think). What if they tipped the guy off that they were on to him when Abagail returned home and he took off only to do it again to another girl? There were reasons they didn't tell the media everything, we just don't know what those reasons are. I am suspecting we will know why eventually.

I just think this young girl has been through HELL, and it kind of made me sick the way people acted (on many forums and article comment sections) when she made it home safe. I say leave her alone and let her be. It really is a private matter at this point. We, the public at large, don't deserve to know those private details unless Abagail herself wants us to. We should all just be thankful that she made it home safe, because I really didn't think that there would be a happy ending to this story.
 
Just because a 14 year old knows right from wrong doesn't mean that she knows all about the million shades of gray between right and wrong. Even if she went willingly, at her age, she was still tricked.
 
I have held off commenting on this until now because there was so little to go on...

Now that we have information that this creepy fuck is being charged with her kidnapping (among other things) I think it's fair to point out that the police and this girls family didn't release the info for many reasons.

First of all, this is a CHILD. She is a minor, and she deserves her privacy even though the entire country was aware of her disappearance. Some people act like they have the right to know the details of what was probably a horrific and sexual crime. I know everyone is curious about what happened and why... I know I am! But again, this is a child who has been traumatized enough. Imagine being kidnapped at 14-15 years old, held (probably in my eyes) against your will, starved, and much much worse... THEN, when you finally survive the whole ordeal and make it home, everyone wants the intimate details. When they don't get them, they demand payment for money spent looking for you or accuse you of somehow bringing it on yourself or being pregnant. Worse even, what if this happened to your kid? I mean, would you want the entire world knowing every painful detail or would you want to protect that child from being victimized even further?

Keep in mind, if she was held against her will, starved (she lost all that weight) and kept alone the only person in her life would have been the man who took her. Psychologically, she would begin, eventually, to see him as her caretaker and companion. These are techniques used in brainwashing, and he might have been grooming her and constantly testing her. Who knows what happened? I just have a hard time thinking it was a her idea and she could have gone home whenever she wanted the way some people suggest. It's just not that simple. At all.

Secondly, the police didn't release all the info because it was an ongoing investigation (I think). What if they tipped the guy off that they were on to him when Abagail returned home and he took off only to do it again to another girl? There were reasons they didn't tell the media everything, we just don't know what those reasons are. I am suspecting we will know why eventually.

I just think this young girl has been through HELL, and it kind of made me sick the way people acted (on many forums and article comment sections) when she made it home safe. I say leave her alone and let her be. It really is a private matter at this point. We, the public at large, don't deserve to know those private details unless Abagail herself wants us to. We should all just be thankful that she made it home safe, because I really didn't think that there would be a happy ending to this story.
So well said! Thank you. Also, why are people even speculating that she went willingly with that cretin or had some sort of consensual relationship? How about holding tight until we know more?
 
Ok, here's my recap of the arraignment for Nathaniel Kibby:

-Abigail Hernandez was in the courtroom (judge refers to her as "AH")
-Motion by defense to unseal the arrest warrant- Denied
-$1 million cash bail set for Kibby
-Kibby ordered No Contact with Abigail or her family
-Probable cause hearing scheduled for Aug. 12th
 
CONWAY, N.H. — Nathaniel E. Kibby, the 34-year-old man accused of kidnapping Abigail Hernandez nine months ago, was ordered held on $1 million cash bail after his arraignment this afternoon in a New Hampshire courtroom.

Judge Pamela Albee told Kibby he faced a possible maximum sentence of seven years for the felony kidnapping charge. She set numerous conditions for probation, if Kibby makes bail. She also set a probable cause hearing for Aug. 12.

[...]

Earlier today, Kibby’s neighbors in Gorham, N.H., described him as a loner who loves guns and as someone with a strong dislike of government.

[...]

...relatives warned them that Kibby had a reputation for being odd.

“He doesn’t like the government,” she said. “He liked guns.”

She said she was not close with Kibby but knew that he often talked about weapons and his disdain for the government.

[...]

Neighbors described Nathaniel E. Kibby as a loner.

[...]

