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I didn' even know what to name the thread since they can't use real names and for the mods, if it's in the wrong category please move it. I put in this one because there are ongoing court cases.
This is a distressing story.

In July last year, locals in a quiet valley in south-western NSW were startled to see three police four-wheel drives, a police bus and an ambulance bouncing up an old stock route towards a remote timbered block, tucked away from the road.

Police and child protection officers left with 12 children under the age of 16 in what is shaping as one of the most serious child abuse cases in Australia.

The day they arrived it looked like the circus had come to town. The children were malnourished, filthy, could barely talk, had appalling hygiene and had been living without electricity and running water.

What emerged is a truly horrific case of child sex abuse and intergenerational incest.


In September this year, the NSW Children's Court decided to permanently remove the children and in a rare move, published its decision because it laid new ground on when children could be permanently removed.

In Victoria, there was another order two months ago to remove children from another branch of the family.

Apprehended violence orders have been taken out to stop the parents approaching the children, who have been placed in homes and in foster care.

Next week one mother will face charges relating to an attempt to remove a child from care.

All names in this article have been changed due to legal requirements not to identify child victims......


''The day they arrived it looked like the circus had come to town,'' says a neighbour. ''Caravans, cars filled with kids.
''Soon after the Colts arrived they came to the attention of police and the education department for failing to send their children to school. The education authorities were unable to find the farm because it was so hidden, but a local policeman visited early on and told the mothers they had to send their children to school.

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''Apart from the noise of the chainsaws, they didn't really worry us,'' a neighbour says. ''I knew there were children living up there, but I never heard any noise of laughing or playing.''

The children's attendance at school was patchy, several of them were rake thin and wore dirty clothes. Soon risk-of-harm reports began coming in to the Department of Family and Community Services from teachers and the local bus driver.

...it took two years before the department acted.... in June 2012, the authorities visited and were met with scenes of harrowing deprivation.

One police officer told colleagues she would never get over what she saw that day.... the family was living without permanent electricity or running water. There were no toilets and they washed in a tub. One caravan housing one group had dirt, cigarette butts and rubbish on the floor. Three children's beds were dirty and unmade, cooking facilities were very dirty and a gas barbecue was used for heating inside the confined space.

The second caravan had dirt on all surfaces and two broken windows.A third mother slept in a tent with her daughters, while the sons slept in another. There were exposed electricity wires, chainsaws without covers, and piles of rubbish, the reports said.

The children were observed to be neglected in significant ways. Most were far behind their peers in terms of educational development and some had no formal schooling at all. Some were developmentally delayed and others showed signs of more permanent intellectual impairment.

Several of the children were unable to speak intelligibly. Their dental health was appalling and several did not know how to use a toothbrush.

Since taking the children away, the authorities have uncovered an even darker picture: of intergenerational incest and child sex abuse involving children as young as five. Away from their families, the children began exhibiting inappropriate sexual behaviour and told carers they had engaged in sexual acts with each other and watched adults having sex on the farm.

The department ordered genetic testing to clarify the status of the children. The tests showed that all but one child of the 12 removed had parents who were related or closely related.

The four mothers, Rhonda, Betty, Martha and Raylene, have disputed the genetic testing, saying it is wrong and offering the names of alternate fathers. All were either dead or unable to be located. Older members of the family have not been tested but the judge in the Children's Court made several references to ''intergenerational incest''.

According to the court record, the Colt grandparents, Tim and June married in New Zealand in 1966 and came first to South Australia during the 1970s with their six children. They moved to Victoria, South Australia again, then Western Australia, before ending up in NSW. There is evidence the abuse began back then and possibly even earlier. Dwayne, one of Betty's sons, told his carers he and his siblings were told never to tell anyone that their father was in fact his grandfather, Tim, because his mother, Betty, would be sent to jail because she had started having sex with him when she was 12.

Betty has had 13 children. The testing of the five children under 16 showed that the 15 year old had closely related parents, possibly a father/daughter, while the other four had related parents.

