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A Buffalo Grove man is accused of sexually assaulting a 12-year-old girl whom he met on a dating website,
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Tal Vardy,
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and the girl exchanged photos of each other on the dating website before meeting on Feb. 19, said Assistant State’s Attorney Anthony Gattuso in bond court Sunday. Vardy is 19 years old, Gattuso said. The man’s private lawyer, who contended her client thought the girl was an adult, said Vardy is 18.

Vardy picked the girl up and drove to a parking lot off of Cicero Avenue and 155th Street in Oak Forest, where they had sex twice, prosecutors said. He also told the girl to turn off her cellphone because they didn’t need her mother bothering them,
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Afterward, Vardy dropped off the girl near her house, prosecutors said. When she got home, she told her mother she had been sexually assaulted and they called police. The girl was taken to a hospital, where a rape kit was performed, prosecutors said.

DNA samples left on the girl matched Vardy’s DNA, according to test results that recently came back, Gattuso said. Vardy was arrested by Midlothian police and charged with predatory criminal sexual assault of a victim younger than 13.

A judge set bail at $150,000 for Vardy on Sunday. Prosecutors did not name the dating website.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...et-on-dating-website-20131027,0,1610966.story

no mug yet he was just in court this afternoon
 
Okay, I can buy in some cases that a 16 year-old might be mistaken for being 18, but a 12 year-old? No fucking way buddy.

Maybe it's time that parents have to demonstrate that they've taken some measure to ensure their kid's safety online or risk being fined or charged with a crime. It's seems blatantly negligent to me to allow your kids unfettered access to to the internet without some element of supervision.
 
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Im also wondering what fucking 19yo has already given up on finding someone the usual way and joins a dating website??
Ive always pictured older people looking for whatever
 
So while I know some 12 yr olds look like they're 18,19 and they can not consent, did he really rape her? Did she really say she was 18 and on a fucken dating website at 12??

FFS what time was this? I am not blaming the victim but when the fuck are parents going to take responsibility for their kids?? At 12 my kid didn't even go to the movies with a friend, I dropped him off and picked him up.
 
Okay, I can buy in some cases that a 16 year-old might be mistaken for being 18, but a 12 year-old? No fucking way buddy.
BB my stepson's sister is 13 and just had a baby. She looked like she was 18 at 11 yrs old. If you saw a pic of this girl she looked way older, and now looks 20.
 
BB my stepson's sister is 13 and just had a baby. She looked like she was 18 at 11 yrs old. If you saw a pic of this girl she looked way older, and now looks 20.
They may look older all slutted-up and everything, but certainly when you talk to them you have to be able to discern that they are quite young. However, I'm middle aged so it's been awhile since I've been around tween girls, so maybe I just don't know anymore.
 
They may look older all slutted-up and everything, but certainly when you talk to them you have to be able to discern that they are quite young. However, I'm middle aged so it's been awhile since I've been around tween girls, so maybe I just don't know anymore.

BB I almost fell of my chair when I read conversations between my stepson and his gf. This girl told him (14) that she missed him &$@ her in the a$$ ,and wanted him to pull her hair and and spank her! :eek: This was at 14!! That was a tame conversation compared to others they had. So glad I don't have girls. She even went as far as stealing an ultrasound with baby twins and said it was hers.

I know I am giving an extreme example and nothing excuses his stupidity, that he will be in jail for a few years and labeled as a sex offender, for a piece of ass that he. Sure maybe the voice or the baby-face can give them away but not all.

disclaimer, i read my stepson's texts cause it was our phone paid by us and he was fucking up last year. His mom agreed for me to look at his texts.
 
BB I almost fell of my chair when I read conversations between my stepson and his gf. This girl told him (14) that she missed him &$@ her in the a$$ ,and wanted him to pull her hair and and spank her! :eek: This was at 14!! That was a tame conversation compared to others they had. So glad I don't have girls. She even went as far as stealing an ultrasound with baby twins and said it was hers.