The St. Germains said the shipping container was added to the property a few years ago. They thought it was to store the motorcycle of Kibby’s then-girlfriend, a woman named Angel. Jeanette said she used to see the couple walking a Doberman pinscher around the neighborhood.

[...]

The Conway Daily Sun today summarized Kibby’s numerous contacts with law enforcement in New Hampshire, which included a 1998 incident when a teenaged KIbby was found guilty of assaulting a 16-year-old girl, who was a high school freshman at the time.

The newspaper reported that Kibby approached the victim while she was walking toward the school bus. He grabbed hold of her jacket near her neck, which prevented her from leaving. The victim broke away and Kibby was eventually convicted of assault, the newspaper reported.

Kibby claimed at trial that the victim had written 50 letters to him during a four-month dating relationship, something the victim testified never happened, the newspaper reported.

On Monday, law enforcement officials announced the arrest of Kibby, but remained quiet on the circumstances of the kidnapping and how the teen came to be reunited with her family. They said Hernandez, 15, helped lead authorities to Kibby.

Officials said Kibby is accused of “knowingly confining” Hernandez on Oct. 9, 2013, “with a purpose to commit an offense against her.” They did not release any further information.

Hernandez’s mother, Zenya, spoke publicly for the first time in remarks aired on the “Today” show Monday morning. She said that her daughter’s appearance was markedly different when she returned home last week.

“She was very thin, very thin. She lost a lot of weight, very pale, she had a look in her eyes that I’ve never ever seen before,” Zenya Hernandez said.


She reasserted her belief that Abigail did not run away and did not know the man who took her.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...ighbors-say/xxTmpK9lpsVN1DfXVgtYoJ/story.html
 
Oh oh, there might be proof she wasn't an evil 14 year old nympho


the link is a video

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http://www.wmur.com/money/neighbors...rest-in-hernandez-kidnapping/27198534#!bpXHCL

Oh, my God.

This poor girl. A shipping container? It makes my heart drop thinking about what was going on here... I am glad there is more info coming out now and people will stop speculating that she somehow brought this on herself.

I think it's pretty brave of her to go to the hearing. If that monster (damn if he doesn't look like a monster) stole me and held me against my will for 9 months I sure as hell wouldn't want to see him again. Good for her. She will survive this... she is proving that already.
 
I just want to say the female victim shaming is fucking ridiculous, it happens too many times on here and is ridiculous. Especially when it comes to underage pretty girls, they get almost attacked by other women posters. Really, people are saying they should pay cost of investigation I say whoever said that is talking out of their nasty ass, i don't believe for one fucking minute that is the mindset of the community.

Rape is so underreported and now I know why, women scream whore and liar at victims and who wants to deal with more trauma?

This girl came back after 9 months and at first I thought she had a baby, but after more came out it was clear she didn't go willing.

Even if she had left with the 34 year old on her own free will she would still be a victim, there is no reason he should have taken her.

I really hope she heals from wherever she was put through. She made it 9 months she can conquer anything, she's a survivor.
 
I just want to say the female victim shaming is fucking ridiculous, it happens too many times on here and is ridiculous. Especially when it comes to underage pretty girls, they get almost attacked by other women posters. Really, people are saying they should pay cost of investigation I say whoever said that is talking out of their nasty ass, i don't believe for one fucking minute that is the mindset of the community.

Rape is so underreported and now I know why, women scream whore and liar at victims and who wants to deal with more trauma?

This girl came back after 9 months and at first I thought she had a baby, but after more came out it was clear she didn't go willing.

Even if she had left with the 34 year old on her own free will she would still be a victim, there is no reason he should have taken her.

I really hope she heals from wherever she was put through. She made it 9 months she can conquer anything, she's a survivor.

It sure seemed like people were awfully quick to point fingers at her, doesn't it? I'm not really talking about the Dreamin' Demon members, but people online in general. You always see a few trolls trying to stir everyone up, but these people were serious and quick to judge this girl with little to no information to go on.

Everything is online now and information is shared so quickly and easily that the entire world has access to her story and what happened to her. She is now recovering and re-living her personal nightmare in front of anyone with internet access. That's difficult enough. Adding judgment and blame on her on top of that by a ton of strangers without facts is adding insult to injury. She doesn't deserve that.
 