....... incest has not stopped at one generation. Tammy, Betty's third child, aged 27, has come to the attention of authorities in Victoria after one of her children died at Canberra Hospital of a rare genetic disease, Zellweger syndrome, and she and Betty failed to attend an appointment to discuss the role close consanguinity between parents can play. Her two remaining children were taken into care in February this year. At a hearing to take out an apprehended violence order against her partner, Derek Colt - who had threatened ''to kill her if he couldn't have her'' - she told a social worker Derek was in fact her younger brother and father of her children..... she had been abused within the Colt family from the age of 12 when other family members began having sex with her, including her brothers and cousins. She said the same happened to other girls on the farm and that her mother, Betty encouraged this activity.

When the girls fell pregnant, they were not permitted to see a doctor in case someone discovered what was happening. Sometimes there were miscarriages but Tammy managed to secretly put herself on the pill from the age of 16.

''The mothers have contested their children's removal in the courts and continue to agitate for their return. But the Children's Court judge found they had not come to terms with ''their own traumatic past'' and until they acknowledged the history of incest in the family they would be unable to engage in therapy and be protective parents.
http://m.smh.com.au/nsw/child-abuse-secluded-hills-that-hid-the-darkest-secret-20131206-2ywps.html
 
..... Judge Peter Johnstone ruled that the children, known by pseudonyms to protect their identity, should be permanently removed from the four mothers involved.

He said there was evidence of "intergenerational incest" and that the mothers' refusal to acknowledge their own traumatic past meant they could not protect their children from continuing sexual abuse.
A few weeks ago, two more children were removed from a fifth mother from the same family in Victoria after she admitted to social workers that her brother was the father of her children.
One mother will face court soon, charged with procuring the removal of a child from care and recruiting a child for a crime.
More charges are expected.

The case has raised questions about how child protection authorities and the broader community failed to intervene to protect not just this generation of children but also the previous one.
.....The children were discovered living in a group of about 40 people on a scrubby lot in mid-2012 in circumstances that shocked childcare workers and police.

.......of the 12 children removed, only one has parents who are not related.

There are four mothers involved, three of whom are sisters: Rhonda, 47; Betty, 46; and Martha, 33. The fourth mother, Raylene, 30, is the oldest child of Betty, who has had 13 children.
......... female children as young as eight have told their carers of harrowing sexual abuse often at the hands of their siblings and cousins, who are also underage. Despite reporting it to their mothers, no action was taken.

http://m.smh.com.au/nsw/children-removed-after-generations-of-incest-20131206-2ywrt.html
 
So the mothers, and I'm using that term loosely, say that the fathers of the children are not related to them (the mothers), like that somehow would make this less horrific? Like just because the baby daddies aren't also the uncles or grandfathers makes the fact that they were molesting and abusing these kids acceptable?

Personally, if the adults want to keep it in the family, then go for it, saves the rest of society from being plagued with having them mingling among us because I'm sure they are some lovely human specimens, but leave the damn children out of the nastiness!
 
This is so sad!! I imagine this all started with Tim & June (and most likely in some way with THEIR parents), their daughters were destroyed...their grandchildren...their great grandchildren. The daughters were NOT in a place of decision making skills, that was robbed in development. I wonder if she really WAS as old as 12 when it started...I doubt it.

I hope the kids can grow and learn and move away from a horrible beginning. This story is no different from any other story where a child sexually abuses another - it's just that there are a LOT of them this time.
 
Man, I don't know @TKaz. Those little ones are ruined, and that's going to take a long time and resources to have them just act normal. That story is a mess of human depredation.
 
These kids are lucky to be alive. The littlest ones stand a better chance at a greater future. Sadly for the older ones...the scars will run deeper. Who knows what many of them will face in the future...genetically speaking. Hope the kids all find loving homes.
 
That's probably the only life they've ever known. WHICH DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT ANYWAY YOU LOOK AT IT.

Put that shit in bold before someone cries and says I was defending the abusers.

The mom probably thinks this is normal and everyone else is wrong. I feel sorry for them, they were born into this. It's so many ways fucked up, I don't think it's as simple as saying she's defending the penis or that they're putting a man above their kids. The head sickos from 2 generations away birthed their victims and have been brainwashing them from birth.
 
Man, I don't know @TKaz. Those little ones are ruined, and that's going to take a long time and resources to have them just act normal. That story is a mess of human depredation.

I know. And I agree. But I'm still hopeful. I can't close my mind to a child...I know what statistics say but if we have the knowledge and resources....
Anyway, I'm hopeful.
 