I know I am giving an extreme example and nothing excuses his stupidity, that he will be in jail for a few years and labeled as a sex offender, for a piece of ass that he. Sure maybe the voice or the baby-face can give them away but not all.

disclaimer, i read my stepson's texts cause it was our phone paid by us and he was fucking up last year. His mom agreed for me to look at his texts.
This girl told him (14) that she missed him &$@ her in the a$$ ,and wanted him to pull her hair and and spank her!

disclaimer, i read my stepson's texts cause it was our phone paid by us and he was fucking up last year. His mom agreed for me to look at his texts.
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Just being curious. How do you start the conversation when you confront him about this?:shame::shame:

I'd also like to say that I'm so happy to not be a kid these days. When you're banging chick's asses at 14, there really isn't much left to aspire to:cigar:
 
Okay, I can buy in some cases that a 16 year-old might be mistaken for being 18, but a 12 year-old? No fucking way buddy.

Maybe it's time that parents have to demonstrate that they've taken some measure to ensure their kid's safety online or risk being fined or charged with a crime. It's seems blatantly negligent to me to allow your kids unfettered access to to the internet without some element of supervision.

Okay, not to do with blame of any kind, just the age issue. I developed way early. I was able to get babysitting jobs at 11 & 12 because parents thought i was at least 17 or 18 easy. It really depends on how a girl behaves.. you can come off as more mature.. especially when you've been caretaker at home and have that air of an older person about you.. .and it doesn't hurt to already be built like a woman. When I was in 6th grade, I used to patrol (lunch patrol) and we had a 4th grade class.. and there was one little girl who asked if she could touch my legs because they were just like her mothers. Not that it's any excuse to not find out how old someone is.. I'm just saying, a young girl can pass as a woman.
 
There are many WTF's with this story. As a mother myself I want to know what business does a 12 year old have registering to a online dating site and her mom not knowing this????

Also, I am sure this douche canoe figured out that he was with a kid when he asked to have her cell turned off so mom wouldn't bother them. There's something missing in this story.
 
OMFG! Seriously? I didn't even THINK about that kind of stuff til I was almost 40! I still blush when I think about it and there are 14 year olds out there begging for it? I am way too innocent sometimes... :shy:

Some of the things she described I won't do lmao
 
OMFG! Seriously? I didn't even THINK about that kind of stuff til I was almost 40! I still blush when I think about it and there are 14 year olds out there begging for it? I am way too innocent sometimes... :shy:
:shifty: Mmm hmm.... I think you're a liar! Lmao j/k! <3 ya girlie!
 
True,
I can honestly say I have a 2 NIECES (13-15) and 1 COUSIN (14) and they ALL look like they are 20+.
They ALL have C-D cup sizes and are all above size 8 in pants.. they stand next to me and I look like the 13 year old. It's always hard to determine who is lying in situations such as these.
Why would she be on a dating site at the age of 12 or even ALLOWED to leave the house? at 12 I wasn't even allowed to go to the mall by myself. smh...
plus the immature/mature deal. I know 12 year olds that are more mature than they're 40 year old moms
 
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So, she met him on a dating site. (Where I'm sure one is supposed to be 18+ to join) She met up with him and and sex twice. She went home and told her mom she'd been sexually assaulted.
It sounds like she wants some sort of attention, mom obviously hasn't been paying much attention to her. How can a girl join a dating site at 12 and mom not notice.

I'm sorry, but it really bothers me that people get into trouble because they don't know the real age of a person. If you were in a bar, would you card every person who hit on you to make sure they were of age? Probably not. It's a bar.

If he didn't know, then it would kind of be entrapment. (Some people can be real immature at 18, he could have really believed she was older)
 
The ONLY reason someone would believe that a 12 year old is really 18 is because they're looking to fuck 'em, and just don't want to know the truth.

Not true. There were a bunch of people who thought my daughter was a senior in high school when she was in 6th grade.
 
Were they looking to fuck her?
Honestly, maybe I'm just smarter than every other male on the planet. When I was a teenager/young adult, I knew who was and wasn't 18 when I was banging them, and as a guy in his 40's, A 12 year old would never convince me that she was 18.
 
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Took two of my girls to NYC on vacation. Older one was 25 at the time, her younger immature sister only 15. When we'd go out to eat I'd have youngest order a glass of wine for me the older one would order a drink for herself -- they'd card her (the 25 yo) but not my 15 yo.
 
Were they looking to fuck her?
No. But as I am saying, looks can be misleading. And as this girl was on a dating site and possibly looked older than she is, why would anyone question it. Who would think a 12 year old would join a dating site.
 
Okay, I can buy in some cases that a 16 year-old might be mistaken for being 18, but a 12 year-old? No fucking way buddy.