Abigail Hernandez case: Police search alleged kidnapper’s New Hampshire mobile home, bunker-like storage space
Abigail Hernandez bravely faced her alleged kidnapper during an unexpected appearance in a New Hampshire courtroom Tuesday while 34-year-old Nathaniel Kibby was ordered held on $1 million bond. Police are meanwhile searching through Kibby’s home for clues about how he allegedly kidnapped the 15-year-old.
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Abigail Hernandez, 15, bravely faced her alleged kidnapper during an unexpected appearance in a New Hampshire courtroom Tuesday. She sat in the front row alongside her mother and sister.​
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...l-hernandez-scary-neighbors-article-1.1883954
 
After the twists and turns the Tori Stafford case took Im shocked at how fast people jump to conclusions
we were ALL wrong on that case and I made a point to apologize to her mom
and made a promise to myself never jump to conclusions again like that
 
She looks so different compared to all the other pics of her. She's definitely lost weight, you can tell in the face. And she just looks tired...
 
Brave Abby Hernandez stares down alleged kidnapper in court after it's revealed she may have been held captive in a shipping container next to his house
  • Nathaniel Kibby, 34, made his first court appearance today after his arrest yesterday for kidnapping 15-year-old Abigail Hernandez
  • Abigail sat in the front row of court today as Kibby was arraigned
  • The teen stunned authorities last week when she suddenly returned home after disappearing last October
  • After his arrest, authorities surrounded a shipping container on Kibby's property in crime scene tape
  • His appearance in court today was just one of many in the past few months while Abigail has been missing
  • In December, he appeared in court on a marijuana possession charge and just last week he was found guilty of criminal trespass
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Behind bars: Kibby is being held on $1million bail as investigators continue to comb his property for evidence
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Hearing: Kibby pictured being escorted to his arraignment at Conway District Court on Tuesday
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ed-held-captive-shipping-container-house.html
 
he just so fucking ugly I hate to think of that attacking a little girl and 14 / 15 is still a little girl to me
christ to attack anyone any age but a young girl shes going to be scarred for life unless they hopefully get her some heavy therapy
 
He looks like the drooling, wonky-eyed hyena off of Lion King. That's why I say if he tricked her 1,000 times over, no way was this voluntary!
 
Hey Krystal, this is what is being said. Thank god people are seeing it. She met him online and they met and she did not want to go home so she stayed there. She is def not telling the whole story here. What's sad is there are real girls out there that need help.
So you're saying she seduced the 34 year old???? She told him what to do???
 
Hey Krystal, this is what is being said. Thank god people are seeing it. She met him online and they met and she did not want to go home so she stayed there. She is def not telling the whole story here. What's sad is there are real girls out there that need help.

We all know *we* don't know the whole story but there is no way anyone can assume she isn't telling police the whole story... I mean, they couldn't have caught the sorry son-of-a-bitch without her.

Why in the world would you assume things like:

*She met him online
*They met in real life
*She didn't want to go home
*She isn't telling the whole story to police
*She doesn't deserve our, or anyone's help

Please explain why you came to those conclusions...

This is a 15 year old who was taken. The man is being charged with kidnapping. How are you blaming her for this?
 
We all know *we* don't know the whole story but there is no way anyone can assume she isn't helping police in any way she can... I mean, they couldn't have caught the sorry son-of-a-bitch without her.

Why in the world would you assume things like:

*She met him online
*They met in real life
*She didn't want to go home
*She isn't telling the whole story to police
*She doesn't deserve our, or anyone's help

Please explain why you came to those conclusions...

This is a 15 year old who was taken. The man is being charged with kidnapping. How are you blaming her for this?

Never said she did not deserve help.... I assume just like everyone else does here with tons of stories. Is'nt this why we are here? To discuss, speculate, etc. ?? Hmmmfffff. As i said, in MY opinion, she wasn't "taken" it is rumored she went with him willingly and someone saw her get in the car. JUST rumored. I wouldn't say i'm really blaming either....something just isn't right. And what really sucks is we will most likely never find out the truth. But as winterfoot said.we don't need to know all the details..Really none of our or anyones biz.
 
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