They are gonna need flowcharts........lots and lots and lots of color coded flowcharts......
This made me laugh. Ya I'm bad I know.
This story has just made me so sad. Once you are in a situation like this it becomes normal for you. I feel so bad for this family the mothers too. To have to admit that this has been going on in your family for so long and you don't know how to stop it.
I'm sure being burned at the stake hurts less. I can only hope their parents are roasting in hell.
 
''Apart from the noise of the chainsaws, they didn't really worry us,'' a neighbour says. ''I knew there were children living up there, but I never heard any noise of laughing or playing

That makes me sad.
 
As the mother of a normal, healthy soon to be 5 year old, my heart breaks reading stories like this. On one hand I would love to try and help children like these, on the other, I am scared as hell that if I did something might happen to my child. I just can't justify it until she is older. I wonder how many other parents are in the same boat as me.
 
As the mother of a normal, healthy soon to be 5 year old, my heart breaks reading stories like this. On one hand I would love to try and help children like these, on the other, I am scared as hell that if I did something might happen to my child. I just can't justify it until she is older. I wonder how many other parents are in the same boat as me.
Me!

I already have an autistic child and would love to help other autistic or Down's children but I also have boys ages 8, 7, and 6, my autistic son is 13. I can't risk their well being to feed my need to be needed.
 
That is the most repulsive shit I have ever read EWWWWWWWW just cuz great-great grandma and grandpa were fucked in the head didn't mean the rest of them had to follow suit someone had to have the idea that FUCK THIS AIN'T RIGHT but to all have continued through the generations fucking each other and having deformed kids with each other is straight W. Virginia the hills have eyes type shit. I need to go puke thinking about fathers and daughters/bothers/uncles and cousins having orgies at such a young age with each other and having children OMG! Just put the whole damn clan out to pasteur they are genetically fucked there is no saving them they will go out into society and relive the lifestyle with some dumb bitch/asshole that allows it no point in putting future children at harm. :dead:
 
Wow, that's deep. Soooo wish there were pix of this clan.
I'm really glad there aren't any pictures and that they are changing the names in the stories... if these kids identities ever get out, they will never be able to heal from the abuse and live normal productive lives without having someone constantly asking them about the events, or about what they did in context to the abuse, especially when you are talking about a culture of children abusing the other children, which is part of this.

Whether they were just abused, or were abused and taking part in the abuse of their siblings/cousins, no one would want to be reminded of that past if they were seeking a fresh start away from it. Pictures wouldn't just feed our curiosity, it would also lead to further victimization. These kids deserve the chance to remain anonymous.
 
can it get anymore fucked up!?
The dark, disturbing secrets of a picturesque Australian valley where unwashed children born from generations of incest lived with physical deformities in a 'cult' of 40 adults and youngsters emerged today.

Incapable of intelligible speech, some of the children had oddly-formed features as the result of being born to parents who were themselves related.

Brothers and sisters, uncles and aunts had sex with one another over four generations, raising childen in squalid conditions who themselves grew up to become intimate and have more inbred children.

The children found living in filth in sheds and broken down caravans had numerous disabilities from their inbred births, including a boy with a walking impairment and severe psoriasis, another with hearing and sight problems and yet another boy whose eyes were misaligned.
But at the time even she did not realise that the 'family cult' was a throwback to a pair of great-great grandparents who were a brother and sister. Down through the generations, the family continued to regenerate itself, the children beginning to have sex with one another as soon as they were old enough.


The five family groups comprised sisters Rhonda, 47; Martha, 33; and Betty Colt, 46, who slept every night with her brother, Charlie. There were also two of Betty's daughters who each had children who proved to be from unions of related parents.

Betty's son Bobby, 15, who had severe psoriasis and needed urgent dental work, could not talk in a way that could be understood, he wet and soiled his bed and his learning ability was at kindergarten level.

Martha's sons Albert, 15, and Jed, 14, also had speech problems, no personal hygiene and teeth that were in need of urgent dental work.

Betty's son Billy, 14, was underweight and not growing properly, as well as having hearing and sight problems, spoke unintelligibly, had an intellectual disability and could barely read or count.

Fourteen-year-old Kimberly Colt was underweight and could not clean her teeth, use toilet paper or comb her hair.

When approached by one of the officers who had called at the 'camp' Kimberly threatened to cut off the officer's fingers.