Maybe it's time that parents have to demonstrate that they've taken some measure to ensure their kid's safety online or risk being fined or charged with a crime. It's seems blatantly negligent to me to allow your kids unfettered access to to the internet without some element of supervision.
I could easily walk into any store and buy cigs when I was 12. I went to Vegas with my mom and was repeatedly asked if I was there for my 18th birthday and offered drinks by the casino waitresses. Funny thing is, now that I'm 37 people think I'm my daughters sister.
 
Honestly, maybe I'm just smarter than every other male on the planet. When I was a teenager/young adult, I knew who was and wasn't 18 when I was banging them, and as a guy in his 40's, A 12 year old would never convince me that she was 18.

There's a difference between being smart and being naive.
 
Honestly, maybe I'm just smarter than every other male on the planet. When I was a teenager/young adult, I knew who was and wasn't 18 when I was banging them, and as a guy in his 40's, A 12 year old would never convince me that she was 18.
agree 100%--looks are one thing Maybe they would look 18 but as soon as a conversation starts I think it become obvious
 
Honestly, maybe I'm just smarter than every other male on the planet. When I was a teenager/young adult, I knew who wasn't 18 when I was banging them, and as a guy in his 40's, A 12 year old would never convince me that she was 18.
No. But as I am saying, looks can be misleading. And as this girl was on a dating site and possibly looked older than she is, why would anyone question it. Who would think a 12 year old would join a dating site.
I'm not tyring to by argumentative, just want to clarify my reasoning here.
If it was a "straight up hook up" and all they did was meet and fuck, one might argue that the kid in this case didn't know. However, once a conversation was struck, and she said "I love Justin Beiber," or some other mention of age-appropriate pop-culture, a 19 year old should have known something was up. I think in this case, that was obvious, but in general, I feel that any DEVELOPMENTALLY APPROPRIATE young adult, should be clued-in, despite the physical appearance.

And who would think anyone would lie to them on the Internet! LOL!
 
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There's a difference between being smart and being naive.
I'm not sure of the sexes of some of the members who have commented here, but it seems pretty universal that the females believe that it's not unusual that a 12 year-old pass as 18. As a man, I've been checking-out females since I was 11 years old, there are often subtle clues as to physical development. Not often do I see such a young girl with both breasts and hips fully developed. Sometimes in large crowds of teenage girls, (such as the local fairs) I may see one who I assume is 16-17, based on their face and large breasts, but when you see the lower-half, you can see that they aren't fully developed. I could only imagine that a conversation about Justin Beiber and the mall would confirm my suspicion. I think that it's naive to think that a 18-20 year-old boy doesn't know when he's having sex with a little girl, despite her physical appearance. I wouldn't give a guy a pass unless he had some type of significant and well-documented developmental delay.
 
I'm male and when I was 17 I Met a girl off MySpace who told me she was 18. We cut school, Met up and hung out with all of my pals ( in total, 8 of us all aged 17-19). Not one of us second guessed the girls age, she was sexy, smart and very mature. The girl was very very loose and only a day after me and the gang finished having our (consensual) fun, I finally discovered the girls age was really 12. (Found out because she left her AOL instant messenger signed in my computer and I did a little amateur sleuthing )

I assure you sir, times have changed. Maybe it's something in the water or whatever but the fact is there are some (NOT MANY) but some preteens, young teens who can pass for at least 18. You have almost a dozen posters here cosigning this sentiment. Don't be stubborn and just understand that it's not the 60's anymore where 12 year olds ALWAYS look their age.
I'm not trying to be stubborn, when I was young inthe early eighties, I banged more than my share of underage girls. I knew they weren't quite legal, I didn't need to fool myself.

I'm not trying to deny or discount the experiences of other members, I'm just saying that there is no way that a 12 year old is gonna convince me to fuck her, or give her the keys to my car.
 
A gangbang? :nailbiting: On a 12 year old? OMG
These girls were around, even way, way, way back in the early eightis. I remember one girl who used to kneel and blow about eight of us. We were probably about 14 then, and there were 3 or 4 of tbem arond the neighborhood. My friend ended up marrying one of them!
 
These girls were around, even way, way, way back in the early eightis. I remember one girl who used to kneel and blow about eight of us. We were probably about 14 then, and there were 3 or 4 of tbem arond the neighborhood. My friend ended up marrying one of them!
BB is she a typical housewife now. :hilarious:
 
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