Betty's son Brian, 12, had extensively decayed teeth, had borderline normal hearing and did not understand showering. His eyes were misaligned and he could not read, write or recognise numbers.

On July 18, 2012, police and social workers removed 12 children from the valley - and after careful questioning, harrowing tales emerged.

Kimberly told of sexual contact with her uncle, Dwayne, who was 9 years old, while her aunt, Carmen, 8, watched. Sisters Ruth, 7, and Nadia, 9, had sexual touching with their brothers Albert, 15; Jed, 14; and Karl, 12.

In one sad story, social workers were told how three brothers aged 14 and under tied their sister, 8, and niece, 13, naked to a tree.

The court documents revealed that clinicians and geneticists who took mouth swabs from the children deduced five of them had parents who were themselves 'closely related' to one another while another five had parents who were 'related'.

But the complex tale of intimate relations was found to go back to Betty, Martha and Rhonda's maternal grandparents, who had been brother and sister.

Betty had 13 children, some of whom were probably fathered by her father, Tim, and her brother, Charlie. Along the way one of Betty's daughters, Tammy, 27, died from a genetic disease known as Zellweger syndrome.

Since the discovery of the shocking events in the hidden valley, some children have since been placed with foster families, while others are in treatment programmes for sexualised behaviour and psychological trauma.

They are said to be making progress with schooling and hygiene, but Betty Colt, said the Telegraph, appears to be in denial and her lawyer has disputed the court's findings.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-living-deformed-mute-Australian-valley.html
 
Dear God, I couldn't even read all of it. It was a mixture of utter disgust and confusion. I need a flow chart or something. Christ a 14 year old that couldn't use toilet paper, I just...:banghead:
 
I doubt that any of the children older than about 5 are salvageable. I just watched a documentary on Feral Children and they say that after a certain age that the ability to speak, learn language is just lost, and then when you add in that alot of these children are developmentally stunted because of the incest, they are just never going to learn to be any different than who they are. It's really sad that these kids are truly lost to the world.
 
I'm really glad there aren't any pictures and that they are changing the names in the stories... if these kids identities ever get out, they will never be able to heal from the abuse and live normal productive lives without having someone constantly asking them about the events, or about what they did in context to the abuse, especially when you are talking about a culture of children abusing the other children, which is part of this.

Whether they were just abused, or were abused and taking part in the abuse of their siblings/cousins, no one would want to be reminded of that past if they were seeking a fresh start away from it. Pictures wouldn't just feed our curiosity, it would also lead to further victimization. These kids deserve the chance to remain anonymous.

Alriiiighty then. Not saying it is a good idea to expose them, just that I WOULD LIKE to see their pictures. When it comes to morbid curiosity, yeah I'm guilty, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Anyway, do you really think they are going to remain anonymous? From the way they're described, I doubt they won't be instantly recognizable, then there are the reporters who will want to be the first ones to publish their photos.
 
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Alriiiighty then. Not saying it is a good idea to expose them, just that I WOULD LIKE to see their pictures. When it comes to morbid curiosity, yeah I'm guilty, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Anyway, do you really think they are going to remain anonymous? From the way they're described, I doubt they won't be instantly recognizable, then there are the reporters who will want to be the first ones to publish their photos.

Yeah, and that is exactly the point. You aren't the only one. Doesn't make it less sick or wrong. No one needs to see these CHILDREN. I'm sure you could google "incest deformities" or something similar and see the kinds of birth defects these little kids have if that's what you want to see. But in what way would it satisfy you to see any little kid with fucked up features. How is that satisfying? Or do you find more satisfaction from looking at little kids that have been victims? Or do you want to see little kids who've raped other little kids that they were related to? What part of pictures is it that you think satisfies you. I get wanting to see criminals. These kids aren't criminals. They are the sad result of other sick people. I just can't get behind any additional victimization of children, no matter how "curious" it makes anyone. As for being instantly recognizable, lets hope people look at them and only think fetal alcohol syndrome or other birth defect rather than inbred. Too sick.
 
Ok, Mr/Ms High and Mighty. I am sick and wrong and you are well and right. Frankly, I don't care whether you approve or not. I am curious to see the people involved in this tragedy, period. It's human nature, there's your explanation, and either you've evolved beyond this (congratulations), or perhaps this story strikes too close to home for you?
 
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